[dev1035] Are PUPs the only loved ones?

[Soranika]

What... the hell did I just read?

[Kimble]

So basically. SMN should be the best at everything?

[Moink]

I don't know which is the worst complaint PUP thread.... The WTF SE whining about a BLM Head getting Absorb - Attri & Dread Spikes... or this...

[Shotaro1]

I don't know which is the worst complaint PUP thread.... The WTF SE whining about a BLM Head getting Absorb - Attri & Dread Spikes... or this...

^ A++++++++++++++++++++++

[Mizuharu]

I don't know which is the worst complaint PUP thread.... The WTF SE whining about a BLM Head getting Absorb - Attri & Dread Spikes... or this...

I know which is worst. The third option. The one that combinds both threads and then siphoning out the crap and QQbutthurtRAGE comments from ones that actually bring up a valid point.

btw, I've yet to see a valid point in either of these topics that are complaining about the most broken pet ever finally getting fixed.

None of ya going to ruin MY Pupdate with all this complaining!

[Alhanelem]

I know which is worst. The third option. The one that combinds both threads and then siphoning out the crap and QQbutthurtRAGE comments from ones that actually bring up a valid point.

btw, I've yet to see a valid point in either of these topics that are complaining about the most broken pet ever finally getting fixed.

None of ya going to ruin MY Pupdate with all this complaining!

my last comment notwithstanding, you're 100% correct because this update is pure win.

[Hayward]

So basically. SMN should be the best at everything?

Where in the post did you see any suggetion of the kind?

I'm very satisfied with the updates to Puppetmaster as it was necessary and makes the job all the more enjoyable. What is annoying, though, is S-E's outright refusal to make similar fixes to the Summoner job. Spirits may be a secondary feature, but still needs to be made as relevant as possible when avatars aren't possible. There are still aspects to this job that need to be fixed to unshackle this job and allow it to reach it's potential.

Sorry, but I'm not trying to hear non-Summoners crying wolf about these suggestions being overpowered.

[Moink]

Where in the post did you see any suggetion of the kind?

I'm very satisfied with the updates to Puppetmaster as it was necessary and makes the job all the more enjoyable. What is annoying, though, is S-E's outright refusal to make similar fixes to the Summoner job. Spirits may be a secondary feature, but still needs to be made as relevant as possible when avatars aren't possible. There are still aspects to this job that need to be fixed to unshackle this job and allow it to reach it's potential.

Sorry, but I'm not trying to hear non-Summoners crying wolf about these suggestions being overpowered.

When has an avatar NOT been possible to summon that you needed a spirit to aid you? If you're silenced then neither an avatar or spirit is available... If you lose an avatar too fast because of a heavy tp move and the monster is too close to you do I ever seem to find the need to cast a spirit for that additional time to enhance the gap between myself and said monster being fought.

It is not about the job being overpowered. It is about the utillity of the Spirits and the small role they play for as a SMN and how are ANY of the people defending PUP crying wolf? Theyre defending, as am I, the idea that PUP needed this update far more than SMN and the poor thinking that Spirits need an update such as this.

[Malamasala]

The stupidity in this thread is just so amazing.

We actually have plenty of SMNs in here that says no to Cure V. Meanwhile SCH and RDM scream for it, but hey, we SMNs know how to play support jobs. And PUP needed the update because their automaton didn't cast cures. Light Spirit not casting cures is just "working as intended", because which healer in this game should heal?

I accept people having opinions about how dark spirit or ice spirit updates wouldn't do much. Because 600 damage every 20 seconds or 1200 every 45 isn't a world of a difference. And that is assuming SE did the correct spell timer adjustments, there is plenty of room to fail there. This all I can understand.

But dissing Light Spirit adjustments? Really? And you are subbing mage jobs to heal people?

I do not think I'm able to comprehend such ways of thinking. Choosing bad over good because you like bad better?

[Mizuharu]

The stupidity in this thread is just so amazing.

We actually have plenty of SMNs in here that says no to Cure V. Meanwhile SCH and RDM scream for it, but hey, we SMNs know how to play support jobs. And PUP needed the update because their automaton didn't cast cures. Light Spirit not casting cures is just "working as intended", because which healer in this game should heal?

I accept people having opinions about how dark spirit or ice spirit updates wouldn't do much. Because 600 damage every 20 seconds or 1200 every 45 isn't a world of a difference. And that is assuming SE did the correct spell timer adjustments, there is plenty of room to fail there. This all I can understand.

But dissing Light Spirit adjustments? Really? And you are subbing mage jobs to heal people?

I do not think I'm able to comprehend such ways of thinking. Choosing bad over good because you like bad better?

LightSpirit isn't necessarily a SMN's only choice for healing a party. The automaton is for PUP. I wouldn't mind the AI of LightSpirit tweaked a bit, but your OP made it sound like SMN should be getting this patch over PUP.