When/Why were you vote kicked?

Got kicked again last night because of being PS4 player.
I was tanking the Mentor Roulette, got Aurum Vale. Ok, not a good choice to begin with but I'll make the best of it.
On the second trash pull, I hit a toad with my shield lob, it and 2 other mobs activate, good. Fine, I pulled them back a little ways. Then two wandering mobs agro the healer. I go collect them. Then two more mobs agro a DPS. I collect them too.
I begin burning my CDs, the dps is very low. I run out of CDs, the Healer runs out of mana and only two of the 7 mobs are dead at this point. It's a wipe.
Healer then puts a few curses in the chat about pulling too much.
I respond with a "Going to be one of those runs?"
Then I start typing a longer explanation response but since I am using PS4 without a keyboard I am typing slowly. Literally as I finish the response I am kicked out.

I re-queue and get A4, it goes perfectly and my roulette is done. Completely thankful for the kick.

First time in FF I got kicked out of the dungeon. It was a Sepiroth Extreme run aim to clear play.
I watched the video many times and know what will come next and what to watch out for. During the run almost the whole team got killed during pinball phase and only a few dps was alive (including me).
Of course I got killed and restart. Again at pinball phase I got killed by the pillar and healers revived me again and again (Well the aoe burst keep coming and heal wasn't coming to me fast enough).
Tbh I felt bad but I told them to continue without me until it was fine to revive me again. One player was like "what are you doing?" and yeah I got kick out just like that.

Went into another dungeon with a few Malaysians and the run was fine. We had fun and I found out I had lagged so I have to leave. Didn't clear the dungeon but I had a good chat and several laughs at the last run. :)

Because I said I was an Archer and not a Bard, really that was it...

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

Aurum Vale

Healer then puts a few curses in the chat about pulling too much.

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Had this person seriously never been there before? They need to rename the place to Social Aggro Vale.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Had this person seriously never been there before? They need to rename the place to Social Aggro Vale.

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I assume the healer had been there before, he was wearing a bunch of poetics gear. The MNK was there for the first time, since there was a new player message, his gear was level appropriate and he watched the full cut scene.
AV is still one of the most punishing dungeons in the game.

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Originally Posted by Igneel

Because I said I was an Archer and not a Bard, really that was it...

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Are you able to get your soulstone? If so it's a good idea to get it...still wouldn't have kicked you for that though

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Are you able to get your soulstone? If so it's a good idea to get it...still wouldn't have kicked you for that though

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I'm not sure about bard, but I know some classes, at level 50, can actually benefit from all the cross class skills. Like thm actually has higher single target dps than blm. That all pretty much goes out the window at level 60 though.

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Originally Posted by HoodRat

I'm not sure about bard, but I know some classes, at level 50, can actually benefit from all the cross class skills. Like thm actually has higher single target dps than blm. That all pretty much goes out the window at level 60 though.

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...unless you're running with nice people, you really have to be using your job at level 50+.
I mean, if you're doing anything serious. I know I'm leveling my Lancer (not dragoon...long story) but I would be hard-pressed to want to do any dungeon over...53. And pretty much any endgame raid ever. Not even Crystal Tower (could probably do it now but that's beside the point). I certainly would not have done anything serious with it before HW, unless my friends and I were running joke runs or something.

TLDR you need your job crystal. Nothing to kick someone over for if progress in the content is being made but you are holding back your party, just be aware of that.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

...unless you're running with nice people, you really have to be using your job at level 50+.

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And if you're higher than level 50, then you're not at level 50.

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Originally Posted by HoodRat

And if you're higher than level 50, then you're not at level 50.

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Still at level 50, you need your job stone.
As at tank if you aren't using a Job, even right at level 50, you most likely will lose hate and kill everyone.
As a healer if you aren't using a Job, even right at level 50, your heals aren't going to be strong enough to save the tank (and anyone else who may need it).
As a DPS if you aren't using a Job, even right at level 50, you won't do enough damage quick enough, and the longer the battle lasts the worse position the party is in.

Like I said in my earlier post, thm at level 50 has higher single target dps than blm. So in raids without a lot of aoe and stuff (like T11), going as thm was better than blm. However, I'm not aware of any other classes that are better without a job stone. I believe a mrd can outdps a war in single target at level 50, however it's usefulness as a tank plummets and you'd probably be better just taking a 5th dps instead. And ofc, once you get into the expansion and get the job skills, it is better for every class to use their job stone.

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

I assume the healer had been there before, he was wearing a bunch of poetics gear. The MNK was there for the first time, since there was a new player message, his gear was level appropriate and he watched the full cut scene.
AV is still one of the most punishing dungeons in the game.

