Rune Fencer 2nd new job

[Demon6324236]

Enfeebling changes are going to be aimed towards making sure GEO is relevant. RDM has nothing to do with it, and I hope that you're not still playing FFXI under the hope that RDM will somehow be fixed.

If you are, just call it dead now and quit; save yourself the inevitable disappointment that is post-2006 RDM.

I honestly have no idea what I want at this point, maybe I expect SE to at least try to fix the game. I ask them to try, show me effort, show me they care, maybe Ill be happy with that, or with them actually listening to a RDM who plays the job and knows what hes doing rather than thinking its just magic only or some shit. I know its not going to happen, but I rather see SE actually try.

Maybe if I bitch enough, or I raze hell, I might make a dent. So far as I have seen I make alot of people on Phoenix look at my RDM and say "damn, that guy kicks ass, I didn't know RDM could do that!" I thought I might be able to come to the forums and impact how people see the worthless job that it is. Perhaps I could help in some way the shape it takes in the future, to better this job and make it worth something again. I was wrong though, your right, perhaps I should quit this game, SE has screwed things up so bad, and fixed so little, that shows no signs of changing till this comes out, and then look at it, and see how the game is fucked up at that time.

[saevel]

Did you actually watch the stream? Like, all of it? Tanaka wasn't even present at the dev panels, and didn't speak a word of the new expansion.

If you saw the things they had him do during Vanafest, like grabbing numbers for Mog Bonanza and showcasing food during a filler spot and other unsubstantial things, it REALLY supported the idea that he's in that "we're not gonna fire you but your job will no longer have meaning" zone as punishment for FFXIV.

I apologize as I haven't been watching the stream, only the tweets / posted info. I watched some of the music though.

If it is as you say, Tanaka being completely sidelined, then there is hope that things will get fixed sooner rather then later. Still as long as he has a fancy title on his desk they can not undo anything that has his name on it, it would be to insulting to the company itself. They can not make any announcements of changes from things he did until after his leaves, and then they have to do it in a somewhat circumspect way.

[Demon6324236]

Did you actually watch the stream? Like, all of it? Tanaka wasn't even present at the dev panels, and didn't speak a word of the new expansion.

If you saw the things they had him do during Vanafest, like grabbing numbers for Mog Bonanza and showcasing food during a filler spot and other unsubstantial things, it REALLY supported the idea that he's in that "we're not gonna fire you but your job will no longer have meaning" zone as punishment for FFXIV.

It matters nothing, if hes in effecting it or not, they are still fucking up, and that in general says it all. Expansion=Good. Farming & raising monsters on your island=Bad. New Magic tank that will never replace Aegis PLD but tries to make up for it by killing off the rest of RDM=Bad. New AoE buffer using the idea of Sphere effects, so that the effects, or the buffer, can be killed by crazy AoE damage while keeping players buffed=Bad. Monster PvP=Bad. Everything else I saw about this expansion was either to vague for me to know what to expect, or was pointless enough I didn't think it important enough to commit to memory.

Yesterday I was happy, I admit, today, I am pissed, because I have been told as a RDM that they still arnt doing shit to help me out of being in the spot I'm in, and gave me no reason to think I am, rather, they keep digging my grave deeper and deeper in the ground.

[Llana_Virren]

It matters nothing, if hes in effecting it or not, they are still fucking up, and that in general says it all. Expansion=Good. Farming & raising monsters on your island=Bad. New Magic tank that will never replace Aegis PLD but tries to make up for it by killing off the rest of RDM=Bad. New AoE buffer using the idea of Sphere effects, so that the effects, or the buffer, can be killed by crazy AoE damage while keeping players buffed=Bad. Monster PvP=Bad. Everything else I saw about this expansion was either to vague for me to know what to expect, or was pointless enough I didn't think it important enough to commit to memory.

