Thread: NEO Nyzul 2.0

Nyzul is not best in slot gear, it's situationnal gear.

Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

Which should lead to the obvious conclusion: This gear won't be best in slot for very long and spending all this time on it because of lame ass luck factor is a waste of time.

I'll reiterate my previous prediction: When all is said and done, this gear will be about as good as the old nyzul gear was at 75. The hassle and luck crap that goes into getting it is too much.

The gear will only stay best in slot for a very short time and as such should only take a very short time to get.

If you think of it lets say you average at 1 piece a week on a 30min a day event. That is 3 hours and 30 mins a week to get 7+ gear (including drops + the KI for 1 peice for each person) Thats 1 peice of very good gear every 30 mins and is alot quicker and better then aot of other peices of gear.

If thats also your attitude why bother with any gear cause chances are that most gear will be outdone by something. All gear takes effort to get also so why even bother playing this game if you think spending 30mins a day for currently the best gear for different situations then really what else you going to do in that time? I've seen people take alot longer for 1 peice of emp+2 gear.

Originally Posted by Aisu

If you think of it lets say you average at 1 piece a week on a 30min a day event. That is 3 hours and 30 mins a week to get 7+ gear (including drops + the KI for 1 peice for each person) Thats 1 peice of very good gear every 30 mins and is alot quicker and better then aot of other peices of gear.

If thats also your attitude why bother with any gear cause chances are that most gear will be outdone by something. All gear takes effort to get also so why even bother playing this game if you think spending 30mins a day for currently the best gear for different situations then really what else you going to do in that time? I've seen people take alot longer for 1 peice of emp+2 gear.

This would make sense if a significant number of (non cheating) players could get 1 piece every week, but the majority of players are not getting anywhere near that. The current event will take most players a long time to finish even 1 set. The sets will be overshadowed by other gear before most people finish getting it.

Any event where the rewards are outclassed before you even get them is a waste. That's why events die. It's also why it's dumb to make this event this hard (read luck based).

If the gear was OMFG good to the point where everyone knew that it wasn't going to be replaced in 6 weeks, then it might make sense to spend massive time getting it. But that is not the case at all. If you can cheat and get a full set of gear in a couple of weeks, then this event is worth doing. Otherwise, you are better off working on something that will last. Hence the distaste for the event.

Why spend hard earned money and time pulling a slot machine that dispenses coupons that expire before you can use them?

Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

This would make sense if a significant number of (non cheating) players could get 1 piece every week, but the majority of players are not getting anywhere near that. The current event will take most players a long time to finish even 1 set. The sets will be overshadowed by other gear before most people finish getting it.

Any event where the rewards are outclassed before you even get them is a waste. That's why events die. It's also why it's dumb to make this event this hard (read luck based).

If the gear was OMFG good to the point where everyone knew that it wasn't going to be replaced in 6 weeks, then it might make sense to spend massive time getting it. But that is not the case at all. If you can cheat and get a full set of gear in a couple of weeks, then this event is worth doing. Otherwise, you are better off working on something that will last. Hence the distaste for the event.

Why spend hard earned money and time pulling a slot machine that dispenses coupons that expire before you can use them?

for starters its not about getting the full set, of course its nice to have but each piece of gear is good in its own way and i find it hard to beleive how you can easily outclass a phorcys Korazin for any STR based Weapon skill especially. 16STR 50atk and 7% WS dmg, I could see it if our level was to rise further like alot of gear we got from abyssea was outclassed everytime the level cap increase. We are lvl 99 its not getting higher so i find it very hard to beleive anything you say.

It is very well possible to do this without cheating you just have to know what your doing and be well geared to begin with then you just have to keep trying. SE put other gear for those that are not able to do that at other floor levels they did not want the 100 peices to be easy to obtain since it is such amazing situational gear. Like they said if they made it easier they would have to nerf the gear. Just because some people can't do this event they believe everyone who is succeeding is cheating.

Originally Posted by Demon6324236

This is the difficult part, there is truly no way to fix this, without breaking it in a different way, to fix 1, is to break the other, and this is the real problem.

Agreed. I simply do not subscribe to the idea that "if it's broke no matter what, don't fix it" philosophy of Dev+Hax.

Considering not much isn't broken right now, I say to hell with it. They could fix RDM while they're at it, giving them AOE Haste/Refresh/SS/Blink/Bar, and AOE debuffs. Take Embrava down a notch (or two...) and allow any mob that cons as "Impossible to gauge" to be staggered.

Will that fix everything? No.
Will it un-stupify some of what they've done? Well, not like it can get any worse... <___<

What I hope for is more "Dynamis-like" events (multi-party, multi-mob) so that AOE debuffs/buffs become useful, as well as a new dynamic strategy that really hasn't been used in FFXI. You could say beseiged was like this... but really the NPCs carried players, and the monsters were unrealistically strong, and that was a zone-borking event. I could talk at-end for this idea, but I'll save that for another time

Nevertheless, to hell with pissing off the community, lol! They gimped RNG way-back-when for being so overpowered a RNG party could kill anything, and that had people up in arms for months. Now, looking back, everyone had to admit that the nerf was necessary, but that didn't keep from pissing every RNG off....

Sometimes the cure isn't painless, but when the cancer of mediocrity and "one-job-onry" starts to spread, you gotta bring the chemo.

That's to say, let the gear still have its use, but not as potent a use. Let the job still have a use, but not to be a pocket Embrava. Let's not confuse the job with it's spell... RDM was necessary until other forms of killga came about. And with the lack of need for Refresh/Haste cycling, there was nothing left for the job. SCH is a borked job which offers nothing but chaos to FFXI, and without Embrava, what would it be but a slot-taker for RDM, WHM or BLM? Yeah, that's balanced... <_<