Banned for Windower?

[Greatguardian]

People can definitely still suck with Windower.

People can be good without Windower.

But no one, on any server, at any level, from any background, speaking any language, in any reality will ever be performing at their best without it.

Why? Windower makes good players better. And everyone will always have room to get better.

[Alhanelem]

You don't need windower for anything short of achieving perfection. You don't need it to be "good." You don't need it to be "better." You only "need" it to be number one in the whole entire game. For the 99.99999% of everyone who is more realistic than you are, windower is not a "requirement" to be a high end player. If you adjust well enough to the crap factor of the interface, you can perform just the same as any windower user without it; you just might have to press more buttons.

[Alienmonkey]

you can perform just the same as any windower user without it; you just might have to press more buttons.

If you actually swapped as much as gear as you should, you would know this isn't actually the case. You end up fighting the interface and juggling macros so intensely that it hinders your focus on the actual gameplay, windower and spellcast relieves that.

[Greatguardian]

You can be a good player without Windower. I never said you couldn't. In fact, I specifically said you could.

But no matter who you are, or how good you are, you would, invariably, be better with Windower. Every single time.

[Fiarlia]

You can be a good player without Windower. I never said you couldn't. In fact, I specifically said you could.

But no matter who you are, or how good you are, you would, invariably, be better with Windower. Every single time.

Especially if you utilize spellcast to its full potential. Above all other plugins, this alone can make the hugest difference. As I said, it can, spellcast doesn't doesn't make everyone better just because they have it.

[Ravenmore]

You can also use a G15(or what ever the current one is now) key board, it takes a bit of trial and error and playing with delay time between the keys your binding but you can get it were you swap all your gear and swap back to a TP set. Is it easy not realy is it out there and is appoved by SE yes. So only way for SE to know for sure you are using windower is either you stand in town and shout it, since just changing all your gear could simply mean you have hardware to do it.

[Korpg]

You know, I'm surprised this thread has gone as long as it has.

Even though there really isn't anything wrong with windower, Square-Enix has been adamant about the usage of third party tools and for this to go on for 8 pages without being deleted/completely erased is beyond me.

[Zirael]

You know, I'm surprised this thread has gone as long as it has.

Even though there really isn't anything wrong with windower, Square-Enix has been adamant about the usage of third party tools and for this to go on for 8 pages without being deleted/completely erased is beyond me.

I think these days SE are much more keen about improving their game for their customer's liking. I don't think I would know a company that, knowing their product is lacking, wouldn't pay a close attention to it's customers's tinkering and struggle to make it usable to current standards and their needs (ie having fun playing and not having to fight with clunky interface all the time). Sure, SE is very keen on preserving equal gaming experience across all the platforms and I very much appreciate their resolve and respect it, but at the same time they, themselves realise this suffocates growth of their product. SE said several times on these forums regarding simple improvements we asked for (bigger/better managed item inventory, IME keyboard etc and so on) that they would like to, but "spaghetti code" or "PS2 limitations".
To be honest, given their strict view on player equality and fairness, I'm constantly surprised all the windower community doesn't get banned. At the same time I'm surprised PS2 hasn't been dropped yet. I suppose either would hurt significant part of their customers so maybe SE isn't sure they wouldn't look silly by doing that (silly as in a company turning their back to their own loyal customers).
SE has obligations to PS2 users to keep the promise "you can play our game on this platform", they have made. At the same time they need to take responsibility for the crippled state of the PC version. And they might not have a solution to either problem.
Well, FF14 was supposed to be that solution ("hey, you can move to the new and improved FF!") but SE had to take responsibility for their product once again and FF14 has been free to play beta for almost a year now.
Find a solution to these problems and I bet you'll get a chair among their board if not CEO's seat

PS: Sorry if this text makes no sense, I've written it multitasking several things ~.~

[Ravenmore]

Yeah kinda shock to. Considering that alla and the like lock threads taking about windower because of SE.

[Korpg]

Except FFXIAH.com and BG, they are all about using third party tools.

Of course, when you have one of the first developers as the admin on ffxiah.com, of course they would want to push their products.