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They had poetics gear and they were running out of mana in there? By that point you should have a good handle on how to use your skills to minimise mana loss. The level synced gear is better than the top gear for that level anyway. They also aggroed mobs so they have no right to start moaning when they can't figure out where to stand. I'm guessing if they had any mana issues they were a WHM? They have shroud of saints at that level plus divine seal and regen. The only possible way they could run out of mana on a pull is foolishly spamming cure II

I've been kicked from A5 normal several times for typing GG after someone messes up bombs and wipes the group.

I just got my 2nd vote kick from sunken temple of qarn because tank and dps didnt like my healing playstyle, and blamed me for healing em at "5%" because they got hit by aoe.. They initiated the greetings whether if i am suck as AST at the entrance of the dungeon, which i replied as I suck badly.. The run went mostly smooth until the BLM stood still during the last set of mobs at the cave, to the BLM's excuse "controller's being faulty".. BLM was told for being shitty, to their disappointment, BLM chose to remain silence and they start to harass the player more. During the golem boss, tank and that dps started to get into aoe, making em dying because i only healed them at around 50% hp with me dpsing..

They put cursing language in party chat telling me that i am a terrible healer.. In which in my reply i already told em i suck at the beginning.. This infuriated them more when i purposely heal the tank at lower than 20% hp at next set of mobs.. So they intimidated me with a vote kick.. 30sec went by, and i gave em a hint that vote kick can't be initiated with item drops being rolled.. In regards to that, i got a reply "Shut up, f*****"

I got my first vote kick yesterday. I rolled MNK in Aurum Vale because I needed half a bar of EXP to get to lvl 50. On the first pull, the tank leaves the mobs in the middle of the big room and as AV is unwanted pull central, of course some mobs aggro me

We wipe, tank complains, I point out that this place is known for this problem.

Second go at it, it happens again but we manage to kill every mob but tank loses it, and he starts to call me out for it. I calmly reply that I'm a melee DPS, I need to be where the mobs are, so if you don't want me there, don't pull there. I'd also like to point out that he didn't go through the pulls to face the mobs away from the group, so I was always compromised at the back of the pull, because MNK positioning and all.

Then it goes well for a while, we wipe because the tank pulled too much, to which he admits his fault, but the other DPS, a BLM, bails. He's swiftly replaced by another BLM.

Before the last boss, other bad pull, I grab some aggro and we wipe. The tank asks to let him do his full aggro rotation before attacking, which I did because I was waiting for him to position the mobs better, which he didn't, and then I get vote kicked.

I was actually glad they did it, because I was close to 50 anyway at that point, so I grinded FATEs for like 15 minutes and got it.

Remembered a year ago when i was trying to farm crystals on Shiva EX. This is more when i was TRIED to get kicked.

Duty Finder, i was a DRG wanting to farm some crystals. We get to when Shiva pulls out her bow, obviously we get behind her. The healers.... didnt do that..... for some reason. They died, then we wiped. 2nd try. I tell them how that works. Its a really easy mechanic. Shiva pulls her bow, 3 people died to it..... I'm not gonna hide anything, i was being a total ass on how they died to that. I start asking about the party's observation skills, cause it didnt look like it was there. "You just have to get behind her" i would always say. got some backtalk. Dont get me started on how most of them would constantly slip on the ice. 3rd try. Shiva pulls her bow, everyone got behind her. Progress!..... However when she pulled it again, healers once again died. I start all toxic in saying how much tunnel vision was happening. Later in the chat someone says "Why was someone trying to kick the DRG?" I was the only DRG in the party.... so.. yeah. We abandoned cause that party wasnt happening.

I wasn't kicked, but I used my first ever Vote Dismiss about 10 mins ago.

I was doing Snowcloak with my gf (she healed, I was on Summoner). We got a tank that continuously lagged/DC'd. However, he had the gall to start talking to us about mechanics, when he obviously couldn't handle the dungeon with his severe lag/DC's. We hit the second boss (Yeti) and he screws up on the mechanics there, causing us to get hit by the room-wide AoE and getting stacks of VulnUp. Needless to say, we kicked him after.

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Originally Posted by The_Shang

I wasn't kicked, but I used my first ever Vote Dismiss about 10 mins ago.

I was doing Snowcloak with my gf (she healed, I was on Summoner). We got a tank that continuously lagged/DC'd. However, he had the gall to start talking to us about mechanics, when he obviously couldn't handle the dungeon with his severe lag/DC's. We hit the second boss (Yeti) and he screws up on the mechanics there, causing us to get hit by the room-wide AoE and getting stacks of VulnUp. Needless to say, we kicked him after.

