Crafters have no right to get their own Chocobos

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

You do have the right to fight for this. The question now would be would you be willing to level up a battle class to aquire the chocobo, be it doing leves or by being power-levelled?

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Didn't I say "I'm willing to level my r10 something archer" and ask for help to power leveling me?

A Hypothetical example of the current situation:

Let's say in Patch 1.21, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them a "Return Ring". It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Crafting Guild, ranked up beyond Recruit and costs 3000 Guild Points.

I would not cry foul, unfair, discrimination. I would rank at least 1 craft to 25 (22 is highest now) so that I can get the "Return Ring" since any class can use it.

Do not be surprised to see much more "content" like this in the future. There will be perks for every class that will make you jealous and want to level that class to get it, whether it be an item or Class Ability.

Also, don't forget that DoW/M already have to level multiple Classes (that perhaps they hate) just to get the desired Cross-Class Abilities. It is the way the whole Armoury System was set up in the first place.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

cool, long live dungeon gear.

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even crafted gear has a repair level......... here is my exact post read it again.

"i'll throw in another if your crafting rank on a craft is not high enough ,that is required to repair, then they should not be able to wear that gear. "

every piece of gear in the game, minus undies, has a required rank to repair. so your r50 drops still have a r40 rank to repair them.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

Didn't I say "I'm willing to level my r10 something archer" and ask for help to power leveling me?

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I was just checking. If you're willing to compromise in some way in order to gain a personal chocobo there shouldn't be much of a problem. If you're in a LS I'm sure there'll be someone in it that will give you a hand, or someone here on the forums that can help.

As the case may be you're the first craft-only person to post in this thread regarding this and you've accepted that levelling a battle class is the easiest option at the moment. Hopefully the ones argueing about this will see how people are willing to work around the problem and stop their argueing.

Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Davorok

A Hypothetical example of the current situation:

Let's say in Patch 1.21, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them a "Return Ring". It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Crafting Guild, ranked up beyond Recruit and costs 3000 Guild Points.

I would not cry foul, unfair, discrimination. I would rank at least 1 craft to 25 (22 is highest now) so that I can get the "Return Ring" since any class can use it.

Do not be surprised to see much more "content" like this in the future. There will be perks for every class that will make you jealous and want to level that class to get it, whether it be an item or Class Ability.

Also, don't forget that DoW/M already have to level multiple Classes (that perhaps they hate) just to get the desired Cross-Class Abilities. It is the way the whole Armoury System was set up in the first place.

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How about at 1.19 patch, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them to breed the chocobo, It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Chocobo Breeding Guild. Will pure battle class cry for it? Think before you answer it.

This effects about 10 people. My sympathy is busy elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

I don't have battle class above rank 25. I'm a fisher and alchemist, so do I have the right to fight to get my chocobo? I'm willing to level my r10 something archer, please power level me. Do you have the time for it?

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Ah, finally.

Before anything, let me say I respect your decision in playing only DoL/H classes - or perhaps simply primarily. I do, however, question it. Also I want to point out that at this point I will no longer take any post that brings up the initial FFXIV promise of having DoL/H and DoW/M on equal standards seriously. That has been adequately answered multiple times.

There a couple simple things players need to understand:

DoH/L classes are now considered support classes, and are not on equal terms with battle classes. Content is primarily made for battle classes, whereas crafting/gathering content is primarily made so DoL/H can further mingle with battle classes. This much has been officially confirmed.

The chocobos being implemented at this time are of 2 categories: rental chocobos and Grand Company issued chocobos. Rental chocobos are a form of transportation available to all players regardless of class choice. Grand Company issued chocobos are premier chocobos being rewarded to players who enlist in Grand Companies. These Companies, by definition, are armies representing each of the city-states and thus only enlist battle-ready players. Furthermore, the actual Grand Company issued chocobos have been officially confirmed to be intended for battle purposes in the future, with cavalry combat as well as chocobo armor in exchange for GC seals being content that are over the horizon.

Given such circumstances, it makes little sense for DoH/L class levels to be considered for acquiring a GC issue chocobo.

