Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

[Korpg]

Except SCH is better at crowd control than BLM. Was better at 75, still better at 90. BLM may have more sleep options (Sleep, Sleepga, Sleep II, Sleepga II), but SCH has 5 Stratagems to use with Break, Bind, and Gravity (depending on subjob) to keep their face from getting smashed in once Sleep(ga) II's duration ends, in addition to their own 2 sleeps. I've been the primary sleeper for Dynamis as RDM/BLM, BLM/RDM (before SCH got Stoneskin), and SCH/BLM. SCH/BLM is hands down the best, no contest. BLM/SCH comes in second, due to the 2 Stratagem limitation.

Ok, now I know you don't know what you are talking about.

Why would a BLM use Manifestation + Sleep anyway? A good BLM can keep the mobs slept with just Sleepga II. On the odd case that some mobs get woken up accidentally or a shorter sleep than usual, a quick sleepga or Sleep II will do the job. Unless you are thinking about Break + Manifestation, which in that case, you might have a point....might. But Sleep works just as well and is more reliable than Break.

[Raksha]

Ok, now I know you don't know what you are talking about.

Why would a BLM use Manifestation + Sleep anyway? A good BLM can keep the mobs slept with just Sleepga II. On the odd case that some mobs get woken up accidentally or a shorter sleep than usual, a quick sleepga or Sleep II will do the job. Unless you are thinking about Break + Manifestation, which in that case, you might have a point....might. But Sleep works just as well and is more reliable than Break.

/facepalm

A blm/sch would use manifestation for AoE bind, gravity, and stun in addition to break. Probably not for AoE sleep.

Hydra mobs for instance arent sleepable.

EDIT: also AoE aspir and alacrity sleepga2

[cogg]

while camping magian NMs i had time to think of an adjustment for every job!
edited, thanks for constructive feedback.

WAR - Ability that greatly extends the skillchain effect duration of your next Weapon Skill, to increase the solo-Skillchaining potential of Meditate and Reverse Flourish.

SMN - Ability that switches Hit Point % between you and your pet.

MNK - Ability that increases Guard rate, but also increases H2H delay.

DRG - Enhance Jump to increase damage with distance from target.

THF - Ability that limits attacks to a single swing, and multiplies damage at the rate of multi-swing hits.

SCH - Main job Scholars able to use Haste / Regen III / Cure V with Accession.

WHM - Job Trait that shortens the duration of negative status effects.

PUP - Occasionally, using Pet Abilities will not consume maneuvers, also enhance puppet with Conserve TP and Conserve MP.

NIN - Ability that enhances magic attack / accuracy for next spell only. If the next spell is ninjutsu, a tool will not be consumed.

BST - Occasionally, pet items will not be consumed, also enhance pets summoned with Call Beast with Conserve TP.

BLM - Ability that enhances magic damage for next spell only, but also increases casting time.

RDM - Ability that lowers Spell Interruption Rate and enhances Fast Cast, but also decreases the duration of enhancing magic. Mutually exclusive with Composure.

BRD - Ability that enhances your next song by +2, and the following song by +1.

COR - Ability that causes your next ranged attack to reset hate towards all players from your target, but also lowers ranged accuracy for that shot.

DNC - Step that reduces Double Attack / Triple Attack / Critical hit rate of your target.

PLD - Job Trait that increases your Parry rate.

DRK - Job Ability that increases damage by 50%, but also increases attack delay by 33%.

RNG - Job Ability that maximizes your next shot's damage regardless of target range.

BLU - Enhance Chain Affinity to greatly extend the Magic Burst effect duration of any skillchain created by your blue magic spells, to increase the usefulness of Burst Affinity.

SAM - Enhance Seigan to drain TP with the first swing of your attack.

[Urteil]

while camping magian NMs i had time to think of an adjustment for every job!

WAR - Ability that greatly extends the skillchain effect of your next Weapon Skill, enhancing the usefulness of Meditate and Reverse Flourish to allow self-Skillchaining.

SMN - Ability that switches Hit Point % between you and your pet.

MNK - Ability that increases Guard rate, but also increases H2H delay.

DRG - Enhance Jump to increase damage with distance from target, but also increases readying delay.

THF - Ability that limits attacks to a single swing, and multiplies damage at the rate of multi-swing hits.

SCH - Main job Scholars able to use Haste / Regen III / Cure V with Accession.

WHM - Job Trait that shortens the duration of negative status effects.

PUP - Occasionally, Job Ability timers will not be reset upon use.

NIN - Ability that enhances magic attack / accuracy for next spell only. If the next spell is ninjutsu, a tool will not be consumed.

BST - Occasionally, pet items will not be consumed.

BLM - Ability that enhances magic attack for next spell only, but increases casting time also.

RDM - Ability that lowers rate of spell interruption rate and enhances Fast Cast, but decreases the duration of enhancing magic. Mutually exclusive with Composure.

BRD - Ability that enhances your next song by +2, and the following song by +1.

COR - Ability that causes your next ranged attack to reset hate towards all players from your target, but lowers ranged accuracy for that shot also.

DNC - Step that reduces Double Attack / Triple Attack / Critical hit rate on your target.

PLD - Job Trait that increases your Parry rate.

DRK - Job Ability that greatly increases attack, but increases attack delay also.

RNG - Job Ability that maximizes your next shot's damage regardless of target range.

BLU - Enhance Chain Affinity to greatly extend the Magic Burst effect duration of any skillchain created by your blue magic spells, enhancing the usefulness of Burst Affinity.

SAM - Enhance Seigan to drain TP with the first swing of your attack.

What is this, I don't even. . .

[Seha]

I could quote them one by one, but I'll just say...god, no.

[Urteil]

I would hope honestly that by now everyone realizes that job abilities that boost the ATK stat at this point are nearly worthless for DRK.


Unless by "ATK" you are talking about a straight % of increased damage dealt or some type of penetration vs damage mitigation.

[Minsc]

SE, please, please just make Insurgency a critical hit weapon skill. If this is not done... I swear to Altana... I will burn my Mog House to the ground, moogle and all! If you care about your fellow moogles, you will make this happen.

That is all.

[StingRay104]

PUP - Occasionally, Job Ability timers will not be reset upon use.

So your idea of making PUP better is by making it worst? EPIC FAILGA is all I can say about your entire post except for this one quote, there just isn;t enough negative words in any language to describe how wrong this is.

[Slycer]

/facepalm

A blm/sch would use manifestation for AoE bind, gravity, and stun in addition to break. Probably not for AoE sleep.

Hydra mobs for instance arent sleepable.

EDIT: also AoE aspir and alacrity sleepga2

BLM/SCH would not have access to gravity.

[Neisan_Quetz]

EDIT: pointed out already, but to Aoe Gravity Sch loses Sleepga without a strategem if it matters. Also /Blm lacks curing utility if it matters as you'll have to switch arts and use up strategems on Addendums.