Thread: NEO Nyzul 2.0

If SE would consider changing the timer in the starting room and reprogramming the lamps to get rid of that horrible lag after u successfully complete them that would be fantastic. Otherwise, keep up the good work.

Also, to all you people bitching, it seems like many of you have only done it a few times or do shout groups. It just sounds that way by the knowledge level most of you have about the event. You really need to have a static and do the event every week together for at least a month before u develop the amount of coordination it takes to efficiently navigate nyzul uncharted. Also, the amount of luck required with jumps is vital.

More skill=Less luck, but luck is luck, and luck is bad.

Originally Posted by Demon6324236

More skill=Less luck, but luck is luck, and luck is bad.

Well now, I think you'll want to rephrase that. Are you saying you luck can't play a factor in anything? After all, everything in the game is luck.

Originally Posted by detlef

Well now, I think you'll want to rephrase that. Are you saying you luck can't play a factor in anything? After all, everything in the game is luck.

What I mean is simply luck in events like this with the entire event based on luck it is bad. VW is highly luck reliant in the fact every drop can be as random as giving you a 1% drop on your 1st kill or you go 0/1000 and quit. NNI is not as bad in its luck at drops however it is similar in the fact luck plays a large part. As I have said before, floor, contents of floors, objective of floor, layout of floor, pathos, these are all things random when you move around NNI, and they can all hurt you if they are unlucky.

But it's not entirely luck. If you go with terrible players, you won't win no matter how lucky you get.

The same can be said of killing VWNMs, if you have a VW party and don't suck you can kill the NMs with ease, luck can screw you no matter your skill however with bad procs. Fight Kalasutrax where 5/7 NQ procs are jobs you don't have. 2/3 HQs are procs you don't have. And EV is Ice WHM. You can be skilled, but chances are you are going to die no matter what you do. There is a ratio between luck and skill, with most groups it seems to be 70%Luck/30%Skill how they talk, by my experience, its about 50%/50%. You sound as though it is 20%/80%, very different from everyone here. More skill you have less luck you need, luck will always matter in a way though because there are completely horrid floors, and terrible, terrible jumps.

Luckily you can /fume your EV ice whm away now eh? Also, I don't see how it's relevant to Nyzul.

Blame bad floors all you want. They suck, after all. Hate on gears, hate on pathos. We all hate them. But don't blame bad jumps. Bad jumps even out. One day you get terrible jumps. The next day you get incredible jumps. Have you done the event for any extended period of time? You should judge your run based on how many floors you cleared, not whether you hit 100. The more floors you clear, the more successful you'll be over time.

Luck is still a big factor of course. But one day, the gods will smile on you and it will all come together. You just have to keep at it so you can be there to answer the call when they do.

Originally Posted by detlef

Luckily you can /fume your EV ice whm away now eh? Also, I don't see how it's relevant to Nyzul.

Blame bad floors all you want. They suck, after all. Hate on gears, hate on pathos. We all hate them. But don't blame bad jumps. Bad jumps even out. One day you get terrible jumps. The next day you get incredible jumps. Have you done the event for any extended period of time? You should judge your run based on how many floors you cleared, not whether you hit 100. The more floors you clear, the more successful you'll be over time.

Luck is still a big factor of course. But one day, the gods will smile on you and it will all come together. You just have to keep at it so you can be there to answer the call when they do.

I was using the VW thing as an example of something else where you can be skilled, but luck can still kill you and leave you with nothing.

I know jumps even out somewhat, point is there are many things luck based in it, not just 1 or 2 but the entire thing from start to finish is influenced by luck at every turn. In my runs I have done of NNI best I have done is floor 97 with my old static, my new static only has done 2 runs so far only person with previous experience being me and we hit 67 on the 2nd go which I think is fairly good seeing as there was 1 person in the group with an Emp and great gear, everyone else being in +1/2 with AH or Abyssea weapons.

I don't plan on giving up the event because if I did would just mean I wasted my time up till then, same thing if I gave up with anything else, stop half way on something and you only wasted your time getting that far, make it to the end and at least you completed it.

What setup are you using?