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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    Fajin Boots

    Attack-4 Evasion+4 Movement speed +18%


    Don't even try to say that these are "situational" or a "sidegrade" because they are a 67% improvement over Strider/Skadi and if you have them you will be wearing them 95% of the time.

    Toci's harness

    STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Double Attack"+3% Sphere: Haste+2% Set: "Triple Attack"+3%

    Best Mercy Stroke body, period.

    Whirlwind Dirs

    STR+12 INT-12 "Double Attack"+3%

    Best Mercy Stroke legs, period.
    You don't get Pimpchan's logic. Why play THF, when you can DD better on WAR? They're just TH whores after all. Why have RDM when you can cure better on WHM? They're just refresh whores after all.

    According to him FF runs on only three jobs, with others just boosting those jobs' abilities. He doesn't get why some people even play this game, or games at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Either your THF/RNG is only for running around or are horribly geared if 95% of the time you'd be wearing movement gear instead of actual DD relevant feet.
    It's because you run around most of the time, sometimes even during battle. Movement speed is one of the most worthwhile investments you can have in this game. Think about how it even changes the gameplay of some jobs. If you get a Novio over Herald's, you don't understand the capabilities of a BLM or SCH. And Novio used to be one of the most expensive items in the game (considering current economy affected almost everything, it probably still is, bar relics and such "upgrade" items).

    It saves time, which is a lot in this time sink of a game, but it's also useful for kiting/holding strategies and most importantly, almost never having to cast sneak/invisible (and, as a nice side effect, you get to learn first hand which mobs move at Flee speed.. hello, Manticores).
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    FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
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    Player Kimble's Avatar
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    Just wondering, what events do you find worth doing? I'd assume Dynamis, anything else?
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    There are some nice voidwatch pieces, and fortunately most of them are buyable so I don't have to do repetitive fights for shit drops. Did Zilart Tier 1/2 last night with two characters and made about 1mil, then bought a Mollusca Mantle that someone else got on the run and ended up down money for the night.
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    Seriously? MarkovChain is Pchan? Dear lord how did I not notice...Now I just feel silly, Pchan is the one of the top 3 trolls of FFXI.

    Well I'm done with that.

    My point that I've been trying to make is simple. This is endgame. It should be harder. Upgrades shouldn't get EASIER as you go along. On top of that, there should be some trials your average player can't do/doesn't want to do. Empyreans please casuals because they got something nice, and the 99 update should give the more dedicated something to do. It appeals to everyone but those that think they're the only one's whose opinions and gear matters.

    The plates aren't even hard to get. People will team up to get them. They can be spammed as easily as Abyssea NMs. People keep saying people won't help each other, and that's why it'll take you longer to get yours. 18 people working together to get 1 emp upgrade at a time will get 18 95s done long before 18 individuals will get their 95s. This is the reason and motivation used to make a shell like I stated. People go on about me using people, but I have no intention of using them to get myself a 95 upgrade. I'd much rather help my friends get what they want, and make more friends along the way. I guess people aren't used to others not shitting all over them every chance they get.
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    i'm starting to see the plates in port jeuno for 500k.

    just an update
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    Player Return1's Avatar
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    You'd have to be stupid to pay 500k for them. People pricing them for 500k are just showing they have plates or trying to cash in off a new event. Sorta like how people were posting Blizzaja up for 5mil. Some people were actually dumb enough to pay 5mil for a shiny new thing they found, but the price has settled to about 900k. Same thing for Plates. By 2 months we'll see a going price of under 100k a plate.
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    Because I'm pretty sure it's still stronger than Evisceration at 100%TP, although I could be wrong. It only seems to average higher for me at over 150-200ish TP. Slightly different WS sets of course for both.

    Edit: Outside Abyssea of course.
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    Last edited by noodles355; 10-03-2011 at 01:22 PM.

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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Because I'm pretty sure it's still stronger than Evisceration at 100%TP, although I could be wrong. It only seems to average higher for me at over 150-200ish TP. Slightly different WS sets of course for both.

    Edit: Outside Abyssea of course.
    For me Evisceration is anywhere from a bit higher than DE to much higher depending on crits. DE might be better for SATA but I haven't used either for SATA for many years now.
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    Player Byrth's Avatar
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    Dancing Edge is still better for Dancers by quite a bit, I think, mostly due to gear selection and base stats.
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    I'l start parsing properly on the remaining dagger trials (mindless mob culling) and in dynamis etc, but so far DE has looked to average higher, and be more consistant. Been seeing 800-2000 EVs, averaging 1200ish, and 1100-1500 DEs, averaging 1300ish. It's all eyeballed of course so not actually worth anything, but it's given me an incentive to parse the 2 WS now outside abyssea.
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