Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Nynja]

And yet strangely you're still the anonymous one who thinks Trashtar is better than Mandau...k troll

[Atomic_Skull]

And yet strangely you're still the anonymous one who thinks Trashtar is better than Mandau...k troll

Lots of relics are stronger then empyreans, and have been since day one, like dagger. Now quit trolling.

Please note that "troll" does not mean "someone who's opinion differs from my own"

People in here talk like no one plays in a LS anymore. Granted, the balance has shifted towards lowman content, but is seriously no one of you in a LS that would be willing to help their own relic owners with ADL?

That's pretty much what it is. They abandoned their big shells when Abyssea came out because they thought they would never need them again and now they are screwed because they tossed away the system of mutual support and personal favors they had built up over several years to dual box everything in godmode land never imagining that SE might make a U turn. Now they are raging because they're going to have to go back to a big shell and work their way up from the bottom again if they want to finish their relics.

[Nynja]

Please note that "troll" does not mean "someone who's opinion differs from my own"



That's pretty much what it is. They abandoned their big shells when Abyssea came out because they thought they would never need them again and now they are screwed because they tossed away the system of mutual support and personal favors they had built up over several years to dual box everything in godmode land never imagining that SE might make a U turn. Now they are raging because they're going to have to go back to a big shell and work their way up from the bottom again if they want to finish their relics.

Your opinion of "Twashtar is better than mandau" is as much of an opinion as "full perle/pink is the best armor set to use"...aka you're trolling.

who dropped shells cuz you could MNK+WHM glavoid? It just means the cliques in certain LS's became more restricted.

[Kitkat]

Please note that "troll" does not mean "someone who's opinion differs from my own"



That's pretty much what it is. They abandoned their big shells when Abyssea came out because they thought they would never need them again and now they are screwed because they tossed away the system of mutual support and personal favors they had built up over several years to dual box everything in godmode land never imagining that SE might make a U turn. Now they are raging because they're going to have to go back to a big shell and work their way up from the bottom again if they want to finish their relics.

No, that isn't what this is about at all. Most anything I still do with my shell and on average we have an alliance worth if not slightly over an alliance worth. The problem is the number of relics/emps within that group, and while it doesn't apply to my LS, mythics also. In the LS alone, as the trials currently stand it is to get them done 1 by 1. First 1 we might be able to squeeze out in a couple days because we have ADL pops already and a few lesser NM pops, but then it is a grind of doing it all over again and treking through the whole zone to recollect the pop items and the ADL items again. For mythic owners it is going through the ZNM tiers to get PW pops that is the issue. For what? One person? I know absolutely no one in my LS needs/wants anything of PW/ZNM let alone of ADL/DL/Lessers meaning you are expecting these people that don't have relics or do, to wait in line without any justifiable reward to offer them in return?

[wish12oz]

Please note that "troll" does not mean "someone who's opinion differs from my own"

I wasn't aware the math surrounding why mandau is better then twash was an opinion....

Please note your thoughts on what an opinion is, are incorrect.