Rune Fencer 2nd new job

[Demon6324236]

PLD is focused on blocking physical damage while RNF is focused on reducing magic damage.

Unless they give "RNF" Aegis or something very similar it will matter nothing, PLD already has the single most amazing piece of magic blocking gear in the game, and unless they nerf it or they give the new magic tank something very much the same PLD will still be the goto guy for both of them seeing as Aegis also works very well for melee falling short only to the other super shield in the game.

[saevel]

Doesn't matter, not one bit

RKN (RUN) could have -100% MDT and complete Magic Immunity, and they still wouldn't be tanking nor effective.

Hate is now about how much damage you can do and how often your hitting once your at hate cap. Also monsters don't really kill you with powerful single target magic damage, they kill you with powerful aoe moves. So you can be the shining wall of invincibility, won't matter as everyone else around you will die.

[Milva]

I'm speculating Runic Knight as the name too. Geomancer has been requested so often I'm saying SE is going to take another frequently requested ability and make a job that can finally use a Celes-esque Runic JA. And we'll have another entry into the hilariously long list of abilities appropriate for RDM that SE used to create a whole new job.

Runic Fencer - everything RDM-tanking and RDM-meele could have been.
At least now we know why for the past 3 years they were taking EVERYTHING from RDM. Great way to kill off a flourishing job, SE...

[Demon6324236]

Doesn't matter, not one bit

RKN (RUN) could have -100% MDT and complete Magic Immunity, and they still wouldn't be tanking nor effective.

Hate is now about how much damage you can do and how often your hitting once your at hate cap. Also monsters don't really kill you with powerful single target magic damage, they kill you with powerful aoe moves. So you can be the shining wall of invincibility, won't matter as everyone else around you will die.

I speak under the idea that they would not knowingly make a job with the idea of tanking without fixing the fact tanking doesn't actually exist... I mean no one is that stupid... right?

[Llana_Virren]

I speak under the idea that they would not knowingly make a job with the idea of tanking without fixing the fact tanking doesn't actually exist... I mean no one is that stupid... right?

RDMs called, they want their unearned hope back.

[saevel]

I speak under the idea that they would not knowingly make a job with the idea of tanking without fixing the fact tanking doesn't actually exist... I mean no one is that stupid... right?

Tanaka is still in charge of development, meaning nothing will get fixed until after he leaves. Then and only then can we hope for tanking to be fixed.

Honest the issue is two fold, first being that damage far out stripes everything else for hate generation. A melee can hit the hate cap within two WS's. No modification to the hate cap itself will fix this. Second is that SE has decided to give all NMs super Abyssea like aoe moves of death. We simply don't have the HP to survive for long. This is why we've come to rely on PD / Embrava zerg fests.

They would need to dramatically reduce the hate gained from damage, we're talking 10% of it's current value for anyone not in full DD gear to have a hope in keeping hate. They would then need to reduce the aoe spam of death by 50% or more in order to allow players to actually stay alive in fights that last longer then 3~5m.

[Demon6324236]

Yes but my point is that this seems to be a time of change honestly. We are getting enfeebling change, a new expansion after all this time, a new UI for PC, much is changing in this time, and with it I hope they fix this broken part of the game before they try to add to it. My hopes are equally as doubtful because of my RDM, but hope is all I have left, if SE screws up this time, I label the game dead to me, simple as that.

[Reiterpallasch]

Hate is now about how much damage you can do and how often your hitting once your at hate cap.

Pretty much always been this way. At least since way back during the PLD/NIN days in any case. Damage has and (until they revamp it) always will be the #1 tool for enmity generation.

[Llana_Virren]

Yes but my point is that this seems to be a time of change honestly. We are getting enfeebling change, a new expansion after all this time, a new UI for PC, much is changing in this time, and with it I hope they fix this broken part of the game before they try to add to it. My hopes are equally as doubtful because of my RDM, but hope is all I have left, if SE screws up this time, I label the game dead to me, simple as that.

Enfeebling changes are going to be aimed towards making sure GEO is relevant. RDM has nothing to do with it, and I hope that you're not still playing FFXI under the hope that RDM will somehow be fixed.

If you are, just call it dead now and quit; save yourself the inevitable disappointment that is post-2006 RDM.

[Puck]

Tanaka is still in charge of development, meaning nothing will get fixed until after he leaves. Then and only then can we hope for tanking to be fixed.

Did you actually watch the stream? Like, all of it? Tanaka wasn't even present at the dev panels, and didn't speak a word of the new expansion.

If you saw the things they had him do during Vanafest, like grabbing numbers for Mog Bonanza and showcasing food during a filler spot and other unsubstantial things, it REALLY supported the idea that he's in that "we're not gonna fire you but your job will no longer have meaning" zone as punishment for FFXIV.