Player-Created Content Proposal for 2.0

Greetings!

It's been a while since I last posted here, but I thought it would be worth discussing this particular subject. With the demise of Star Wars Galaxies, I shed a tear for the innovative ways SWG approached player interaction with the game world.

However, I feel FFXIV has a chance to revive some elements of what SWG accomplished, with FFXIV 2.0. Below is a list of features I'd like to see implemented in FFXIV, either for expansion or as a later patch after 2.0 is implemented:

• Programmable Storyteller NPCs. (For player-run events & storylines, you use programmable tokens to create and spawn the NPC - there are two kinds of NPCs: Combat and Non Combat)
• Programmable Quests & Dungeons. (You earn tokens from the mobs you kill, and those tokens can be used in a quest creator to add that mob to your customized quest)
• Rentable venues for player events.

It's pretty straightforward. For Storyteller NPCs, you could program your tokens to spawn three Garlean Centurions with your own lines of dialogue, and set them with certain behaviors - patrol, engage on sight, talk on sight, etc.

For programmable quests, you earn tokens from the mobs you kill. So let's say you've killed 10 Marmots, and you earned 5 Marmot tokens. You kill Ifrit as well, and earn one Ifrit token. You can use those tokens to create a customized questline using those NPCs as "targets" for the players to take down. This also includes player-customizable dialogue.

Rentable venues would be instanced zones that would have a guest list - filterable by guild, linkshell, and individual.

And so on.

What do you think?

I think it's a Great idea!
Does this affect Character growth? I believe it shouldn't, because it's fun content deep inside, but certainly it will be a good distraction from the monotonous activities of many of us =)

This sounds great, we can only hope.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

I think it's a Great idea!
Does this affect Character growth? I believe it shouldn't, because it's fun content deep inside, but certainly it will be a good distraction from the monotonous activities of many of us =)

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The custom quests can affect character growth like any other side quest. However Storyline NPCs would not give up EXP. The whole point of this proposal is to have content that we, the players, can create to share with others.

For example, let's say I want to do a storyline event, once a week, that involves a Goblin and a bunch of Garlean soldiers chasing after him!

Week 1 would have the participating players meet the Goblin as he is being accosted by the Garleans, and you rescue him! He then gives you a special item. Maybe a specially-named Materia that does nothing (storyline prop!). He tells you to go see NPC "X" at a hovel. You go to said hovel and learn the purpose of said Materia. You then encounter one of the Garlean Centurions part of the group that is pursuing said materia. Boss battle! Defeat him, get some coolness points.

That's just a snippet, and an example. What do you think? And yes, Star Wars Galaxies made this possible. There's no reason any other MMO that seeks to gain an edge over the market shouldn't include this system.

Ho, ho! I am liking this one! I wish it could happen.

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Originally Posted by Leira_Raine

Ho, ho! I am liking this one! I wish it could happen.

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It will, if we can flesh out the system and present it to Yoshi-P, and get enough support to back it. It would be great for linkshell and guild events, to keep steady interest in the game.

The key to a lasting game experience that keeps you coming back for more is one that never stays the same. And this can be done through the creativity of the players.

Player created content is the worst created content.

It will not work.

I'd like to see this implemented, only after 2.0 though. It will be when the world will be fully developed and we will be able to create our stories with as much story tracks as possible.

Yeah, by affecting character growth I meant for the character getting EXP killing enemies, but that shouldn't be a problem if the monsters give a not that much influencing EXP. Coolness points could be used to unlock more NPCs and quest items to build the story, or you can just be greedy and keep those to have a little something that helps your adventuring.

I like it!

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Originally Posted by Renshi

I'd like to see this implemented, only after 2.0 though. It will be when the world will be fully developed and we will be able to create our stories with as much story tracks as possible.

Yeah, by affecting character growth I meant for the character getting EXP killing enemies, but that shouldn't be a problem if the monsters give a not that much influencing EXP. Coolness points could be used to unlock more NPCs and quest items to build the story, or you can just be greedy and keep those to have a little something that helps your adventuring.

