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  1. #1
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    Wow this is retarded, they have us falcor jug pet when it didnt win the vote, now they are gimping the jug along with ladybug, AND now they are gonna change the synth, just know they are gonna remove abaia as one of the ingrediants, so now that screws over Ebisu fishermen/cooking people.

    SE this is rediculous.
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    Player Francisco's Avatar
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    This is really just an idiotic move, for the sake of nerfing something. And my BST is like level 12 or something. I'm not even sure anymore because I don't care about BST. But this is still stupid.

    You know how I picture this Dev. Team? A bunch of guys trying to come up with good ideas, only getting shot down by a megalomaniacal Tanaka, because he has a "vision" for how everything in FFXI is supposed to be. It's his world. It's his creation. His law must be kept. Balance preserved. Order restored.

    I don't believe for a second Tanaka had anything to do with FFXI from the conception of Abyssea, up until sometime around the start of Voidwatch. It's just doesn't make any sense. I picture him being away from that entire era, on a journey of self-discovery. And the other developers, they had a ball. Until the day a dark shadow clouded the developing room. An evil wind blew across the cubicles. Tanaka stood, darkening the doorway, a furious scowl on his face. "W...what DID YOU DO???", he asked. He then went into full rage mode, ripping down posters, charts, graphs and storyboards related to Abyssea, throwing them to the floor... then jumped up and down on them screaming "NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!"

    There is really no other explanation in my mind.

    He has his vision, and here it is... he will keep nerfing other jobs until there are only about 40 players total left. He'll merge them all to one server, and instruct them all to gather together at Blueblade Fell for free Lv. 99 final weapons. Then he'll tell all the SAMs to use their job emote so there are flags. They'll do it.

    And with that, Tanaka will have completed his final vision. Recreating the ending of the opening cutscene. He'll crack a half-smile and say "good..." - Then he'll look over his shoulder, to Sage Sundi, and say "shut it down."

    Sage Sundi will ask, "Shut what down?"

    "The server. Shut it down. Our work is done."

    And thus, FFXI will die.
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    Player Coldbrand's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco View Post
    This is really just an idiotic move, for the sake of nerfing something. And my BST is like level 12 or something. I'm not even sure anymore because I don't care about BST. But this is still stupid.

    You know how I picture this Dev. Team? A bunch of guys trying to come up with good ideas, only getting shot down by a megalomaniacal Tanaka, because he has a "vision" for how everything in FFXI is supposed to be. It's his world. It's his creation. His law must be kept. Balance preserved. Order restored.

    I don't believe for a second Tanaka had anything to do with FFXI from the conception of Abyssea, up until sometime around the start of Voidwatch. It's just doesn't make any sense. I picture him being away from that entire era, on a journey of self-discovery. And the other developers, they had a ball. Until the day a dark shadow clouded the developing room. An evil wind blew across the cubicles. Tanaka stood, darkening the doorway, a furious scowl on his face. "W...what DID YOU DO???", he asked. He then went into full rage mode, ripping down posters, charts, graphs and storyboards related to Abyssea, throwing them to the floor... then jumped up and down on them screaming "NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!"

    There is really no other explanation in my mind.

    He has his vision, and here it is... he will keep nerfing other jobs until there are only about 40 players total left. He'll merge them all to one server, and instruct them all to gather together at Blueblade Fell for free Lv. 99 final weapons. Then he'll tell all the SAMs to use their job emote so there are flags. They'll do it.

    And with that, Tanaka will have completed his final vision. Recreating the ending of the opening cutscene. He'll crack a half-smile and say "good..." - Then he'll look over his shoulder, to Sage Sundi, and say "shut it down."

    Sage Sundi will ask, "Shut what down?"

    "The server. Shut it down. Our work is done."