That being said, I feel the root of the controversy is that despite the large amount of content any player who refuses to rank battle classes will miss out on, personal chocobos are something they simply must partake in. As it stands, there are two ways for them to experience it:

1. Quickly level a battle class to 25, join a GC and get their chocobo.
2. Wait for the inevitable chocobo breeding system and make do with rentals until then.

The act of demanding content meant to reward a specific kind of effort by putting forth an alternate kind of effort will not serve a constructive purpose.

As for power leveling you, I suggest you start with your immediate allies and friends in game before expanding to ask people on the forums. It is an MMO after all, I expect you to have people you regularly play together with. Yoshi-P has also officially stated that he has nothing against a certain degree of power leveling.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

How about at 1.19 patch, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them to breed the chocobo, It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Chocobo Breeding Guild. Will pure battle class cry for it? Think before you answer it.

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you would have to look at that overall situation too though.

if it took a dol to get into the guild and they raised their chocobo. this chocobo is faster and better than the company chocobo in every way. the dol in the guild cannot trade or sell that chocobo. nobody else would be able to get that bred chocobo besides them then, yes, they would complain.

they are already in another thread complaining that 5-slotted crafted gear may turn out to be the best in the game.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

How about at 1.19 patch, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them to breed the chocobo, It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Chocobo Breeding Guild. Will pure battle class cry for it? Think before you answer it.

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Well chocobo breeding is supposed to be implimented at some point. I'm actually hoping it will be a DoL or DoH class instead of a universal thing. And sure, some players that only do DoW and DoM will cry about it, but a larger portion will be more along the lines of, "Well, we beat Ifrit, then since we won't have too much else to do before the next patch, we may as well rank up this and get our own chocobo."

Some players simply aren't able to compromise and accept that they're going to have to do something different in order to earn a reward, where as others are perfectly fine with it, since heck, it gives them something to do.

this thread is just too long of convoluted arguing. the same things are being said over and over.
DOL/DOH are not real classes but arent being thrown under the bus either because they are getting a super high in demand system called Materia.
i will not be making anything with materia so i will gladly seek out someones craft profession and i appreciate the efforts of the DOLs because lord knows id rather craft.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

I was just checking. If you're willing to compromise in some way in order to gain a personal chocobo there shouldn't be much of a problem. If you're in a LS I'm sure there'll be someone in it that will give you a hand, or someone here on the forums that can help.

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I tried to shout, but no one seems can help. My LS members are doing their own stuff, r45 raid mostly. I feel being left out....

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

you would have to look at that overall situation too though.

if it took a dol to get into the guild and they raised their chocobo. this chocobo is faster and better than the company chocobo in every way. the dol in the guild cannot trade or sell that chocobo. nobody else would be able to get that bred chocobo besides them then, yes, they would complain.

they are already in another thread complaining that 5-slotted crafted gear may turn out to be the best in the game.

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People will complain about everything.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

I tried to shout, but no one seems can help. My LS members are doing their own stuff, r45 raid mostly. I feel being left out....

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Getting to rank 25 can be accomplished fairly easily and quickly in a solo manner. Leves and solo-grinds are very accessible.

As for feeling left out, you will find that it will get even worse in this game as long as you don't level a battle class.

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How about at 1.19 patch, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them to breed the chocobo, It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Chocobo Breeding Guild. Will pure battle class cry for it? Think before you answer it.

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This sounds like it would only make sense to me and im a battle only player who plans on owning his own Chocobo.
luckily i think the current lore would be that your Chocobo was issued to you after being raised in the GC stables leaving a whole lore background for DOL/DOH when it comes to actually raising them.

Perhaps this could be the Herder class already in game (there are wooden banners for this class in.... Thanalan i think?) and they could even sell their super raised on steroids Chocobos to other players!

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Getting to rank 25 can be accomplished fairly easily and quickly in a solo manner. Leves and solo-grinds are very accessible.

As for feeling left out, you will find that it will get even worse in this game as long as you don't level a battle class.

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But i spent all my free time to level up two class. I gave fish and shards to my LS member, they are really happy about it. I'm really happy about it, too. I do my part in game to help, even i'm willing to level my archer to get my chocobo, i still feel something wrong about this. Why I need to do something I don't really like to get basic element like chocobo?

