Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

[Yugl]

If Bravery is over 15% haste, stacking with Haste and Marches, you can Minuet instead of march1 one of those songs.

It's a 2hour, we can assume the Regen is high enough to out perform Regen IV, and/or stacks with Regen IV. Regen IV can already be bumped up to 39HP/tick, which is significant outside Abyssea.

Regain spell+Regain earring would only need 3 ticks of regain to bump Ukon up a xhit assuming the common 6hit builds (which depends, however, on DA, TA, and Retaliation).

However, if it's potency is anything less than posted, it'll be useless.

Or instead of wasting a spot on SCH, you could add another DD. Minuet won't make up for the damage of another WAR or a DRG providing angon (Assuming you didn't have one earlier). Zerg situations usually have AoE healing covered either via PD or Curaga spam. Given that most of the damage during zergs comes from AoE spikes, I doubt regen will make up for that since most of the regen will have no effect (Capped HP melees) and will not regen fast enough. That's assuming the regen beats Regen IV, which is certainly not guaranteed (See Angon v SSJump).

[Leonlionheart]

Or instead of wasting a spot on SCH, you could add another DD. Minuet won't make up for the damage of another WAR or a DRG providing angon (Assuming you didn't have one earlier). Zerg situations usually have AoE healing covered either via PD or Curaga spam. Given that most of the damage during zergs comes from AoE spikes, I doubt regen will make up for that since most of the regen will have no effect (Capped HP melees) and will not regen fast enough. That's assuming the regen beats Regen IV, which is certainly not guaranteed (See Angon v SSJump).

See: Rotations

[Yugl]

See: Rotations

Wouldn't you just rotate another bard then?

Edit: Actually, someone gave me a VERY good use for such a 2hr....

[Tezz]

Brave
Target: Single (Can be made AoE through the use of stratagems)
Effect: Regen + Regain + Haste (Values/duration are under development)
Usage Level: 5~ (Under the effects of Tabula Rasa only)
Skill Type: Enhancing Magic

Interesting for the "Light" side of things. I'm not immediately displeased with this one.
I would hope that this Haste bypasses other forms and even allows beyond the cap, or make the regain actually worth a damn.

Merton
Target: Single (Can be made AoE through the use of stratagems)
Effect: Damage + Damage over Time (DoT effect depends on the initial damage)
Usage Level: 5~ (Under the effects of Tabula Rasa only)
Skill Type: Dark Magic

SE doesn't want us using Helices on enemies, and now they do? This one also just doesn't seem 2hr-worthy, imo. Feels like a quick slap on.

At best it would probably be initial damage comparable to T3~T4 range and a few ticks afterward or active while 2hr is still in effect. I know this isn't classified as Helix, but assuming 8-10~sec/tick = 5-7~ procs while 2hr active.
As long as NM's aren't resisting, it would be great for soloers or for quicker hate-free low man attempts. If good enough, it could also be a sort of mini-brew, but i doubt it.

Finally, it could be a great way to AoE groups of monsters in Abyssea. Relying on 2hr chest spam.

At worst, the initial damage is crap and the procs resisting too much. More monsters making the AoE less & less forcing this method useless.

[Raksha]

There is actually a SCH specific manifesto post. Wonder why they didn't post it there.

Can't say I'm overwhelmed with joy at this info, but I wasn't expecting much to begin with.

[Bayohne]

There is actually a SCH specific manifesto post. Wonder why they didn't post it there.

D'oh! My bad, I searched and didn't find it. Sorry about that. I didn't want to hold onto the information longer than I already had after it was compiled. (I blame Camate, honestly.)

[Korpg]

I blame Camate, honestly.

Doesn't everyone?

[Leonlionheart]

D'oh! My bad, I searched and didn't find it. Sorry about that. I didn't want to hold onto the information longer than I already had after it was compiled. (I blame Camate, honestly.)

lol@Camate

[Coldbrand]

Also please keep the regain an even number that works well with 6 5 4 hit builds so it's actually worth a damn for well geared players. You should also look into this adjustments for the COR roll.

[Coldbrand]

Hahaha, wow. Next we'll have a WAR thread with them asking for more. You'd think the people who got the best JAs coming their way alongside WARs would be happy. I mean, I play SAM and I realize the patch notes spell out loud and clear that it'll resume it's obnoxious status as the bandwagon top tier job again with its playerbase being rude pricks to everyone who isn't one.