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    lol cracks me up. emps were very easy to make and now people crying cause they are going to be difficult. viva old ffxi!!
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    Fajin Boots

    Attack-4 Evasion+4 Movement speed +18%


    Don't even try to say that these are "situational" or a "sidegrade" because they are a 67% improvement over Strider/Skadi and if you have them you will be wearing them 95% of the time.

    Toci's harness

    STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Double Attack"+3% Sphere: Haste+2% Set: "Triple Attack"+3%

    Best Mercy Stroke body, period.

    Whirlwind Dirs

    STR+12 INT-12 "Double Attack"+3%

    Best Mercy Stroke legs, period.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    Fajin Boots

    Attack-4 Evasion+4 Movement speed +18%


    Don't even try to say that these are "situational" or a "sidegrade" because they are a 67% improvement over Strider/Skadi and if you have them you will be wearing them 95% of the time.
    Either your THF/RNG is only for running around or are horribly geared if 95% of the time you'd be wearing movement gear instead of actual DD relevant feet.
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    DA: If you're in abyssea - additional movespeed over trotter/skadi doesn't matter, if you're in VW - Thf doesn't matter.

    That's going to be his answer, believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Either your THF/RNG is only for running around or are horribly geared if 95% of the time you'd be wearing movement gear instead of actual DD relevant feet.
    95% of the time on any job you will be running somwhere, don't try to pretend otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    DA: If you're in abyssea - additional movespeed over trotter/skadi doesn't matter
    Movement speed from Atma does not stack with movement speed from gear. Even if if did 12+18% would be better than 12+12%.

    Where is applies is irrelevant anyway, Strider Boots used to sell for 20-50 million back when they were the only option for a reason and it had nothing to do with events. It's because they save you time everywhere.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    95% of the time on any job you will be running somwhere, don't try to pretend otherwise
    Sorry my THF at least doesn't move around that much. None of my jobs do really since anything we do involves a good amount of time in one place doing the same thing over and over and its takes 5-20min to get any camp so no I don't spend that much time running.

    Edit: Lets say your THF does run that much, so after you get those feet what's the point of helping someone else get their Emp done while you wait in line? After all Return1's line method has you waiting for 1500 items per player instead of 1 per player like the old HNM gear of 75
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  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Sorry my THF at least doesn't move around that much. None of my jobs do really since anything we do involves a good amount of time in one place doing the same thing over and over and its takes 5-20min to get any camp so no I don't spend that much time running
    If all you do is log in for events and then log back out I guess I can see why movement speed wouldn't be important to you. There are a lot more things to do in to FFXI than fighting things for loot however. And many of those things involve running all over the place.

    Edit: Lets say your THF does run that much, so after you get those feet what's the point of helping someone else get their Emp done while you wait in line? After all Return1's line method has you waiting for 1500 items per player instead of 1 per player like the old HNM gear of 75
    lolwut? I'm keeping my plates for myself thanks. I will certainly keep doing voidwatch for more plates for upgrading or selling however.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    If all you do is log in for events and then log back out I guess I can see why movement speed wouldn't be important to you. There are a lot more things to do in to FFXI than fighting things for loot however. And many of those things involve running all over the place.
    If you mean those stupid quests/missions that add length by having you run to X then Y then back to X, etc. I did those on DNC because 25% > 18% well 12% at the time. I can see you point in them being wanted, that however doesn't change them from being situational, time to run = situation when you wear them.

    Though I'm pretty sure the odds of getting 18 of those feet is higher than getting 1500 plates first. Which goes back to the question of why I or any other player would stick around to help one person get 1500 plates before anyone else.


    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    lolwut? I'm keeping my plates for myself thanks. I will certainly keep doing voidwatch for more plates for upgrading or selling however.
    Have you not been reading Return1's logic that people will be willing to spam VW over and over to help 1 person get 1500 plates then move on to the next one? Your comment proves you aren't willing to go by that rule structure which is the point. The only appeal VW has in repeatedly doing it is everyone keeping their own plates making it an extremely slow upgrade stage for what may truly be a lack luster upgrade/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Have you not been reading Return1's logic that people will be willing to spam VW over and over to help 1 person get 1500 plates then move on to the next one?
    Read it yes. Paid attention, not really.

    Your comment proves you aren't willing to go by that rule structure which is the point.
    Irrelevant to me because that isn't what I was talking about.

    The only appeal VW has in repeatedly doing it is everyone keeping their own plates making it an extremely slow upgrade stage for what may truly be a lack luster upgrade/
    I never said that was not the case.
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    been reading all day on and off , return is retarded i want picks of the same group of people doing VW with you only and you not paying them more then 100k per plate , this includes documentation of people getting and opening ever pouch. until you can do that your talking out your ass and your delusional to think people would seriously give you everything and be 100% honest to you.
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