A Ninja without Throwing...

[Bulrogg]

Now, let me have my Utsusemi clones come out for X amount of time like that one Campaign NPC does, then we'll talk about adding RP elements to NIN.

Believe it!! I so envy Kagetora and Hundredfaced Hapool Ja. It would be cool to have some clones. Then they could throw shurikens with me!

Seriously though, I don't know why everyone else is thinking that everyone who is for throwing is only for it because they're wanting to stand there and spam shurikens for RP purposes. Yes we know throwing will never match meleeing. We aren't trying to make it match either. We just don't want to see it forgotten by the devs en-route from 90 > 99. That is all.

[Korpg]

If they can give every job throwing WSs, there would be such a huge demand for the directional "winds" that you get from sky gods.

Imagine doing a Sidewinder-type WS with a 250 damage weapon. Yeah....

I'm surprised that you can't do EES with those "wind" throwing weapons anyway.

Anyway, enough trolling from me. In all seriousness about this topic, everyone is right about throwing stuff being gimp compared to a NIN's DoT. Those that want to throw stuff, go ahead. Not going to kill me if you do. Just don't blame anyone but yourself if you see your damage over time go down significantly.

[Andrien]

If you take your time and look at all the AF1 gears for Ninja, you'll notice it is the best range acc and ranged attack gears for the job. Take note that most of the shurikens you see today are from RoTZ expansion too. The point I'm trying to make here is that we do need improvements for throwing.

How about a throwing kunai like Scorpion uses in Mortal Kombat for pulling. Now you can pull a single mob without getting links, and you can reuse the same kunai!

I really honestly think we'll benefit more from a throwing weapon skill though. Ninja was intended to throw stuff and use guns..

[Cruentus]

I have an idea. Why not just make a Rare and Exclusive returning throwing weapon that only ninjas can use? You could make it drop from one of the higher-tier Voidwatch NMs, or from Yilbegan. Give it, say, DMG:230 Delay:130 or something. Also make it a rare drop, even with triggers. That way, people who want to make throwing weapons a mainstay on ninjas can work hard toward getting that weapon, and call it done.

That, or add a brand new shuriken that beats the koga shuriken and is easier to get. But then you'd have to make sure ninjas didn't outdo rangers on ranged attacks.

[Paksenarrion]

Believe it!!

I see what you did there.

[Duelle]

You want throwing then make it an auto attack similar to MNK's kick attacks. Use shuriken like ninja tools or cor cards. let them be expended. Based on the shuriken stats that could influence dmg or have the damage tied in some way to your main hand weapon.

I like this idea.

[Bulrogg]

As mentioned in the Realistic-Job-adjustments-wants thread, I like the idea of adding a Job Trait: Shurkien Attack which would have a chance to proc like a MNKs Kick Attack. There could be gear to help enhance the job trait but don't tie the trait usage to the range/ammo slot to we can continue to use gear for those slots as we see fit.

[Nacht]

I have an idea. Why not just make a Rare and Exclusive returning throwing weapon that only ninjas can use? You could make it drop from one of the higher-tier Voidwatch NMs, or from Yilbegan. Give it, say, DMG:230 Delay:130 or something. Also make it a rare drop, even with triggers. That way, people who want to make throwing weapons a mainstay on ninjas can work hard toward getting that weapon, and call it done.

And it can attack 2-8 times when you do 1 /ra.

[Bulrogg]

Which is true, but no one is trying to make throwing equal to the damage from meleeing.

[Andrien]

We got to think outside abyssea and all the atma boost, because abyssea expansions are done.

But consider this, Ninja shuriken when thrown actually hits harder than a single katana melee hit. So what if Ninja gets an ability that allows them to only throw but faster twice or even triple throw instead. Similar to the MNK ability that lets them kick only. Ninja can now throw quicker twice in a row or triple.

Lv99 is still some levels away so i'm sure they can make new gears, weapons and abilities that could fit all this.


thoughts?