Merton Vs Odin: What the hell SE?

[Korpg]

By the looks of it, both are Dark elemental, both would have the same accuracy standpoint (since the SCH in the video used Elemental Seal on the scorp before using it), and both wouldn't do much on actual NMs.

Yeah, if you are farming TEs or Gold Boxes, both would be underwelmed by other jobs that can do the job without the use of 2 hour, but it does give SCH something. What did they have to use before this video was made that they could TE farm in abyssea? Nothing.

I still want to see the potency of Brave though, it might make SCH wanted again.

[Neonii]

By the looks of it, both are Dark elemental, both would have the same accuracy standpoint (since the SCH in the video used Elemental Seal on the scorp before using it), and both wouldn't do much on actual NMs.

Yeah, if you are farming TEs or Gold Boxes, both would be underwelmed by other jobs that can do the job without the use of 2 hour, but it does give SCH something. What did they have to use before this video was made that they could TE farm in abyssea? Nothing.

I still want to see the potency of Brave though, it might make SCH wanted again.

What do you use to T.E. farm on smn solo? I'm curious as if there is something I missed.

[Ophannus]

Tabula Rasa lasts 60 seconds. Astral Flow is 3 minutes. Next!

[Dreamin]

Tabula Rasa lasts 60 seconds. Astral Flow is 3 minutes. Next!

You clearly doesnt' know that summoning Odin will instantly cancels AF. So yes, AF CAN be 3min but if you use Odin or Alexander, it's game over until you reset your 2hr. In your words, TR 60 seconds, Odin/Alexander, Instant. Next!

[Economizer]

Oh come on, smn has gotten tons of good stuff and is even given new avatars with this coming update, what does sch have? Nothing. Its mainly used as a sub only and those who have it at 90 have a hard time getting a pt cause ppl lolsch the job all the time. We cant nuke as good as a blm and we are stuck with just cure IV, Sch finally gets 1 thing that makes it a worthwhile job and u wanna complain? Get over it.

Scholar should never and will never be as good as Black Mage or White Mage again. Get over it.

Beat me to it lol, I was honestly unaware anyone considered SCH a loljob until this merton video was released. I've always thought SCH was great, one of the last things I did was with a SCH, we trio'ed Mictlantehcuhtli with a MNK, and they were giving us the emnity-/+ spells, nuking and keeping the MNK regained was a easy fight.

That's because the job is actually useful. You wouldn't believe how many Scholars in the Scholar forums won't be happy until they can cure as good as a White Mage can and dismiss anything you say "because White Mage has Cure VI" like it is an actual argument. Regardless of any actual issues with the job, the majority of them don't ask for useful, unique abilities, because they just want their job to be Dark Arts -> replace Black Mage, Light Arts -> replace White Mage with a bit of Stratagem -> replace Red Mage on the side.

Also, acting like other jobs don't have valid complaints is real mature too. But I shouldn't judge the Scholar class based on what the most noticeable and whiny parts of the community that plays it does.

I'm all for Scholar getting more and more unique abilities rather then just being a copy of 2-3 jobs depending on what Arts it is using. A potent healing helix could possibly deal with their healing woes, and of course, the possibility of tier 2 Helixes, and spells that change the conditions of the battlefield. Everyone deserves a plethora of new toys.

As for all the Summoners complaining, Scholar is already a useful FC support class already, since a Red Mage can cover someone doing AOE WS by Phalanx + Cure IV, Scholar can too. Buffing this so they can do an AOE nuke like Black Mage once every two hours doesn't seem unreasonable.

Shoot, even if the Scholar merits Dagger, subs Red Mage, and uses a combination of Phalanx, Aeolian Edge, and Merton to self farm in Abyssea, what is wrong with this? Some jobs are already capable of solo chest farm.

Perhaps Odin deserves a boost, at least in Abyssea. Maybe on mobs that it "misses" that aren't NMs it could do 9999 damage (resistable?). Of course, until a proposed buff like this is set in place, don't forget about your other summons...

[Dew]

Why are people even comparing Schs Metron to Odin? Odin KO's mobs it hits and dmgs nms. Metron from that video does dmg and dot. They aren't similar and smn is in no way, shape, or form similar to a sch. People need to quit QQing and get over it. Always something people cry about when something else gets this or that.

[Dallas]

I stand corrected. There are SMN who will defile a SCH's oatmeal, even when its the only oatmeal they have seen since L75.

[Dreamin]

No QQ'ing here. Just want to clarify things when people who clearly has no idea what they're talking about try to act like they know everything.

Personally, I'm glad that SCH gets something that can be useful. I played way too many different jobs depending on what it is that I'm doing and each job does have its advantages and disadvantages. The only job(s) that I ever make fun of are DRKs and PUPs because I know friends who love those jobs and making fun of them is part of my job and makes playing fun (sometimes).

[Korpg]

What do you use to T.E. farm on smn solo? I'm curious as if there is something I missed.

I haven't done a TE farm as SMN in a very long time.

Unless you cap Azure on Emp squids or clinoids, you won't be soloing TE. But I have a lot of stones so I don't really need to worry about wasting them when I solo in Abyssea.

[Elexia]

I've yet to see a SMN use Odin lately because the novelty wore off by now. Get over it. "Oh noes a job got something good that's similar to my toy boo hoo hooo!" is the cancer that kills MMORPGs. Quit it.