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    Player JovialRat's Avatar
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    all i read was : these are what we can offer you guys cause of ps2 limitations.
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  2. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Yet, Great SMNs don't need to melee to still get the kills they need, and can solo harder stuff than Groundskeepers and such.

    But that is besides the point....or is it?
    I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. So BLU being able to do their job from backline means only bad BLUs melee? In Abyssea a DNC can get regain and stand at backlines and heal... is this the superior way over melee for TP?

    If you can do your role in melee range or back line, simply choose what you'd like. I do however suggest against melee range if you expect to die every 30 seconds. But that is a personal opinion of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. So BLU being able to do their job from backline means only bad BLUs melee? In Abyssea a DNC can get regain and stand at backlines and heal... is this the superior way over melee for TP?

    If you can do your role in melee range or back line, simply choose what you'd like. I do however suggest against melee range if you expect to die every 30 seconds. But that is a personal opinion of mine.
    Mala tbh the argument for SMNmelee, is the exact same as an argument for backline DNC. Trying to play a job in a role where it's weakest and wasn't built for in the first place. Although it is weird you never see a melee gear for backline and expect to be viable there.

    Not saying mages shouldn't melee if they want when the situation allows. People with sense(like you seem to have) should be able to play the way they want, if it's not too determiental to the goal.
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    Last edited by Razushu; 07-22-2011 at 07:01 AM.

    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    Mala tbh the argument for SMNmelee, is the exact same as an argument for backline DNC or BLU. Trying to play a job in a role where it's weakest and wasn't built for in the first place. Although it is weird you never see a melee gear for backline and expect to be viable there.

    Not saying mages shouldn't melee if they want when the situation allows. People with sense(like you seem to have) should be able to play the way they want, if it's not too determiental to the goal.
    Hold the phone. Backline BLU can, in some cases, be amazing. It actually cures FANTASTIC outside of abyssea, with the most MP efficient cure in the game. Well cures better than SMN RDM SCH anyway, if you're fully geared for cure.
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  5. #235
    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Hold the phone. Backline BLU can, in some cases, be amazing. It actually cures FANTASTIC outside of abyssea, with the most MP efficient cure in the game. Well cures better than SMN RDM SCH anyway, if you're fully geared for cure.
    My apologies. Statement revoked.
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  6. #236
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. So BLU being able to do their job from backline means only bad BLUs melee?
    Considering that you have to be at least 5 yards away from the mob for most physical damage spells to work, and the essence of being a melee is to be within range to swing a weapon, then yeah, being in the back means you are a bad melee, regardless of the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Considering that you have to be at least 5 yards away from the mob for most physical damage spells to work, and the essence of being a melee is to be within range to swing a weapon, then yeah, being in the back means you are a bad melee, regardless of the job.
    lol whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite
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  8. #238
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    My apologies. Statement revoked.
    You'll find like 3 BLUs ever who actually gear for it, so it's really uncommon. But I thoroughly enjoy BLU curing outside abyssea, with proper refresh.
    The set is very specific though, as it requires Add on hat and legs to be aug'd with cure potency to really shine.
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    Cannonball spamming blus weren't THAT rare were they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
    Cannonball spamming blus weren't THAT rare were they?
    Maybe on 75 content, and only a few mobs, but now? Not even thought of.
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