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

But i spent all my free time to level up two class. I gave fish and shards to my LS member, they are really happy about it. I'm really happy about it, too. I do my part in game to help, even i'm willing to level my archer to get my chocobo, i still feel something wrong about this. Why I need to do something I don't really like to get basic element like chocobo?

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You aren't asking about getting a basic element chocobo. You are asking about getting a Grand Company issue chocobo. It is this simple concept people do not seem to grasp.

Grand Company issue chocobo is not a basic chocobo.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

But i spent all my free time to level up two class. I gave fish and shards to my LS member, they are really happy about it. I'm really happy about it, too. I do my part in game to help, even i'm willing to level my archer to get my chocobo, i still feel something wrong about this. Why I need to do something I don't really like to get basic element like chocobo?

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The general feeling seems to be "Because the dev team was busy with other things and haven't gotten around to it yet. If you wait it out a bit longer, you can get a chocobo without leveling a battle class, just be patient."

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

You aren't asking about getting a basic element chocobo. You are asking about getting a Grand Company issue chocobo. It is this simple concept people do not seem to grasp.

Grand Company issue chocobo is not a basic chocobo.

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Then, why "Final Fantasy" XIV has no basic chocobo that I can have on my own?

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Originally Posted by Valarian

The general feeling seems to be "Because the dev team was busy with other things and haven't gotten around to it yet. If you wait it out a bit longer, you can get a chocobo without leveling a battle class, just be patient."

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That is pretty much it. The dev team are trying to rebuild the entire game, not just bits and pieces, they can't be expected to do everything to everyone's liking in just a single (rather large) patch that's coming out 3 months after the last one. It's just going to have to take some time, patience and understanding from the players whilst they rebuild it all. Rome wasn't built in a day.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

Then, why Final Fantasy XIV has no basic chocobo that I can have on my own?

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It will, they are rental chocobos, which will be usable from rank 10+ by anyone, both battle and crafter alike. That is the basic chocobo content.

CRAFTERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO HORSEBIRDS. THEY ARE THE HELP.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

How about at 1.19 patch, Doh/L get a quest at r25 that grants them to breed the chocobo, It is only available to DoH/L that have pledged allegiance to a Chocobo Breeding Guild. Will pure battle class cry for it? Think before you answer it.

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Me, personally. I do not want to breed a chocobo but I will be more than happy to buy an egg from you. If I change my mind, I will lvl DoH/L so that I could breed my own.

Next question?

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Originally Posted by Valarian

The general feeling seems to be "Because the dev team was busy with other things and haven't gotten around to it yet. If you wait it out a bit longer, you can get a chocobo without leveling a battle class, just be patient."

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Yes, I know. But if I don't speak out right now, I might never get my breeding chocobo. The Dev team are too toward battle class right now.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

Then, why "Final Fantasy" XIV has no basic chocobo that I can have on my own?

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I don't work for them. They did say they are looking into chocobo breeding though.

In the end it could simply be that they want personal chocobos to be something only available to players ranking a battle class at least to 25. Behind all the lore that could be a primary reason. It certainly wouldn't be a bad one either.

The more areas of the game you participate in, the more content you gain access to. When it comes to battle classes, the idea may simply just be "all players are expected to rank battle classes." Given that non-battle classes are considered support classes that are secondary to battle classes, it is a valid idea.

SE is not excluding you from their personal GC issue chocobos. You are excluding yourself from them by not ranking up a battle class.

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Originally Posted by Davorok

Me, personally. I do not want to breed a chocobo but I will be more than happy to buy an egg from you. If I change my mind, I will lvl DoH/L so that I could breed my own.

Next question?

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If i can buy my own chocobo, I'm am fine with it, i got gils. However, I can not. It is the content for battle class only.

I love how you all keep comparing this to the Materia system. As if slotting Materia is going to be in any way fun. Having the ability to make things you made better is not content. You keep saying DoL and DoH are secondary support classes. Well we don't want to be. We want content. We want something to do. Grinding all day is not fun. The Crafting system would be amazing if we actually had some quests or other ways to use our skills. We do not want to be left out of things like Chocobos simply because we would rather focus on our crafting than our fighting.