    And thus, FFXI will die.
    No Sage Sundi would say "wut?"
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    Player Zeargi's Avatar
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    The only thing I'm going to say is this. While it's annoying to say the least, but the 'nerf' isn't going to break the bank too much.The Reason why I say this: THF's TH base is 4 with all the Job Trails; +1 For Knife, +1/+2 for Assassain's Armlets (+2), and another +1 for Empy. Feet +2. So the magic total of TH8 with gear, 9 if you use atma. BSTs will be getting an Axe, I presume. The thing about TH is that once you hit with all that loveliness, you can take the TH gear off, because it no longer helps at that point. So one extra axe to carry to proc your TH3 might be a little inconvenient, but once you've got it on the mob you can go back to business as usual. It sucks, trust me, I understand... I was working on my THF Steal gear so I could make Dippers for my BST. But it's not THAT bad of a nerf once you re-gear (again...) And 1 maybe 2 axes in the grands scheme might not be so detrimental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeargi View Post
    The only thing I'm going to say is this. While it's annoying to say the least, but the 'nerf' isn't going to break the bank too much.The Reason why I say this: THF's TH base is 4 with all the Job Trails; +1 For Knife, +1/+2 for Assassain's Armlets (+2), and another +1 for Empy. Feet +2. So the magic total of TH8 with gear, 9 if you use atma. BSTs will be getting an Axe, I presume. The thing about TH is that once you hit with all that loveliness, you can take the TH gear off, because it no longer helps at that point. So one extra axe to carry to proc your TH3 might be a little inconvenient, but once you've got it on the mob you can go back to business as usual. It sucks, trust me, I understand... I was working on my THF Steal gear so I could make Dippers for my BST. But it's not THAT bad of a nerf once you re-gear (again...) And 1 maybe 2 axes in the grands scheme might not be so detrimental.
    Depends on the mob. Big ass NM? Sure, swapping won't hurt you much. Dynamis mobs that die in seconds? You're gonna notice a significant drop in DPS from swapping weapons. For BST, it will probably still be worth it, since they're gonna have TH0 or TH1 normally (depending on the pet), and the upgrade is very effective at those tiers (upgrade up to TH2). For THF, for example, it would actually be worse to swap gear, because while you marginally increase the drop rate, you lose in amounts of kills in any given timeframe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeargi View Post
    THF's TH base is 4 with all the Job Trails; +1 For Knife, +1/+2 for Assassain's Armlets (+2), and another +1 for Empy. Feet +2. So the magic total of TH8 with gear, 9 if you use atma.
    Base 4, wut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Depends on the mob. Big ass NM? Sure, swapping won't hurt you much. Dynamis mobs that die in seconds? You're gonna notice a significant drop in DPS from swapping weapons. For BST, it will probably still be worth it, since they're gonna have TH0 or TH1 normally (depending on the pet), and the upgrade is very effective at those tiers (upgrade up to TH2). For THF, for example, it would actually be worse to swap gear, because while you marginally increase the drop rate, you lose in amounts of kills in any given timeframe.
    *The use of Treasure Hunter enhancing equipment has no effect if the current effectiveness level has risen above the user's cumulative Treasure Hunter effect (from traits, equipment, and other sources).

    *Treasure Hunter can be enhanced by any THFs in the group, not just the THF that set the initial Treasure Hunter level.

    *If a THF with a higher tier of Treasure Hunter than is currently in effect performs an action on the enemy, it will set Treasure Hunter's effectiveness to his or her level (e.g. the next strike will increase Treasure Hunter's effectiveness to +1 of his or her effect). This is also the case when a THF performs an initial action and subsequently performs another action in Treasure Hunter enhancing equipment.


    This is taken from the wiki. If you're managing to kill a mob in 10 secs then I can see what you're saying to be true, but you're procing, hitting with TH, and then finishing off. I swap gear all the time for SMN, BLM, PUP, Etc. It's instantaneous And the thing now, with Pet +TH gear, you now have greater options of pets to use. Even if you only gain TH +1, which bestows the greatest boost % to TH anyway, It's now applicable to pets that otherwise wouldn't have it as is, like Crude Raphie. While the lose of TP would be bad for gear swaps, it's not unmanageable. Most cases you're subbing DNC to begin with; so Reverse Flourish could help compensate for some of the loss there. Plus, with Dual Wield, the TP gain in most cases is large as is. And as it stands, I could be wrong, we don't even know what type of equipment it is that'll have the Pet TH+. It might be an earring you get from VW or WoE, It could be a pair of gloves you get somewhere. Which in that case, there'd be no TP loss at all, so.... yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    Base 4, wut?
    At lvl 99 The Base Treasure Hunter gain with no additional gear, etc. is 4.
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    Last edited by Zeargi; 02-14-2012 at 11:39 AM. Reason: Thought of some thing
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    The only thing worth doing on BST at this point is soloing. Might as well just delete the job at this point if they are going to take away one of the very (and I mean *very*) few perks of the job left.
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    Player JiltedValkyrie's Avatar
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    Nothing more annoying than 15 BST in zone hoarding the mobs with little effort. I say good.
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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JiltedValkyrie View Post
    Nothing more annoying than 15 BST in zone hoarding the mobs with little effort. I say good.
    I just love how you guys act like whatever Dynamis zone you're in belongs to you, and no one else should be there to get in your way. The sense of entitlement is staggering. I honestly think that's the real issue here. If it wasn't BSTs it'd be another job, other players, parties, or alliances. You guys just want the zone to yourself and anything SE does to hurt others' chances while preserving your own will be A-OK with you. Well, sorry, but Dynamis doesn't work that way anymore. You can team up, compete, or wait for SE to discover the miracle of instancing. Welcome to Neo-Dynamis! Welcome to FFXI! Enjoy your stay!
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