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    Player Zatias's Avatar
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    Funny to mention that, because I always thought that going away with your door wide open was an invitation stating "Steal everything in here".

    Theft can be the victim's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    You seem to think there is nothing wrong in stealing other peoples mobs. Even at 1% I could tank it weakened and kill it what gives you the right to steal my pop.
    When you die, it's not yours any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zatias View Post
    Funny to mention that, because I always thought that going away with your door wide open was an invitation stating "Steal everything in here".

    Theft can be the victim's fault.
    It's not even this. This is an MMO. When an item is in your inventory, it is yours. When you expend that item in order to spawn a monster, the claim on that monster is yours. When you lose that claim, it is no longer "Your" monster. It is a monster, with no claim.

    Spamming cure on a tank and forcefully removing claim from another group? That's stealing.

    Taking an unclaimed monster? That's just normal. You're not taking it from anyone at all. No one owns it, as the original owner lost their right to it when they lost claim.

    There is no victim. There is no theft.
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    Last edited by Greatguardian; 09-17-2011 at 02:50 PM.

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    if theres a law that says leaving your keys in the car means its free for anyone to drive , you bet your ASS id spend my free time @ a dealership waiting for someone to *** up and so would millions of others.

    ITT: I MAD I CANT SOLO
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    Last edited by Melodicya; 09-18-2011 at 02:07 PM. Reason: Content was edited by Moderator due to violation of Forum Guidelines.
    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    As far as I'm aware BG has always held the position of "We're not the *** Morality Police". People are welcome to express their opinions about third party programs on this site. However, we will, as stated, ban the *** *** out of someone trying to post links to said programs. And if people want to cry about Stan's guild program then they should probably start boycotting ffxiah. And excel.

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    Its not that I cant solo, its the right to solo was taken away when they should not have the mob for free. If i die fair game the mob depops and someone else tries. What I disagree is the mob staying and you killing it at 1%.
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    As much as I will hate this, I will have to agree with the BG crowd on this one. If you fail at 1%, don't cry when somebody takes it at 1% after you died. Only complain when somebody curebombs and steals your mob at 10% or less, and complain to a GM, not a forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    stealing is stealing no matter what it is. You steal therefore you are a thf and not worthy of listening to. Just because something is there doesnt make it yours to take from someone else. "I see a car with keys in, I drive it away, Im not stealing it, they were foolish to leave the keys in it." try telling that to a judge.
    I dropped a $20 on the ground without realizing. You walk up a few minutes later and see that $20. Are you going to leave it there in hopes that nobody but me picks it up or are you going to pocket that $20 and bless your good luck that day?

    See, I can add real life situations too.

    Point being, you failed at soloing a mob, don't expect people to sit by and letting the mob depop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    When you die, it's not yours any more.
    And it is no one elses either. Thats the point I made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    And it is no one elses either. Thats the point I made.
    Says who?bleh
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    Pretty sure that "Unclaimed" (yellow) meant NOT claimed by anyone.... last I checked my understanding of the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    Its not that I cant solo, its the right to solo was taken away when they should not have the mob for free. If i die fair game the mob depops and someone else tries. What I disagree is the mob staying and you killing it at 1%.
    the right wasn't taken away YOU lost it when you died, depop or not. i promise you would be making the exact opposite argument if mobs did depop you would be crying about how apoc is useless if things depop and they dont give you a chance to recover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    As far as I'm aware BG has always held the position of "We're not the *** Morality Police". People are welcome to express their opinions about third party programs on this site. However, we will, as stated, ban the *** *** out of someone trying to post links to said programs. And if people want to cry about Stan's guild program then they should probably start boycotting ffxiah. And excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    As much as I will hate this, I will have to agree with the BG crowd on this one. If you fail at 1%, don't cry when somebody takes it at 1% after you died. Only complain when somebody curebombs and steals your mob at 10% or less, and complain to a GM, not a forum.



    I dropped a $20 on the ground without realizing. You walk up a few minutes later and see that $20. Are you going to leave it there in hopes that nobody but me picks it up or are you going to pocket that $20 and bless your good luck that day?

    See, I can add real life situations too.

    Point being, you failed at soloing a mob, don't expect people to sit by and letting the mob depop.
    if i saw you drop it, id return it because im not a thf.
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