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To be fair, it's not hard for anyone else to do the snowball thing.

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Originally Posted by HoodRat

To be fair, it's not hard for anyone else to do the snowball thing.

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To elaborate, he knocked the snowballs into the boss every chance he got, thus not giving us the chance to negate the room-wide AoE when it *did* happen.

Granted, when you're overgeared for the dungeon, the mechanics at that fight aren't that much of an issue, but when someone asks if you know mechanics then screws up on them themselves, I'll have no more patience for them.

I also didn't want to take the 30min penalty as I was there with my gf, and I was working on my summoner lvl60 relic. And considering the DF queue times lately I thought it best to just kick the tank and ask someone in my FC to queue in progress to help out.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom

Just a heads up though, you should be using them regardless of if your healer is keeping up "just fine". You are severely limiting them by forcing them to spam heals on you when you don't use them. The point of a PLD is damage mitigation. Defensive cooldowns are key to passing the line of "I queued as a tank" to "I am a tank."

Just something from a healer who has been set into nothing but Cure II spam on tanks far too many times.

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As a tank I don't pop cooldowns "regardless" I pop them on a more as needed basis. and as a scholar I prefer other tanks to do the same.

It's incredibly annoying seeing a tank pop defensive buffs just because its available for use on a smallish pull that doesn't even tax my scholars fairy to heal. only to then make a relatively large pull and not pop any buffs cos they're all on cooldown. it's a massive waste of buffs in my opinion. and this is where I find i'm having to be really heavy on the heals. bacuase too many tanks waste there buffs.

Only happened once. They could have just not and everything would be fine from that point on, but I can't hold it against them because the inconvenience I afforded them was fully my responsibility.

Stone Vigil. I'm tank. We get a few trash mobs in. My connection cuts (that's what I get for being in the northern part of a country like Wales). First and only connection drop of the day but it takes a handful of minutes before I can begin the log in process again. In less than 5 minutes I was back and without a word I received a kick a few seconds later.

I might have been more merciful but fair play. I've played plenty of other games where the etiquette is to sit down and shut up if it's your connection alone that cut, and rightly so.

The only times I have been vote kicked was back when I first started back before Heavensward came out. I was kicked from 3 parties in Brayflox normal. Twice before we even started because I wasn't a White Mage and the third after the party died because the tank wouldn't dodge dragon breath and left the dragon in the poison puddles.

The only time I got vote kicked was when freakin' game crashed on me and the party refused to wait 3 minutes for me to return. XD

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Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie

And yes sometimes being kicked from a party is a mercy

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THIS SHALL BE A MERCY!

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Originally Posted by Aaliyahrose

THIS SHALL BE A MERCY!

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It's obviously a Mercy Stroke.

I haven't been vote kicked yet, but I have initiated a vote kick a couple of times, but only for the following reasons:
1.) A DPS decides he wants to be a tank and continuously pulls all of the mobs, causing the tank and healer a lot of trouble.
2.) A tank trying to pull way too many mobs, especially in a pre-50 dungeon, dies because heals can't keep up. Tank tries the same exact thing again, except this time without even waiting for Protect.
3.) Any player begins cursing and telling other people they suck or they are idiots. Especially when that person is the DPS, it's easy to remove them and find a more civilized DPS quickly. Or even clear the dungeon with just 3 people.

Thankfully, I've never encountered someone going afk for more than a minute and I've only initiated a vote kick for someone who DCed once after they didn't come back for a few minutes.

I wouldn't vote kick anyone for Needing on an item they don't actually need, but I certainly will remember their name.

The one time I got votekicked was during Qarn (HM) when I was new to tanking (DRK was my first tank class). I couldn't hold aggro to save my life, and got voted out (justifiably). Quit tanking after that and never looked back. Funny enough, I only started tanking to help get comms, but I get more comms as BLM than I ever did as a tank.

I just got vote kicked because tank struggled to hold hate against my enochian BLM in DPS stance. XD I find it hilariously pathetically funny more than anything.

ETA: It was the Antitower I got booted from, which was entirely random.

In a7n, heart reached the gobwalker twice and we wiped. Without out any warning, nothing said to me specifically, and after only one wipe, I was kicked. Granted, I'm not very familiar with the fight, so I missed them spawn until too late, but I'm a drg, and the other 3 dps were ranged.

Was in void arc today as an OT. Told my alliance that Grit was for p******. They thought I was serious so they kicked me lol.

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Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf

Was in void arc today as an OT. Told my alliance that Grit was for p******. They thought I was serious so they kicked me lol.