Yes, I have a level 50 LNC, but I also have a lvl 45 BTN a lvl 40 ALC and every other job at 30-35. I don't want all of those classes sitting around collecting dust because all of the effort is going toward Battle Content. Thats a poor excuse for a game. I can't believe people actually have the nerve to say that DoL and DoH don't deserve things because we are not Fighting. I have never once proclaimed battle classes don't deserve things because they can't craft. I personally have been very vocal about ensuring future battle content isn't watered down to support not combat classes. But that in no way makes its ok to force our DoL/H into secondary roles.

I want a game in which every class I play has a full breadth of content ready and waiting for me as I advance in whatever Class I choose to play. For anyone to tell me that is not how this game should be is a fool looking for another clone of every other MMO ever made.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

SE is not excluding you from their personal GC issue chocobos. You are excluding yourself from them by not ranking up a battle class.

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But they give us our own free will to pick up any class we want in game. And when I level up my fishing, i don't feel the need to level up my battle class. I can do my main story quest all the way to the end. Why all of the sudden just don't give me my chocobo?

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Originally Posted by Kiote

I love how you all keep comparing this to the Materia system. As if slotting Materia is going to be in any way fun. Having the ability to make things you made better is not content.

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So, are you saying you don't enjoy crafting content? You're saying it's not going to be fun, yet you're advocating for more content.

I have multiple rank 50 battle classes, and 1 rank 50 craft: goldsmith. Goldsmith is one of the crafting classes that won't get to participate in materia crafting as much as other crafting classes. Despite all of that, I feel like I am more excited about participating and enjoying materia crafting than you. Ironic?

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I want a game in which every class I play has a full breadth of content ready and waiting for me as I advance in whatever Class I choose to play. For anyone to tell me that is not how this game should be is a fool looking for another clone of every other MMO ever made.

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We're not the ones saying DoL/H are support/secondary classes. The devs are. That is the direction this game is headed in. They will not pull a 180 and backpedal their changes. If you do not like that direction, instead of asking for them to make such a drastic change in direction, find another game. It may sound harsh, but that is the reality of it.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

But they give us our own free will to pick up any class we want in game. And when I level up my fishing, i don't feel the need to level up my battle class. I can do my main story quest all the way to the end. Why all of the sudden just don't give me my chocobo?

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I don't know if you are aware, but the leadership behind the game changed. The initial idea that all classes are equal has been discarded.

With Tanaka's team the game was designed a certain way. Yoshi-P is changing it.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

Then, why "Final Fantasy" XIV has no basic chocobo that I can have on my own?

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Seems to me that they are working on a few different chocobo types... but SE will have to confirm this.

1) Rental Chocobos: Anyone can use Rank 10+ (no restrictions on what class) but they have a time limit. In FFXI the time limit was pretty long... you could pretty much ride from Sandy all the way over to Windy if you didn't mess around and stop or take unnecessarily long routes that were out of the way. So I'm pretty sure its not gonna be "oh look 2 minutes, now we are gonna kick you."

2) Personal Chocobo's though the Grand Company, have to be R25 DoM/DoW to get them and be in a Grand Company. These will be able to be trained for battle and be able to fight, have armor etc.

3) They said they are going to being back Chocobo Breeding. (Now this is all theory on my part since they haven't said anything about the Chocobo's from this) I would hope that anyone can raise their own chocobo, no matter their class... there might be a rank limit to it, maybe 10+ like the rental chocobos. They might be able to be taught to fight, or maybe it would depend on that stats that you raised the chocobo with. They might be able to be used as a basic personal chocobo with no battle capabilities. Or maybe bred for speed, or maybe bred for battle etc...

We just don't have all the info, so at this time we don't know whats going to end up happening over all with Chocobos as the game continues to expand. Remember at the moment they are trying to restructure and put the basic into the game so they can get it to a stable point and bring out the PS3 version.

Also remember this is a new producer and hes changing the vision of the game that the original guy had... unfortunately it will happen and things won't always turn out the way that we thought they would.

On the topic of DoH/L being secondary, I think this is intended to combat things like the unengaging main story line. When equal access degrades the content down to teh sux someone has to take the back seat. Dropping the DoL/H is the smartest thing to do here.

