[dev1049] Petition - Make entropy stronger

[Rohelius]

Why would you not want the weapon with the higher DMG and skill rating to be the damage weapon? Sorry to ask but its SOOOO confusing to me :s

Generally speaking, great swords have average delay and damage for two-handed weapons, but their true potential is in their weapon skills. Great sword weapon skills are highly skillchain-friendly, especially for Dark Knights who sometimes have a hard time skillchaining with their Scythes. Because great sword weapon skills are primarily physical damage and single-hit, they are often much more reliable in their damage output than multi-hit weapon skills and also benefit the most from powerful single-hit job abilities such as Sneak Attack and Boost.
Any of that sound familiar?

And this~
Scythes are a high damage and high delay two-handed weapon, and focus primarily on damage output over enfeebling weaponskills or additional effects. Early on, a scythe wielder may find themselves hindered in making popular skillchains, so it is often recommended that scythe users carry a second weapon in case a certain skillchain is required. Dark Knights will frequently use a Great Sword for this purpose.

It used to be the Skillchain weapon for the endgame scene, but it later became the norm for merit parties that were fast paced weapon skill spam fests. but i think its more because everything became this big race towards 100% TP in which GS at the time was better then Scythe then with /SAM, STP, 2-handed weapon update and a lot of Haste it became just as fast to 100TP and having a higher base DMG weapon just makes more sense when ACC gear is more easily accessible.

[Natasha]

I understand how gs work, but if SE seems to be trying to move one weapon over to being utility and one to being damage focused I would think that people would want the stronger weapon to be the one focused on damage.

[Rohelius]

Yeah people want a lot of things and i do not blame them. But when you are not hitting as much because you are casting you would want your hits to hit hard right? same for WS?
well that's why i think they made scythe's base DMG higher with longer delay imo.

[Natasha]

Yeah people want a lot of things and i do not blame them. But when your not hitting as much because your casting you would want your hits to hit hard no? same for WS? well thats base DMG bump imo.

Not quite sure what you're getting at.

[Hextitan]

Not quite sure what you're getting at.

I think he's saying, technically GS doing more WS damage shouldn't matter in the long run because Scythe has much higher base damage. So it comes down to DoT vs WS.

Regardless, our Scythe WSs kinda suck, and I doubt it's for the reason he gave. I'm more apt to believe SE doesn't know what the hell they're doing. We asked for a better WS after Quietus, asked for months, and they gave us Entropy.

It's crazy that they tell us "ok guys, give us feedback" then never acknowledge us, or even post once telling us "hey guys we at least read what you said". I could understand excessive complaining getting old on another board, but they literally asked us for feedback on ways to improve the game and DRK specifically.

[Natasha]

I think he's saying, technically GS doing more WS damage shouldn't matter in the long run because Scythe has much higher base damage. So it comes down to DoT vs WS.

Regardless, our Scythe WSs kinda suck, and I doubt it's for the reason he gave. I'm more apt to believe SE doesn't know what the hell they're doing. We asked for a better WS after Quietus, asked for months, and they gave us Entropy.

It's crazy that they tell us "ok guys, give us feedback" then never acknowledge us, or even post once telling us "hey guys we at least read what you said". I could understand excessive complaining getting old on another board, but they literally asked us for feedback on ways to improve the game and DRK specifically.

Well, yeah... A big part of why they made these official forums was for better communication wasn't it? At least that is what I was lead to believe in respect to ffxiv.

[night159]

I support this petition. Entropy needs to be fixed, the mp drain is nice but it needs a new modifier. I really hope they change it because the past few scythe weaponskills have sucked and DRKs should not have to have the relic scythe to be on par with other DD's and should not have to use a secondary weapon as their main.

[Natasha]

I support this petition. Entropy needs to be fixed, the mp drain is nice but it needs a new modifier. I really hope they change it because the past few scythe weaponskills have sucked and DRKs should not have to have the relic scythe to be on par with other DD's and should not have to use a secondary weapon as their main.

Thanks for supporting~

[Juggernautx]

The Juggernautx supports this petition.

[Quetzacoatl]

Your calling me a kid when you just go on a little temper tantrum because I happen to disagree with OP's thread and alot of the ideas because they aren't taking balance into consideration. Perhaps you should look up hypocrit while your at it. All OP wanted to know is if people supported his concept of damage increase to this ws and what it should be and the following posts are all saying this should be as strong or stronger than any greatsword ws, so I decided to inform them of base balance of each weapon. As for your slippery slope concept, your wrong. SE bases almost all of this game off its past franchises, sure they do some things different but the overall flavor is still there, but if you want FFXI specific examples because you don't think it relevent otherwise then I will oblige. RNG has 2 main skills, marksmanship and archery, yet both are at a A- rating as is greatsword for DRK, in fact DRK has the highest skill rating in greatsword and is a very strong and useful weapon for DRK, not to mention the previous FF flavor but we are ignoring this. To completely ignore the balance of all of DRKs capabilities is foolish, which of course why we are so upset with SE to begin with. The whole point of my post which seems completely lost on you is that we should be constantly telling SE to bring the balance back to DRK, as well as many other jobs, because if we can get SE to balance the job then everything will fall into place.

If the foundation is flawed then the whole building will fall.

The irony in your becoming defensive when the other person you're responding to was giving his point of view just goes to show that you're not helping your argument much by responding to him like that. Smells like mad up in here.

Just my two cents.