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Lol xD every time I'm about to say something that people shouldn't take serious but probably will I add a little (JK) at the end..... it helps haha

Lol last time i was vote kicked was a very long time ago. I was playing a dragoon, keep in mind this was like 2.0 era. Anyways I used LB on the first boss because, well, why not? They questioned me about it saying the healer could need it or the tank could need it along the way. So I responded well, if the healer or tank needs it and we aren't fighting a boss then you are playing the class wrong. Apparently that was vote kickable... Some people are just touchy. Now the time before that I deserved it, because i was healing and the tank made some smart ass comment, I disagreed so the DPS joined in, granted it wasn't a real argument it was just a battle of opinions. Well after long they all started telling me to leave so they can get someone else in there i told them to piss off because i wasnt waiting for another dungeon. So instead of leaving i let the group start a fight, let them all die, raised them claimed i DC'd let them start a fight again let them die, then ran back to the entrance and stood there until i got kicked, it took them nearly 10 minutes, they were very adamant about wanting me to leave to get a timer.

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Originally Posted by Dubah

it took them nearly 10 minutes, they were very adamant about wanting me to leave to get a timer.

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Well I would've waited you out; people who do this sort of stuff to bypass the penalty are the worst, honestly...
just get the run done or leave.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Well I would've waited you out; people who do this sort of stuff to bypass the penalty are the worst, honestly...
just get the run done or leave.

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Well, can you blame me? I don't take kindly when people start name calling and getting stupid over an opinion. Granted what I did probably wasn't right, but when you call me a name over something stupid that I disagree with you about, then be careful because I'm plotting something that you aren't gonna like.

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Originally Posted by Dubah

Well, can you blame me? I don't take kindly when people start name calling and getting stupid over an opinion. Granted what I did probably wasn't right, but when you call me a name over something stupid that I disagree with you about, then be careful because I'm plotting something that you aren't gonna like.

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You're right, that was pretty mean of them and I also don't condone that type of play, but really

Just report them for being jerks and leave the party. Don't sink to their level.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

You're right, that was pretty mean of them and I also don't condone that type of play, but really

Just report them for being jerks and leave the party. Don't sink to their level.

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Yeah cause reporting them does anything, why should i have taken a lockout timer for them being A holes? It's not like I did it just to be a dick, i couldve done it without killing them of course, but hey, crap happens, we live we learn and move on

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Originally Posted by Dubah

Yeah cause reporting them does anything, why should i have taken a lockout timer for them being A holes? It's not like I did it just to be a dick, i couldve done it without killing them of course, but hey, crap happens, we live we learn and move on

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Actually, yeah, reporting does a lot...especially rude people. I've had GMs talk to me while in duties.
You take the lockout timer because YOU decided you didn't want to run with them anymore. Does it suck? Sure does. Is it fair? Nope. Instead of also being a jerk you could've:
"Fine bye" and left or
"You know what nevermind, let's just finish" and finish. It's not admitting defeat or saying sorry, it's shutting up for the better of the group and moving on. I do this constantly if I don't want a penalty (when I don't care I do just leave and suck it up). It's not that hard.

I once got kicked because I felt a bit... petty I guess.

Got into a Stone Vigil party with a SCH, MCH, and a BLM, which was neat.
But for some reason the BLM insisted on running ahead of me, attacking the mobs before I even got there and at least once go to a completely different room just to aggro the mobs there and bring them to me.

I spent most of the time just kinda waiting for the BLM to die whenever they aggroed stuff before me and only take the aggro once they were down, or if the monsters were slapping someone else in the party.
The entier run was like that.
Once we reached the last boss and I finally got the chance to ready check, but both the SCH and the BLM didn't check for ready.
A few moments of silent later I get kicked.

I probably deserved that very very much but I was so utterly annoyed over how they would not stop running ahead even when I asked them not to.
I feel bad for the MCH for getting caught up in my pettyness, they were neat.

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Originally Posted by Internet

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I'm guessing they were friends because a player like that is annoying for everyone in the party. I usually wait just before the last boss to vote kick them but it looks like you never got this chance.

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Originally Posted by Skorp_X

I'm guessing they were friends because a player like that is annoying for everyone in the party. I usually wait just before the last boss to vote kick them but it looks like you never got this chance.

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You're right! They were friends!
I couldn't write all the details since heugh character limit.
They told me that they were queued together with the healer some point after the 2nd boss, they had once again aggroed a bunch of mobs and the Healer was REALLY adamant about keeping them alive this time.

For some reason kicking them were never something that came to mind, I'm usually the super stubborn person who tries to make it work even if the people in the party are bothersome.