Inconsiderate!

[Zatias]

OK, first off, I am not posting this thread to complain. I simply want to poll people's opinions and find out if I am in the wrong. So if you're coming in here with a lighter and a bag of fresh poop, please step out.

This has happened the majority of the times of farming Dynamis. We're in for a good 40min-1hr, and a group shows up and camps over us. When I search the zone, there is usually only a few other people (not including my group and the overcamping group) so it's not an issue of congestion.

Am I the only one who finds this very inconsiderate? I mean sure, if the whole zone was full, I could understand if the group had no where else to go. But camping over the only other group in the zone?

It's like going into a movie theater, and you see only 2 people sitting in the back. You have the option to sit anywhere, and you sit right near them. It's creepy.

Most of the groups' excuses are, that they camp there every time, which is generally a weak excuse. I could say the same, and that my group was there first. It's not about where you usually camp, it's seeing a group is already camping there, but you choose to overcamp. If I see some group or even a soloer at my usual camp, I choose a different one.

If you see a car parked in your usual spot, do you push it out of the way with your car or key it because it's in YOUR spot? No, you find a different one. If your answer is yes to this question, then you need mental help XD

That's my opinion on this matter.

Inb4 just move and find a new camp then. That's usually what I end up doing if the group doesn't move.

That's not the point of this thread; I want to know how people feel about overcamping players that were there first.

Is it inconsiderate or justifiable? What do you all think?

[Korpg]

Welcome to Human Nature 101, where everyone is ***.

Don't expect kindness from your fellow strangers, they will most likely kick you while you are down and take your wallet afterwards.

[Greatguardian]

It's just a math problem. If the spot is good enough such that farming there with competition is better than farming elsewhere without competition, then it's worth it to fight for a spot. This is especially true when the relative skill of the groups is tilted in the favor of the "invader".

Invading a camp where you would be worse off than if you had just taken an empty camp elsewhere is just stupid, though.

Do I consider it rude? Not really. No one has any sort of singular claim to any zone or monsters. It's rarely personal. People will simply act in the best interests of their group.

[Dragoy]

If you see a car parked in your usual spot, do you push it out of the way with your car or key it because it's in YOUR spot? No, you find a different one. If your answer is yes to this question, then you need mental help XD

Haha. :]


It is a bit rude, yes, since they obviously see you are there first.

Of course, they have the right to do so, since it's a kind of a 'free-for-all' system.
I haven't really done group things like this for a long time, though, so just as you mentioned, I would also just move elsewhere, or if I see another person/group at where I am going and can't really team up, I'll just go somewhere else.

Competing with other players is not why I ever played Final Fantasy XI, there are other games for that, and I never really saw FFXI as one of them, what comes to regular came-play.
Only time I really have been fighting for a monster is Charybdis (or Chabit as Icream would call it), back when it really mattered.
Gotta say that while I really don't like that aspect of this game, it did feel really good to win over the many likely botters and whatnots, and vanquish the foe even. Still, since it is a non-PvP environment, this kind of things are not a plus in my opinion.

But I digress.

As you feel, I feel; it is a bit rude but well, that's what the game allows and is, and there's not much we can do about it but the best way I have found to get over it is to just not waste energy into being frustrated, or even angry about it.


I'll stop now, before I go over yonder. ^^
Just some thoughts~

[Rearden]

Good thing you can go 7 days a week

[Zatias]

Guys come on, keep personal attacks out of this ;/

And yes you can go 7 times a week. That's why I said I wasn't complaining, I was wondering why people are camping over me when the zone is otherwise empty.

[Gokku]

its the same as stealing abyssea NM's that go yellow. fair game suck it up and deal with it , if your killing effectivly no other group will bother you. ill openly admit if i see gimp players doing an semi defficult fight i stop and wait for them to *** up, Eve has been good to me with that free speed feet free ocelot gloves <3 charm and death breaths.

[katz]

If you want manners and politeness, there are very few players left who still have standards set. Most are grab what I can crowds and dont care who they walk over to get it. Its the mob mentality that SE seem to encourage.

[Zatias]

So, if you see a small group farming you bring your whole LS of 18+ people and camp over them because you can kill faster than them?

On the other hand, "stealing" a yellow NM isn't really "stealing". If the group *** up, they *** up, and we can't let that NM depop now can we?

[katz]

I would prefer the mob to depop than for me to have done all the hard work and someone else take it at 1% as I was raising up to kill it again......