Merton Vs Odin: What the hell SE?

[Tannlore]

I'm happy for this update as a 90 SCH but shocked.... After our Modus Veritas got hit when groups of sch could do this -very- -same- -thing- on single targets. They give it back to us, in the form of a castable spell.... and it can be AoEd? Ha!! Awesome <3 this SE sooooo much! Can't wait to start casting this on my SCH all over the place. Who need Meteor? (... okay I do)

However, Tarage has a point too and I do want to point out he's not saying to take it away from SCH. He's asking for a look over on Odin's 2hr. A valid concern considering the difference between the two. One is a castable spell (be it we don't know the cost/re-cast time) vs. an all or nothing attack that eats all available mp, is horribly inaccurate (good luck hitting more than 4 mobs), and can't be used again for 2hrs (build those pearl/azure lights!).

Also, do I eyes deceive me... but after that Merton devastated those mandies... The one still alive kept beating on the galka and not the SCH. Maybe the spell has a miss chance like Odin after all (Be it a much, muuuuch lower miss rate). Or just generates almost no hate... or the mandy flat out resisted Darn them for not showing logs!

[Michae]

I still say that sch has gotten the short end of the stick since day1. Dont complain cause it gets 1 thing thats even somewhat comparable to a diff job and might even make it (gasp) sought after. We must also not forget sublimation. Isnt that too much like rdm refresh? Is it not fair to the rdm that sch has 1 thing simular to the thing thats almost exclusively rdm? Oh wait blu has it now too, theres another thing to add to ur complaint.

If you want to complain that this ability is too smnish that then make urself comfortable cause se is blurring the lines of the jobs big time lately and you have alot of letters to write. (thank god you already have on a diaper, or at least I assume you do)

[Yukichibi]

In the video, the SCH use manifestation to make it AOE, thus paying 2x the MP cost of the spell.
Odin is just a toy, Perfect Defense is the a real 2 hours, making 6 people invincible to all damage, up to 90 seconds.

[Ank]

Hey who knows, maybe brave will suck.

Then sch and smn will be like counterparts.

Yeah.

[Alhanelem]

Although SCH is still a solid job, the new stuff it's gotten with the cap increases has been mostly underwhelming.

For the record: The spell is called Merton, and will be called Merton. That's English, not japanese. Why would they call it "meltdown?" That sounds like something that would be fire based, and we know it's dark based; the effect doesn't look like a meltdown either.

[Tannlore]

Although SCH is still a solid job, the new stuff it's gotten with the cap increases has been mostly underwhelming.

For the record: The spell is called Merton, and will be called Merton. That's English, not japanese. Why would they call it "meltdown?" That sounds like something that would be fire based, and we know it's dark based; the effect doesn't look like a meltdown either.

Ah, but underwhelming additions with the cap increases is not the providence of SCH alone sir and that is the heart of the topic at hand here no?

And for the record's record: I'll take Emperor Gestahl's name for the spell: "Melton"!

[Alhanelem]

Ah, but underwhelming additions with the cap increases is not the providence of SCH alone sir and that is the heart of the topic at hand here no?

And for the record's record: I'll take Emperor Gestahl's name for the spell: "Melton"!

I guess my intended message was "Just because a job is good does not mean it deserves crappy updates." New stuff isn't added just to balance the jobs, it's also to spice them up.

Until Odin can do better than max 10% of the mobs health at 100% of the mob's health only, Odin will just take a back seat for Astral Flow to Alexander.

Against most of the mobs you'd use it against where it inflicts damage, the maximum is 9999, which I hit pretty often; I'm pretty sure the max is 20% not 10%; because I've done over 12000 damage to king behemoth (with bonuses and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have 100,000 HP. Odin doesn't always take a backseat, either. If you don't really need alexander, then you may as well use Odin, since chances are good it will do more damage than the other 2hours with less fuss.

[noodles355]

Until they show a video of Merton doing the same insane damage to NMs as Odin can, you can pipe down.

[Runespider]

In the video is pretty much showed a FC war and the SCH one shotting everything, given how easy ISL boxes are I'm assuming they wanted to try give the players another FC job?

[Leonlionheart]

Take solace in the fact that Alexander is F***ING AMAZING.

But yeah, BLU can one hit dozens, maybe hundreds of mobs in theory, but magic accuracy plays a big role in that. WAR can one hit 95% of infinity in theory, as long as they are close enough, the last 5% is the loss you would get from Accuracy capping at 95%. BLM too, can one hit massive amounts of mobs with the right atma and the right targets. SCH being able to do so with ES+Dark Arts+Tabula Rasa is nothing "over powered." On the contrary, it's quite underwhelming. Hopefully the DoT makes it usable on NMs and not only for AoE farming.

I'm much more interested in the potency of "Bravery."