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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    stealing is stealing no matter what it is. You steal therefore you are a thf and not worthy of listening to. Just because something is there doesnt make it yours to take from someone else. "I see a car with keys in, I drive it away, Im not stealing it, they were foolish to leave the keys in it." try telling that to a judge.
    I wonder if you would hold the same ideals outside of Abyssea. I wonder if you wouldn't take someone else's Nidhogg pop in less than 1.68 seconds after they lolwiped. I wonder if you would let a Kirin depop. Or anything even remotely desirable to kill in this day and age for whatever reason. I'm willing to bet no because it's not as simple as visiting the AH to buy pop items for a NM outside of Abyssea.

    Let's be real here. Your group is going to take these pops if people wiped on them. You might be nice enough to offer something out of the kill so long as it's not the drops you're after(and you might even let a Abyssea NM depop to avoid drama because it's really no big loss), but you are never going to stand there and watch a force spawn HNM depop after someone else wiped to it. You know the value of the spawn and you're going to take it long before you watch it despawn with no chance of the other group recovering(nevermind that there are encounters where you can recover just fine while weakened, I have to do it constantly on Suz when it chainspells my ass dead with -ga III instead of using other spells)

    My point is, part of the player base seems to have this false belief that Abyssea content is somehow excluded from the normal rules of engagement because they can recover from a wipe, and that's what's going on here with you. I challenge you to admit all of the above. Admit it to earn some respect. If people want to have the viewpoint that you do, that's all fine and dandy(It's even a matter of opinion whether or not it's the right or wrong viewpoint)............






    ..........as long as they are truthful about how that viewpoint changes the instant they step out of Abyssea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vold View Post
    Before this is inevitably locked:

    I wonder if you would hold the same ideals outside of Abyssea. I wonder if you wouldn't take someone else's Nidhogg pop in less than 1.68 seconds after they lolwiped. I wonder if you would let a Kirin depop. Or anything even remotely desirable to kill in this day and age for whatever reason. I'm willing to bet no because it's not as simple as visiting the AH to buy pop items for a NM outside of Abyssea.

    Let's be real here. Your group is going to take these pops if people wiped on them. You might be nice enough to offer something out of the kill so long as it's not the drops you're after(and you might even let a Abyssea NM depop to avoid drama because it's really no big loss), but you are never going to stand there and watch a force spawn HNM depop after someone else wiped to it. You know the value of the spawn and you're going to take it long before you watch it despawn with no chance of the other group recovering(nevermind that there are encounters where you can recover just fine while weakened, I have to do it constantly on Suz when it chainspells my ass dead with -ga III instead of using other spells)

    My point is, part of the player base seems to have this false belief that Abyssea content is somehow excluded from the normal rules of engagement because they can recover from a wipe, and that's what's going on here with you. I challenge you to admit all of the above. Admit it to earn some respect. If people want to have the viewpoint that you do, that's all fine and dandy(It's even a matter of opinion whether or not it's the right or wrong viewpoint)............






    ..........as long as they are truthful about how that viewpoint changes the instant they step out of Abyssea.
    To cut a long story short, why not let it depop, its not yours. No matter how much something is worth if you steal it, its still stealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    To cut a long story short, why not let it depop, its not yours. No matter how much something is worth if you steal it, its still stealing.
    Because letting mobs depop damages society?

    Edit: Oh look, Korpg is getting firsthand experience at how people feel about him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    To cut a long story short, why not let it depop, its not yours. No matter how much something is worth if you steal it, its still stealing.
    Which is the crux of the whole argument, you do not know the proper definition of ownership.
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