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  1. #71
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    You don't need windower for anything short of achieving perfection. You don't need it to be "good." You don't need it to be "better." You only "need" it to be number one in the whole entire game. For the 99.99999% of everyone who is more realistic than you are, windower is not a "requirement" to be a high end player. If you adjust well enough to the crap factor of the interface, you can perform just the same as any windower user without it; you just might have to press more buttons.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 07-02-2011 at 03:43 PM.

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    You can be a good player without Windower. I never said you couldn't. In fact, I specifically said you could.

    But no matter who you are, or how good you are, you would, invariably, be better with Windower. Every single time.
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    Last edited by Greatguardian; 07-02-2011 at 03:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    You can be a good player without Windower. I never said you couldn't. In fact, I specifically said you could.

    But no matter who you are, or how good you are, you would, invariably, be better with Windower. Every single time.
    Especially if you utilize spellcast to its full potential. Above all other plugins, this alone can make the hugest difference. As I said, it can, spellcast doesn't doesn't make everyone better just because they have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    While out-side Abyssea content could focus on New End-game Events and new Armors/Weapons/upgrades/Etc, Back to the good old days of Dragging along 17 other people who want to lot the same stuff as you, and spending 2 years on the same event simply because the one guy hasn't gotten the 0.005% Drop of that 1 NM. you know, Challenge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    you can perform just the same as any windower user without it; you just might have to press more buttons.
    If you actually swapped as much as gear as you should, you would know this isn't actually the case. You end up fighting the interface and juggling macros so intensely that it hinders your focus on the actual gameplay, windower and spellcast relieves that.
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    You can also use a G15(or what ever the current one is now) key board, it takes a bit of trial and error and playing with delay time between the keys your binding but you can get it were you swap all your gear and swap back to a TP set. Is it easy not realy is it out there and is appoved by SE yes. So only way for SE to know for sure you are using windower is either you stand in town and shout it, since just changing all your gear could simply mean you have hardware to do it.
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    You know, I'm surprised this thread has gone as long as it has.

    Even though there really isn't anything wrong with windower, Square-Enix has been adamant about the usage of third party tools and for this to go on for 8 pages without being deleted/completely erased is beyond me.
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    Yeah kinda shock to. Considering that alla and the like lock threads taking about windower because of SE.
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    Except FFXIAH.com and BG, they are all about using third party tools.

    Of course, when you have one of the first developers as the admin on ffxiah.com, of course they would want to push their products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Except FFXIAH.com and BG, they are all about using third party tools.

    Of course, when you have one of the first developers as the admin on ffxiah.com, of course they would want to push their products.
    This assumption is baseless and wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNK View Post
    That's what someone said about how many people who used the Salvage exploit and they're all still here..... owait...
    Just to quote you SNK, but SE in the past has been fiercely adamant about banning the mess out of anyone who manipulates the economy via duping. That's basically what happened with Salvage; the same thing happened to people in 2004-2005 who duped K-Clubs via the Trade bug, and with the first people who got to Tav Safehold and used the NPCs that bought gear back for amounts higher than what they sold for.

    I'm sure the 3rd party Windower in itself is a problem for them in which they simply enacted a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy after they implemented SE's Windowed version to cut down on GM calls. IIRC, a few years ago SE added a packet of coding that tracked Windower users with a version update-- they probably found that a good deal many of people use it to the extent they could lose money if they went on a banning spree.
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