WoEs

[Jerynh]

When I did WoE, nobody shouted for groups, no LS's came in and did a zone, it was thrown together groups. The majority did the slime one, sometimes the crabs or ants when it wasn't available. I met very few bad apples in my time. Almost everyone who came in joined up with the mash-up of people already in, did their part, and reaped the benefits. Nobody I saw literally just went in, sat there, and lotted at the end. Thats the worst way to get coins. The best way is to fight for one of the top 5 slots. I vote keep it the way it is, and progress from there. I don't have a lot of friends on the game, I'd like to be able to keep joining up with randoms easily if for whatever reason I need to go back in there.

[Sparthos]

The reason why the old system doesn't work is because of the leeching mentality and because the drops are pure garbage compared to Abyssea. Even @80, most of the Walk drops were either directly in competition with Vision drops or were minor sidegrades.

Reservation gives pick up groups and linkshells the ability to bring into the run who they want and work out distribution the way they see fit without distractions from lone wolves.

The problems with current WoE is multi-faceted and in need of significant adjustment. Monsters need to be susceptible to enfeebles like Sleep, Bind and Gravity, boss monsters need to stop randomly patrolling unless they follow obvious patterns and coins need to be equivalent to old-Dynamis currency in frequency of drop rates.

Reservation beats randomly smashing together people every time. If you're planning a run of randoms, I don't see why you simply cannot reserve the chamber and do what you do now.

[Kenthedeviant]

Reservation gives pick up groups and linkshells the ability to bring into the run who they want and work out distribution the way they see fit without distractions from lone wolves.

Reservation beats randomly smashing together people every time. If you're planning a run of randoms, I don't see why you simply cannot reserve the chamber and do what you do now.

Great idea! until YOU and your ls wants to enter and various solo players keep reserving it and locking you out... Preventing you from even having a chance to enter. Yeah, accomplishes a lot, huh? The other reason you wont be able to "do what you do now" is that if we're only able to enter once per RL day if option 2 goes though, then we wont be able to spam it like we do now. WoE is hard enough as is, and if we can only enter once per day, solo/duo/trio options will basically be eliminated entirely, because a solo player cannot accomplish squat in a mere 30 minutes per day in WoE (despite what a lot of delusional players may think).

[svengalis]

Give us abyssea buff npc in woe and it solves everyone's problems.

[Cream_Soda]

My point is that this doesn't need to be heavily organized at all. It can be like campaign, where you just go and do it.

For farming single mobs? Sure

For clearing runs, definitely not.

[Olor]

I vote for 1 because I hate only being able to do an event once a day. The way I like to do something is say "okay I am doing X today" and then I spend the whole day doing that - not just 30 mins or whatever.

Also I think there are better ways to stop people from leeching that don't either

a) make it so if you want to solo you lock the rest of your server out of the zone
b) make it impossible to solo

Soloers should be able to do the event too, and I don't see that working with a reservation system.

[Ravenmore]

I vote for 1 because I hate only being able to do an event once a day. The way I like to do something is say "okay I am doing X today" and then I spend the whole day doing that - not just 30 mins or whatever.

Also I think there are better ways to stop people from leeching that don't either

a) make it so if you want to solo you lock the rest of your server out of the zone
b) make it impossible to solo

Soloers should be able to do the event too, and I don't see that working with a reservation system.

I think your not getting what soloer means in this event, 90% of the time the soloers are stalking a LS or 2 and crashing the LS runs. Now if a LS shows up and enter after a true soloer had already went in and been farming for a bit but before the 50% cut off then they get what they get what they get.

[Jacs]

I think your not getting what soloer means in this event, 90% of the time the soloers are stalking a LS or 2 and crashing the LS runs. Now if a LS shows up and enter after a true soloer had already went in and been farming for a bit but before the 50% cut off then they get what they get what they get.

That just isn't fair or true. Maybe on your server but not on mine. Much more common on my server is a whole load of just random people coming to solo. You see LS groups very rarely.

The biggest problem with WOE is the open loot pool. You could solve a bunch of the problems in WOE just by clearing that up Random people screwing up your strategy isn't quite as much a problem. My play schedule is sporadic and often for only an hour at a time, so I can't always organize a group. Hopefully SE makes this thing instanced, otherwise its going to be a lot of single people locking up zones, which is going to be a massive problem too.

[Ravenmore]

That just isn't fair or true. Maybe on your server but not on mine. Much more common on my server is a whole load of just random people coming to solo. You see LS groups very rarely.

The biggest problem with WOE is the open loot pool. You could solve a bunch of the problems in WOE just by clearing that up Random people screwing up your strategy isn't quite as much a problem. My play schedule is sporadic and often for only an hour at a time, so I can't always organize a group. Hopefully SE makes this thing instanced, otherwise its going to be a lot of single people locking up zones, which is going to be a massive problem too.

Nope this is why LSs stop bothing to do it after the first couple of weeks. As soon as they said it would work like campaign for personal chest peoplle knew what to do and what job to go on to lock in a chest.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Why do people think that the lotting rules alone are what is chasing away endgame linkshells? Why would any group capable of dominating any WoE battlefield not instead spend their time dominating Abyssea bosses for the sake of actual empyrean weapons?

Again, why do people feel that WoE will magically become more popular than Limbus and Einherjar?