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[Cream_Soda]

Everyone can lot, anyone can enter. It's kind of hard to tell people they have to play by your set of rules when there's nothing to stop them from not. Again, it's not perfect the way it is now, but essentially making it like old Dynamis is just going to cause a different kind of monster.

Ok, so it's stopping people from leeching then? That your only complaint?

Because any organized group, even with the current system, whether you shout or go with a ls will have some sort of lotting system when they enter.

Just because randoms and lot on everything, doesn't mean everyone in the organized group does.

For example, i want coin of glory. I join a shout group and the leader has advancement locked. Some random comes in and lots on glory who wasn't part of the group and wins. That doesn't mean that I'm going to lot advancement now when that drops.

[Andevom]

Ok, so it's stopping people from leeching then? That your only complaint?

I never made this claim. Actually, the fact that it doesn't stop people form leeching IS a problem, which is why it needs some kind of incentive for people to actively participate (hence my suggestion of giving everyone a chest if they pull their weight). The current system stops people from creating a strict set of rules that causes a ton of people to have to wait longer to get their coins. Which is good; there's enough of this in other events.

Because any organized group, even with the current system, whether you shout or go with a ls will have some sort of lotting system when they enter.

Just because randoms and lot on everything, doesn't mean everyone in the organized group does.

My point is that this doesn't need to be heavily organized at all. It can be like campaign, where you just go and do it.

For example, i want coin of glory. I join a shout group and the leader has advancement locked. Some random comes in and lots on glory who wasn't part of the group and wins. That doesn't mean that I'm going to lot advancement now when that drops.

But see, under the current system, the leader can't lock in advancement to start with. And he shouldn't be able to anyway, really. I'm sorry, I'm in favor of people being able to enter the event and try their luck at getting the coins. Everyone's on equal footing going in that way. But the main issue is people who go in and leech. I don't think the solution to this is make it like Dynamis. It's too drastic.

So, going back to the campaign example, maybe you have it so people join something comparable to a union in WoE. You help out, you get access to the spoils. You sit around and leech, you get nothing. This was such a good reward system that hasn't been implemented anywhere else. I know that nothing like this is being proposed at the moment (option 1 is the closest), but with some tweaking to the system, you can easily make it so leechers don't benefit as much.