I like it!

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Yep. I'd like to see this get to Yoshi-P's desk soon, though. Just so he knows about the concept.

I'm not expecting features like this in the next two years, but it would be nice. XD

I also think this is a good idea. It could be used to develop more culturally rich Linkshells, with there own story and initiations. As well as personal stories that you could share with your friends and strangers alike. /thumbsup

So far, this one is one of the best idea I've ever found on the forums. I really like it and I certainly hope the development team would give it some thought.

It's a interesting concept, but I have a hard time seeing this implemented in a game such as FFXIV. Partly because when you say

"Hey this is kind of how a DEAD MMO did things."

Also players these days want a reward for doing...well anything it seems they can hardly walk from point A-B without crying if someone doesn't hand them a gold crown at the end of the journey across the hall. So such a "Custom quest system" would need a reward system in place to be used...and in such fashion players would ignore the entire "Point" of such a system and just find a way to short-cut the whole thing for the best reward.

Tough balancing act, it seems like a feature you would need to work on from the get-go to integrate into the game foundation and as such I doubt we will see it in XIV.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Also players these days want a reward for doing...well anything it seems they can hardly walk from point A-B without crying if someone doesn't hand them a gold crown at the end of the journey across the hall. So such a "Custom quest system" would need a reward system in place to be used...and in such fashion players would ignore the entire "Point" of such a system and just find a way to short-cut the whole thing for the best reward.

Tough balancing act, it seems like a feature you would need to work on from the get-go to integrate into the game foundation and as such I doubt we will see it in XIV.

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The point of is system like this is not to replace the quest and stories of FFXIV, but to add depth and lore to our community. You would be in no way required to do them, and the rewards if any should have no real effect on the game. In fact I think any reward given should come from the quest giver such as gil or items, that way it uses gil and items already in circulation. As to how difficult it would be to implement, i say revamping a graphics engine for scratch is much harder.

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

...[*]Programmable Quests & Dungeons.
...[*]Rentable venues for player events.
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I would see programmable dungeons being possible, to a limited extent, as it is remisicent of moblin maze mongers in ff11. It would be basically like "make your own leve quest". I enjoy the more arena type possibilities that could come out of this. You could program NM fights in succession. Good training for LS members and good fun ;o

Rentable venues is an interesting idea. While in SWG it was up to players to "rent" venues to others, theres no reason the community here cant do the same. It does however boil down to how Yoshi-P constructs the player estates (will he take a narrow minded approach and stay close to mog houses, or will he think on a more macro level like SWG where you had amenities and other buildings available in player constructed areas - i assume the free companies will have to work hard to erect larger guild halls whereas the smaller companies or single players will settle for their own small houses)

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Originally Posted by Jynx

It's a interesting concept, but I have a hard time seeing this implemented in a game such as FFXIV. Partly because when you say

"Hey this is kind of how a DEAD MMO did things."

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It's a "Dead" MMO because LucasArts told SOE to shut it down so they could force as many users as they could towards swTOR. I don't really appreciate you putting down SWG like that.

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Originally Posted by Xahjk

The point of is system like this is not to replace the quest and stories of FFXIV, but to add depth and lore to our community. You would be in no way required to do them, and the rewards if any should have no real effect on the game. In fact I think any reward given should come from the quest giver such as gil or items, that way it uses gil and items already in circulation. As to how difficult it would be to implement, i say revamping a graphics engine for scratch is much harder.

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This is exactly what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

I don't really appreciate you putting down SWG like that.

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The game was dead long before SWTOR, was it still running? Yes was it still maintaining any semblance of a subscriber base? No. Game had reports of sub-10k users back in 2006 let alone what terrible numbers it was pulling in 2011.

Before someone asks, yes I consider XIV "Dead" But I have faith it can bounce back.

I like the idea in general but... as with everything, players will find ways to abuse it. *spawns Ifrit near newbiezone*