Chocobo riding, though, doesn't become crappy because DoL/H can access them, which is why I see a difference here worth raising a discussion over.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

I don't know if you are aware, but the leadership behind the game changed. The initial idea that all classes are equal has been discarded.

With Tanaka's team the game was designed a certain way. Yoshi-P is changing it.

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Oh, ic. What a waste of time, seems like that I level up my two classes for nothing. I'm glad that this game is still free, or I'll request a refund for it.

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Originally Posted by Valarian

On the topic of DoH/L being secondary, I think this is intended to combat things like the unengaging main story line. When equal access degrades the content down to teh sux someone has to take the back seat. Dropping the DoL/H is the smartest thing to do here.

Chocobo riding, though, doesn't become crappy because DoL/H can access them, which is why I see a difference here worth raising a discussion over.

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This^^

Thank you for bringing some rationality to the conversation. Chocobos are a very fundamental part of a Final Fantasy game, and there is no reason why they couldn't implement an alternative means to obtain a chocobo for DoH/L.

All they're doing is unnecessarily excluding some of their player base by allowing only fighting classes to obtain personal chocobos. Will DoH/L having a personal chocobo negatively affect the playing experience of any fighting class in any way? No? Will it negatively affect the playing experience of non-fighting classes? Yes? Then why do it?

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Originally Posted by Valarian

On the topic of DoH/L being secondary, I think this is intended to combat things like the unengaging main story line. When equal access degrades the content down to teh sux someone has to take the back seat. Dropping the DoL/H is the smartest thing to do here.

Chocobo riding, though, doesn't become crappy because DoL/H can access them, which is why I see a difference here worth raising a discussion over.

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This I can agree with a lot. The main story isn't very involving at the moment because it's possible to do with every class, whether you can fight or not. Because of that I never really feel like I'm part of the battle that's going on between our races and the Garleans, since I never have to lift a finger during any battle sequences, NPC's do the whole thing for me. It sort of takes the fight out of a battle sequence.

By downgrading the gathering and crafting classes to a secondary role, battle classes will step into primary and the story can become more involving between the ongoing war and your character, as there will be a much stronger sense that you are indeed fighting to save your country.

Before anything FFXIV is a roleplaying game, designed for (oh god i'm gonna say it) 'immersive' and engaging plot, and the only way they can do that is to make your character take part in the storyline, rather than stand back and let the NPCs do it for you.

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Originally Posted by Valarian

On the topic of DoH/L being secondary, I think this is intended to combat things like the unengaging main story line. When equal access degrades the content down to teh sux someone has to take the back seat. Dropping the DoL/H is the smartest thing to do here.

Chocobo riding, though, doesn't become crappy because DoL/H can access them, which is why I see a difference here worth raising a discussion over.

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Originally Posted by Invalice_Vangaurd

This^^

Thank you for bringing some rationality to the conversation. Chocobos are a very fundamental part of a Final Fantasy game, and there is no reason why they couldn't implement an alternative means to obtain a chocobo for DoH/L.

All they're doing is unnecessarily excluding some of their player base by allowing only fighting classes to obtain personal chocobos. Will DoH/L having a personal chocobo negatively affect the playing experience of any fighting class in any way? No? Will it negatively affect the playing experience of non-fighting classes? Yes? Then why do it?

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You can still Rent a chocobo with any class at level 10. No one is getting excluded. SE is saying: if you want a faster/unlimited Chocobo here is the compromise: Level up a Battle class to 25.

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Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher

Oh, ic. What a waste of time, seems like that I level up my two classes for nothing. I'm glad that this game is still free, or I'll request a refund for it.

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I am starting to think you are making up you arguments. Either way, I thought you leveled your classes to Craft and Fish, not to ride chocobos.

The company storylines are currently strictly DoW/DoM and ranking up involves getting further into the storyline. If DoL/DoH can participate in it they would either need to make the fights as lame as the main story ones or have the non-combat option which barely ever makes sense, especially when the Empire is involved.

This issue only affects a very small speck of the population and even less of them would be unwilling to level a battle class at all.