Yesterday I was happy, I admit, today, I am pissed, because I have been told as a RDM that they still arnt doing shit to help me out of being in the spot I'm in, and gave me no reason to think I am, rather, they keep digging my grave deeper and deeper in the ground.

Let me just take a moment to remind you (and others) that this Expansion is not due for another year. Many details were left out because they were not yet ironed out. So, that said, the only thing for certain is the 2 new jobs, and I will expect sometime within the next few months, for SE to announce they are deleting RDM as a job option.

Other than that, don't get bent out of shape yet. Don't even bother to theorycraft yet. We are getting ahead of ourselves here.

[Demon6324236]

I simply state content that was shown before me and how I see it. RDM might as well be deleted anyways, make Rune RDM2.0 and flip off everyone who actually likes RDM once again, seems to be their goal anyways.

[Llana_Virren]

I simply state content that was shown before me and how I see it. RDM might as well be deleted anyways, make Rune RDM2.0 and flip off everyone who actually likes RDM once again, seems to be their goal anyways.

SCH was RDM v2
GEO will be RDM v2.1
RNK will be RDM v2.1.1melee

[Demon6324236]

SCH was RDM v2
GEO will be RDM v2.1
RNK will be RDM v2.1.1melee

RDM's style has been using magic & melee in combo to create a destructive force about as strong as those lv0 bunnys near Windy.

SCH was as I have said before, WHM+BLM, excluding the WAR part that is in RDM. SCH honestly has little in terms of ideal in relation to GEO at all, only AoE buffs, which is a small detail of SCH. SCH's ideal is the use of strats to extend magical capabilitys while also focusing on "over-time" type spells & abilitys, shown by Regen/Embrava, Helix/Kaustra, and Stratagems/Tabula Rasa.

Geo is more a Sphere effects job, just another way to implement their "new" idea of sphere effects in a different way, a field which if you stand in, you get stronger.

Everything melee based in RDM is going into Rune, being enhancing, enspells, and seemingly survivability. As such it is more a 2.0 job than SCH or GEO have been/will be.

[Llana_Virren]

RDM's style has been using magic & melee in combo to create a destructive force about as strong as those lv0 bunnys near Windy.

SCH was as I have said before, WHM+BLM, excluding the WAR part that is in RDM. SCH honestly has little in terms of ideal in relation to GEO at all, only AoE buffs, which is a small detail of SCH. SCH's ideal is the use of strats to extend magical capabilitys while also focusing on "over-time" type spells & abilitys, shown by Regen/Embrava, Helix/Kaustra, and Stratagems/Tabula Rasa.

Geo is more a Sphere effects job, just another way to implement their "new" idea of sphere effects in a different way, a field which if you stand in, you get stronger.

Everything melee based in RDM is going into Rune, being enhancing, enspells, and seemingly survivability. As such it is more a 2.0 job than SCH or GEO have been/will be.

What you're missing is that enhancing and enfeebling abilities are equal to RDM as melee was in terms of what made it unique. SCH stripped the idea of unmatched Enhancing Magic from RDM. GEO will take the A+ Enfeebling Magic skill out of the equation. The only thing that RUN/RNK/RNF actually takes away from RDM is the melee.

Thus, all 3 of these jobs were in one way or another, the "next incarnation" of RDM.

[Scribble]

Yesterday I was happy, I admit, today, I am pissed, because I have been told as a RDM that they still arnt doing shit to help me out of being in the spot I'm in, and gave me no reason to think I am, rather, they keep digging my grave deeper and deeper in the ground.

SE has said they're working on enfeebles, which is supposed to be the main role for RDM anyway. For the love of Altana, stop whining like a baby. If you're gonna quit then quit, but at least quit bitching. Could quench the thirst of a thousand trolls with all these tears.

[Llana_Virren]

SE has said they're working on enfeebles, which is supposed to be the main role for RDM anyway.

They're not going to do anything to enfeebles until after GEO gets more thoroughly tested. Thus, they are working on enfeebles for the benefit of GEO.

RDM will get nothing.