[dev1049] Petition - Make entropy stronger

[Rohelius]

This is the old days of Dark Knight and why it got such a bad rep, also why i don't think 8hit WS is the answer..

DRK buffs up pops Souleater...

DRK uses WS the foe takes XXXX damage!

Foe turns around one shots DRK.....

DRK feels pretty good about himself...

Party... /facepalm

[Natasha]

This is the old days of Dark Knight and why it got such a bad rep, also why i don't think 8hit WS is the answer..

DRK buffs up pops Souleater...

DRK uses WS the foe takes XXXX damage!

Foe turns around one shots DRK.....

DRK feels pretty good about himself...

Party... /facepalm

Maybe, maybe not. I just want to see it improved in some way that is significant and in the way of higher damage (drk is a DD after all).

[Gaspee]

I do not play Dark Knight at all, but generally, scythe has always been especially lackluster comparatively to great sword (save Apocalypse). For what it's worth, I support the OP.

[Natasha]

I do not play Dark Knight at all, but generally, scythe has always been especially lackluster comparatively to great sword (save Apocalypse). For what it's worth, I support the OP.

Many thanks for that.

[Kyled24]

I don't understand SE. If scythe is the strongest melee weapon in the game, why the heck do the weapon skills get outplayed by almost EVERYTHING in the game. I have been playing Drk for 5 years and let me tell you.. each of these version updates has literally created a "Dead Knight". This job is very close to being considered the oh so popular "loldrg". Why should a job be too disgusted to use its own main weapon? Drk is forced to result to sticking to a Great Sword, the king of all the Drk damage... SE please fix this job..

[Armangetto]

I did some more testing with Entropy today on elder gubues in the boyha tree. (Sorry I have no Idea where or what mobs to use outside of abyssea for testing so I figured I would use a place I used to farm and for Magian trials.)

The 1st batch was done with +59 int + 65 str 930 attack with last resort, 10% da.

2526
1654
1712
2132
2093
3127
1350
2114
2016
3001

The 1350 missed the 1st hit, the 3001 was 300 tp possable da proc and the 3127 was with soul eater on. The rest were at 100 tp.

The 2nd bach was done with +59 int + 65 str 930 attack with last resort, 3% da(I forgot to take off atheling mantle). This time I use absorb int and the shadow gorget and belt. I use dark seal and neither void to get more int from absorb int. Int was +79(no seal/neither void) +94 (with seal/neither void).

2634
2678
2557
2951
2408
2702
3033
2618
3060
2938

The 3000s were done at 100 tp no da proc.

In my opinion the elemental gorget/belt stacked with as much int as possable, taking to acount acc, att, ect, boosts Entropys dmg quite a bit. I belive that it is a bit stronger than Guillotine. I think because we lack int gear to test entropy on the test server, might be why people think Entropy dmg is bad and worse than Guillotine. Hence why I used absorb int and seal/void to get a massive boost to int for testing.

In summery I belive Entroy can out dmg Guillotine using elemental belt/gorget with enough int (maybe equal int to the amount str you would gear for Guillotine?), wich also helps close the gap dmg wise bettween entroy and resolution but will probaly never out dmg resoultion.

i hope this helps out the people who know how to test entropy and the new ws in general.

[Natasha]

Question really isnt anything having to do with guillotine, scythe has been lackluster .... well since ever. Now with GS getting resolution there is pretty much no reason at all to use scythe.. I think. The weapon skill is still lacking.

[Saiken253]

I support this 100%. I've been a drk player ever since the job was released. I have always loved the combination of melee and magic(with more emphasis on melee; blu would be the reverse in a way). I don't believe what people are saying with Scythe being the Utility weapon for DRK. It wouldn't be our A+ weapon if it were. In fact, GS was/is more utility than scythe (sleepga WS, paralyze WS, ect).

From what I hear and have read, Entropy needs a huge boost. And for all those people that are making arguments against making Entropy = Resolution here's what I have to say. Personalization/specialization. Sure we can have BOTH if we really wanted, and so what? WAR can use Resolution and with Mighty Strikes that would be an insane WS, will they do that? maybe maybe not.

I have a caladbolg, and I wouldn't have gotten it if quietus was any good, and before Torcleaver I was a die-hard scythe DRK. I miss using my scythe, because I know it(outside Apocalypse) is a joke now. Having our best weapon being the worst weapon in the game is unfair. Especially since it has the highest damage rating. I say make Entropy = Resolution so that DRKs can start playing exactly the way they want to and not get laughed at regardless of their decision.

Again, I support this thread 100%, no- make that 200%.

[Armangetto]

I agree that Entropy does need a boost to be competitive with resoultion. Im just saying, I believe entropy is better than guillotine when geared properly. Also Quiteus needs a major boost.

[Natasha]

thanks for the support~