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Originally Posted by Holland

I am starting to think you are making up you arguments. Either way, I thought you leveled your classes to Craft and Fish, not to ride chocobos.

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Of course I want my chocobo, It is "Fianl Fantasy" that we talk about here.

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Originally Posted by Holland

You can still Rent a chocobo with any class at level 10. No one is getting excluded. SE is saying: if you want a faster/unlimited Chocobo here is the compromise: Level up a Battle class to 25.

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Yes, because renting a chocobo grants you the same benefits, right? The most important of which is being able to summon it anywhere, not merely in town, leaving you without a chocobo once you dismount. Do you have any idea how much more efficiently someone could gather if they did not have to slowly run to every nod? Yet, you cannot use a rental chocobo for this, now can you?

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I am starting to think you are making up you arguments. Either way, I thought you leveled your classes to Craft and Fish, not to ride chocobos.

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I thought you leveled a battle class to fight, not ride chocobos? Oh, but wait, a chocobo will make your experience more convenient? Well, guess what? It will make ours more convenient also. I actually cannot think of a better use for chocobos right now than gathering.

Please, give me one reason why allowing DoH/L to obtain a personal chocobo would negatively affect you as a battle class?

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Originally Posted by Invalice_Vangaurd

I thought you leveled a battle class to fight, not ride chocobos? Oh, but wait, a chocobo will make your experience more convenient? Well, guess what? It will make ours more convenient also. I actually cannot think of a better use for chocobos right now than gathering.

Please, give me one reason why allowing DoH/L to obtain a personal chocobo would negatively affect you as a battle class?

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We levelled a battle class to fight, yes. Now SE is giving us GC issue battle chocobos to battle with in the future.

Nobody is disagreeing that GC issue chocobos are not the same as rentals; they are clearly better. The point that rentals exist simply make your argument that chocobos are universal content moot.

It is not about allowing DoL/H to obtain personal issue chocobos effecting battle classes. It is about SE clearly wanting players to level battle classes in order to fully experience the game.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

The company storylines are currently strictly DoW/DoM and ranking up involves getting further into the storyline. If DoL/DoH can participate in it they would either need to make the fights as lame as the main story ones or have the non-combat option which barely ever makes sense, especially when the Empire is involved.

This issue only affects a very small speck of the population and even less of them would be unwilling to level a battle class at all.

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And it would have been such a time consuming task to implement an alternative means to obtain a personal chocobo? Considering they created such an intricate quest for obtaining one....oh wait, you merely buy it with seals. So, why couldn't they have just implemented a secondary way for DoH/L to obtain one, therefore, alleviating this problem altogether?

I also really appreciate your majority rule mentality. It's always virtuous to dismiss minority views out of hand.

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Originally Posted by Invalice_Vangaurd

And it would have been such a time consuming task to implement an alternative means to obtain a personal chocobo? Considering they created such an intricate quest for obtaining one....oh wait, you merely buy it with seals. So, why couldn't they have just implemented a secondary way for DoH/L to obtain one, therefore, alleviating this problem altogether?

I also really appreciate your majority rule mentality. It's always virtuous to dismiss minority views out of hand.

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You have to rank up before you "merely buy it with seals"

Glad to see that this is a virtuous discussion, about a video game!

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Originally Posted by Invalice_Vangaurd

Yes, because renting a chocobo grants you the same benefits, right? The most important of which is being able to summon it anywhere, not merely in town, leaving you without a chocobo once you dismount. Do you have any idea how much more efficiently someone could gather if they did not have to slowly run to every nod? Yet, you cannot use a rental chocobo for this, now can you?



I thought you leveled a battle class to fight, not ride chocobos? Oh, but wait, a chocobo will make your experience more convenient? Well, guess what? It will make ours more convenient also. I actually cannot think of a better use for chocobos right now than gathering.

Please, give me one reason why allowing DoH/L to obtain a personal chocobo would negatively affect you as a battle class?

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You decided to ommit my second statement =/

SE is asking to level up a battle class to 25 if you want the luxury of calling a personal chocobo anywhere. The same way they are asking you to level up a craft up to 18 if you want to attach Materia. It is simply that, a compromise.