[Job Adjustmentｓ Manifesto] RDM Suggestions

[Concerned4FFxi]

i think cure 5 would rob whm since all that job does is cure and buff, so no rdm sch cure 5 please. on a brighter note i'd like to see rdm get tier 3 enfeebles and en-pells. The 75 merits for para/slow/blind2 would be changed to paralyze enffebing magic boast, blind magic booast. etc, thereby giving a generic modifier to all tier paralyze or whatever spell relates. Or, at 99, you could get a 99merit for paralyze that effects or improves paraylze two, etc. The en-spells need adjustment no matter what. Pld and Drk have a potent en-spell, its time duelists recieve there due. Also, a more power version of our spike spells would be nice, such as a tier 2. And for those who compain and cure 5, we still get cure 4 without a sub job. I'd also like to see some fencing aromor for rdm, something that goes with the job discription

[Aurara]

God you're so infuriating. You take the highest assumptions for every statement instead of using common sense.

itzpapalotl, zone boss.
Glavoid, zone boss.
Chloris, AoE Doom, Can be paralyzed, slowed, silenced, blinded and elegied.
Apademak, Inflicts Weakness
Pantokrator, ... It's Omega, comon.
Tunga is usually kite/nuke mob.
Ulhuadshi... another sandworm mob.

Perhaps you're not getting it. Melee Fodder, Magic Bosses. Everything you listed with the exception of Trunga and Chloris is HNM/Boss material. They all have AoEs that give even the melee classes reason to pause. That's the drawing line.

(As a note, I would not TP any of the above on BLU.)

Except I did exactly as you told me, and told you the mobs i fight.

[Rayik]

Except I did exactly as you told me, and told you the mobs i fight.

But you don't melee in any way shape or form, and you completely missed the criteria he described in which melee is ok. So, swing and a miss.

EDIT: So you never fight anything else other than Abyssea's toughest NM's? How do you even get the KI/PI's if they are the only things you fight? Serious question.

[Aurara]

Take a look at the monsters your fighting and ask yourself two questions:

Is your Blue Mage, Theif(non tanking) , or Puppetmaster Tping on them?
Do you have a White Mage, Dancer, or Scholar in the party?
(In Abyssea there's a third: Have procs been made?)

If the answer to these questions is yes, then you can Melee, and probably should. The faster the monster dies, the better.

Rayik let me break it down for you

Lets use Apademak for example:
1. No, my BLU THF nor PUP is TPing on them
2.We have a WHM, but not a SCH or DNC
3.No, procs have not been made because its apademak and proccing is stupid. Combine that with the fact that apademak levels up and fulms you if somebody dies(hi you or a melee because you feed it stupid amounts of TP). Protip btw Hyrist, it only weakens you if you fight it wrong, and clearly you do with that statement.

[Rayik]

Rayik let me break it down for you

Lets use Apademak for example:
1. No, my BLU THF nor PUP is TPing on them
2.We have a WHM, but not a SCH or DNC
3.No, procs have not been made because its apademak and proccing is stupid. Combine that with the fact that apademak levels up and fulms you if somebody dies(hi you or a melee because you feed it stupid amounts of TP). Protip btw Hyrist, it only weakens you if you fight it wrong, and clearly you do with that statement.

Completely missed again. 0/2. Read the comment you quoted.

[Aurara]

I did...lol
Edit: According to that a RDM should be meleeing because you have a whm.

[Doombringer]

i think he means all 3. like a checklist. if any 1 is no, you abort mission.

[Rayik]

I did...lol
Edit: According to that a RDM should be meleeing because you have a whm.

Still no, because you said yourself that "No, my BLU THF nor PUP is TPing on them" either. Strike 3! Yer outta here! *crowd noise*

In case you haven't noticed, I'm having fun with ya. If I were trying to be completely aggressive or insulting, I would be using a bunch of curse-words and yo' mamma jokes.

[Aurara]

EDIT: So you never fight anything else other than Abyssea's toughest NM's? How do you even get the KI/PI's if they are the only things you fight? Serious question.

I never said I ONLY fight those NMs, you're putting words in my mouth. I AoE mobs for KI/Pop items(in the case of Orthrus, Alfard and Apademak). But you fail to see that we proc then kill. Mobs dont live long enough for a RDM to get to 100% TP. When you have 2 Ukons, Vereth, and Kannagi nin(obviously not in the same pt or there ALL the time for every kill) Mobs usually die before red or yellow wears making RDM melee pointless.

[Rayik]

I never said I ONLY fight those NMs, you're putting words in my mouth. I AoE mobs for KI/Pop items(in the case of Orthrus, Alfard and Apademak). But you fail to see that we proc then kill. Mobs dont live long enough for a RDM to get to 100% TP. When you have 2 Ukons, Vereth, and Kannagi nin(obviously not in the same pt or there ALL the time for every kill) Mobs usually die before red or yellow wears making RDM melee pointless.

You said that's what you fight, so I was just asking. If you share a group with that many empy's, just think what you could do with an Almace, it would be pretty awesome.