[dev1035] Are PUPs the only loved ones?

[Greatguardian]

DRG has EX lance WS and a heap of unique JAs, and is one of the game's strongest DDs. PUP can be completely eclipsed by MNK and functions as an average DD. There is no comparison between the two.

I'd also take issue with your ideal alliance, personally =/. That's a pretty optimistic setup.

[Mahoro]

DRG has EX lance WS and a heap of unique JAs, and is one of the game's strongest DDs. PUP can be completely eclipsed by MNK and functions as an average DD. There is no comparison between the two.

I'd also take issue with your ideal alliance, personally =/. That's a pretty optimistic setup.

You are introducing a factor into the analysis which I was intentionally not using: DD strength. Obviously, the setup I proposed above would not be used in some of the new fights (Kaggen, Pil, Aello, Ildebrann etc). Instead, one would sacrifice some of the more obscure procs (PUP, BST, etc) for more of the same job, heavier DD, or more ranged DD.

[Greatguardian]

You are introducing a factor into the analysis which I was intentionally not using: DD strength. Obviously, the setup I proposed above would not be used in some of the new fights (Kaggen, Pil, Ildebrann etc). Instead, one would sacrifice some of the more obscure procs (PUP, BST, etc) for more of the same job or heavier DD.

Even taking DD power out of the equation, MNK has more procs than PUP unless you want your mages to be in melee range =/.

[Mahoro]

Even taking DD power out of the equation, MNK has more procs than PUP unless you want your mages to be in melee range =/.

I haven't counted the total number of procs each would have. If you have, great, I'm actually curious as to the final numbers. Of course, as you know, any such tabulation would have to take into account the PUP having access to certain Dagger and Club procs, as well as the total number of PUP JA and Automaton WS.