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  1. #111
    Player deces's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitkat View Post
    Actually it isn't if you farm the right zone. Much like it isn't unheard of a small group getting 900~1000 when camping the right zone/area. You do know NM's can drop 100's right? Otherwise I don't see how you can make this statement as a bst...and there are plenty of easy NM's to kill in hmm..I can think of 3 zones off hand near more than just a handful of JA proc mobs.



    You must never have played blu, and if you have and are saying this then you rely on your MP way too much.
    Congratulations Kitkat, Even a broken clock is right twice a day!
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  2. #112
    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    200 coins is easy for a single decently geared bst. If you have 2 at different camps with not much competition there's no reason they couldn't leave with 400 currency or 500 on a lucky day. I don't know what argument that was supporting but it's absolutely a common occurrence.
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  3. #113
    Player Prothscar's Avatar
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    Prothescar
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    Valefor
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    BLU Lv 99
    Good to see that losing 2 tiers of TH on your jug pets is akin to the Holocaust and diabetes to some people.
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  4. #114
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar View Post
    Good to see that losing 2 tiers of TH on your jug pets is akin to the Holocaust and diabetes to some people.
    Do you forget what it was like with the Heavy Strike nerf that wasn't even in the actual game, Ukko's Fury etc...
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  5. #115
    Player Kitkat's Avatar
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    Um, Heavy Strike wasn't technically nerfed since that never made it to live servers with the original power/accuracy. It was put there for testing purpose and when SE saw how it was used by the players they adjusted the output and accuracy of the spell making it so that it couldn't be abused. It is still a strong spell, just not the greatest of accuracy without using gear to enhance that pitfall. Makes the point sort of out there when this change doesn't affect damage output, just drop rate....
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  6. #116
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    There are so many misinformation in this post I'm not even going to bother addressing them, I'd just like to share my experience thus far.

    On average, I will pull in 150~180 coins solo depending on competition. On a few occasions i have pulled in 200+ coins, but this is very rare and requires that the zone be almost empty of competition.
    Per day I would make about 1.2 mil ~ 1.5 mil. On exceptionally good days I will make ~1.8 mil.

    Now this one is for all the Trolls and "lolbstnerfcrymore" I see being posted in here.
    I just did a full dynamis valkurm run solo using Tiger jug. That's right, a Tiger jug... which is a warrior pet so no treasure hunter.

    Here are my spoils as a solo BST99/DNC with Tiger pet (not thf)
    Creeper's juju
    Mirage Mantle
    Commodore Belt
    Warrior Stone
    Comm. Tricorne -1
    Mirage Keffiyeh -1
    Sorcerer's Belt
    T. Whiteshell x65
    1 Byne Bill x54
    O. Bronzepiece x46
    Forgotten Touch x3
    Koga Sarashi
    Kog. Hatsuburi -1
    Cleric's Belt


    165 coins + 3 touches = 1.3~1.4 mil on my server. Surprisingly still within my average when using THF pet.
    Don't let that dampen your day though, keep it Troll'n guys.
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  7. #117
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    Mindi
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    WAR Lv 99
    I am happy about this change.. i see no reason why BST (or their pets) should have the same base TH like a THF lv 90... (and just because the Pet is a THF dosnt mean they should be like a player THF..)

    the number of BST in Dynamis wont change much, maybe the lolperleBST (and those lolauroreBST o.O) wont be so many anymore because they feel gimped, but real BST will still get alot of currencys solo, simply because they can kill fast.
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  8. #118
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitkat View Post
    Um, Heavy Strike wasn't technically nerfed since that never made it to live servers with the original power/accuracy. It was put there for testing purpose and when SE saw how it was used by the players they adjusted the output and accuracy of the spell making it so that it couldn't be abused. It is still a strong spell, just not the greatest of accuracy without using gear to enhance that pitfall. Makes the point sort of out there when this change doesn't affect damage output, just drop rate....
    I know, but it didn't stop the moaning. A nerf in anyway will get people moaning, a nerf years after adding something will do it much worse.
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  9. #119
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    Disifer
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    BST Lv 99
    You know i'm pretty sure i've been main'ing my BST since the 80 cap, with only WHM being my only other 99 I have geared. I am in full +2 plus other items, i'm not the perle bst everyone sees in dyna. My mule is a 99 BST clone of myself. My friend plays my other character. Sure i can double my currency per day. My average pull is 190-225 coins solo per run. Most days I don't even go on both characters. I also have a friends account I have access to where I do salvage and assaults, pooling the alexandrite and keeping/selling depending on market.

    I honestly don't care about the TH nerf, another high att DD pet will prob hinder me on mobs i cannot proc right away. I never try to hold 5 mobs, at most I link 1 or 2. It's mostly from my experience the jp's who link and claim all they can, including if i had 2 mobs, and both proc'd, he would come over and WS my mob just to get my coins. The problem isn't the job, the problem is the greedy people you play with. Like I said, BST is my main, so you can imagine I don't do VW too often except on my WHM cause the job is worthless in VW. The job is used to low man old 75 content, and it makes it easier than having to bring a THF for TH3+. Most of the better drops I've gotten in salvage over the last 2 months are all off Pet TH and NOT TH9-10. It's happenstance obviously. I usually even go with a THF in salvage. The worst this nerf will do to me is leech my mule to 99THF, use money from currency sold have some LS merc my +2 items for me, in return i'll get the money back in 2-3 days usually.

    I don't think anyone would be pissed if they said we're nerfing this but we're going to add this in the future. Perhaps an update to fix some of the problems of PET JOBS in general. As of right now, SMN PUP BST and DRG are mostly useless comparable to another job. Don't sell me tickets to a movie, have no one behind the counter to get me my popcorn, have the lights stay on during the movie, me sit on a wet soda filled seat, and have the movie cut out half way thru, and expect me not want ANYTHING in return. Stop taking and give for once.

    You're problem with BST in dyna is jackoff players and lazy nubs in perle. This solves nothing but you still give the hypothetical thumbs up. I level'd my job the old fashioned way, maybe something 2% of the people on our servers can say. I'm not the problem, you're not the problem, "THEY" are.
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  10. #120
    Player Teraniku's Avatar
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafein View Post
    This is an incredibly bad move. Bst is absolutely worthless in Voidwatch. Chances are it will be extremely undesirable in Legion. That leaves us primarily with two "semi relevant" events to shine in. Abyssea, and Dynamis. Do you think we shine in those two events because when people build parties for them they shout in port jeuno "5/6 Beast Master Can I have it?"

    NO. We shine in those two areas because we are solo'ing/duo'ing. Or sometimes a small group of friends are doing something, and a Beast Master can fulfill a twofer by being a backup tank/DD with a little TH mixed in.

    With this announcement you want to shit all over small groups, and solo play in events that are boring as hell to begin with. Where if people still need things from old events Bst offers a way to obtain those items without begging for help. To help new players obtain gear, or to catch up returning players to the game who need gear yet can;t find anyone to help, because everyone has what they need from these two events already.

    Honestly wasn't Farsha enough of a kick in the balls to Beastmasters? Why don't the Developers spend their time making the WS not be the most pathetic empy WS these is outside of abyssea. Or make special pets only callable when you have relic/mythic/empy equipped? Unless this "TH gear" allows us to retain the same level of TH we've had with Yuly this decision is a complete slap in the face. How out of touch can the development team be with a game THEY are creating... Jesus.
    or you know allow BSTs to be able to Charm mobs in abbysea etc. ...... oh wait that made too much sense.
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