Rune Fencer 2nd new job

[saevel]

Doesn't matter, not one bit

RKN (RUN) could have -100% MDT and complete Magic Immunity, and they still wouldn't be tanking nor effective.

Hate is now about how much damage you can do and how often your hitting once your at hate cap. Also monsters don't really kill you with powerful single target magic damage, they kill you with powerful aoe moves. So you can be the shining wall of invincibility, won't matter as everyone else around you will die.

[Demon6324236]

Doesn't matter, not one bit

RKN (RUN) could have -100% MDT and complete Magic Immunity, and they still wouldn't be tanking nor effective.

Hate is now about how much damage you can do and how often your hitting once your at hate cap. Also monsters don't really kill you with powerful single target magic damage, they kill you with powerful aoe moves. So you can be the shining wall of invincibility, won't matter as everyone else around you will die.

I speak under the idea that they would not knowingly make a job with the idea of tanking without fixing the fact tanking doesn't actually exist... I mean no one is that stupid... right?

[Llana_Virren]

I speak under the idea that they would not knowingly make a job with the idea of tanking without fixing the fact tanking doesn't actually exist... I mean no one is that stupid... right?

RDMs called, they want their unearned hope back.

[saevel]

I speak under the idea that they would not knowingly make a job with the idea of tanking without fixing the fact tanking doesn't actually exist... I mean no one is that stupid... right?

Tanaka is still in charge of development, meaning nothing will get fixed until after he leaves. Then and only then can we hope for tanking to be fixed.

Honest the issue is two fold, first being that damage far out stripes everything else for hate generation. A melee can hit the hate cap within two WS's. No modification to the hate cap itself will fix this. Second is that SE has decided to give all NMs super Abyssea like aoe moves of death. We simply don't have the HP to survive for long. This is why we've come to rely on PD / Embrava zerg fests.

They would need to dramatically reduce the hate gained from damage, we're talking 10% of it's current value for anyone not in full DD gear to have a hope in keeping hate. They would then need to reduce the aoe spam of death by 50% or more in order to allow players to actually stay alive in fights that last longer then 3~5m.

[Reiterpallasch]

Hate is now about how much damage you can do and how often your hitting once your at hate cap.

Pretty much always been this way. At least since way back during the PLD/NIN days in any case. Damage has and (until they revamp it) always will be the #1 tool for enmity generation.

[Demon6324236]

Yes but my point is that this seems to be a time of change honestly. We are getting enfeebling change, a new expansion after all this time, a new UI for PC, much is changing in this time, and with it I hope they fix this broken part of the game before they try to add to it. My hopes are equally as doubtful because of my RDM, but hope is all I have left, if SE screws up this time, I label the game dead to me, simple as that.

[Llana_Virren]

Yes but my point is that this seems to be a time of change honestly. We are getting enfeebling change, a new expansion after all this time, a new UI for PC, much is changing in this time, and with it I hope they fix this broken part of the game before they try to add to it. My hopes are equally as doubtful because of my RDM, but hope is all I have left, if SE screws up this time, I label the game dead to me, simple as that.

Enfeebling changes are going to be aimed towards making sure GEO is relevant. RDM has nothing to do with it, and I hope that you're not still playing FFXI under the hope that RDM will somehow be fixed.

If you are, just call it dead now and quit; save yourself the inevitable disappointment that is post-2006 RDM.

[Puck]

Tanaka is still in charge of development, meaning nothing will get fixed until after he leaves. Then and only then can we hope for tanking to be fixed.

Did you actually watch the stream? Like, all of it? Tanaka wasn't even present at the dev panels, and didn't speak a word of the new expansion.

If you saw the things they had him do during Vanafest, like grabbing numbers for Mog Bonanza and showcasing food during a filler spot and other unsubstantial things, it REALLY supported the idea that he's in that "we're not gonna fire you but your job will no longer have meaning" zone as punishment for FFXIV.

[saevel]

Did you actually watch the stream? Like, all of it? Tanaka wasn't even present at the dev panels, and didn't speak a word of the new expansion.

If you saw the things they had him do during Vanafest, like grabbing numbers for Mog Bonanza and showcasing food during a filler spot and other unsubstantial things, it REALLY supported the idea that he's in that "we're not gonna fire you but your job will no longer have meaning" zone as punishment for FFXIV.

I apologize as I haven't been watching the stream, only the tweets / posted info. I watched some of the music though.

If it is as you say, Tanaka being completely sidelined, then there is hope that things will get fixed sooner rather then later. Still as long as he has a fancy title on his desk they can not undo anything that has his name on it, it would be to insulting to the company itself. They can not make any announcements of changes from things he did until after his leaves, and then they have to do it in a somewhat circumspect way.

[Demon6324236]

Did you actually watch the stream? Like, all of it? Tanaka wasn't even present at the dev panels, and didn't speak a word of the new expansion.

If you saw the things they had him do during Vanafest, like grabbing numbers for Mog Bonanza and showcasing food during a filler spot and other unsubstantial things, it REALLY supported the idea that he's in that "we're not gonna fire you but your job will no longer have meaning" zone as punishment for FFXIV.

It matters nothing, if hes in effecting it or not, they are still fucking up, and that in general says it all. Expansion=Good. Farming & raising monsters on your island=Bad. New Magic tank that will never replace Aegis PLD but tries to make up for it by killing off the rest of RDM=Bad. New AoE buffer using the idea of Sphere effects, so that the effects, or the buffer, can be killed by crazy AoE damage while keeping players buffed=Bad. Monster PvP=Bad. Everything else I saw about this expansion was either to vague for me to know what to expect, or was pointless enough I didn't think it important enough to commit to memory.

Yesterday I was happy, I admit, today, I am pissed, because I have been told as a RDM that they still arnt doing shit to help me out of being in the spot I'm in, and gave me no reason to think I am, rather, they keep digging my grave deeper and deeper in the ground.