Why do Mi’qote ears go through Snow’s hat but not Hrothgar ears?

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

A bit convenient given how this is such a broad statement with serious implications.

Talking about limitations and issues isn't the same as labelling the race as Limited, and to my knowledge, never once has Yoshida done that on an official basis. That term was never once used to describe Hrothgar nor any other race to this date.

It may be that it's their desire implicitly, but there's nothing official about it other than talking about how hard it is to make content and how different the race is designed. Which is to be expected: it's a beast race. It's not something you can copy-paste from humans. That is obvious.

Constantly saying Yoshida did label this race as such isn't only erroneous, it is irresponsible and actually does harm to Hrothgar players. It promotes negative notions that have led to harassment from the community toward Hrothgar players.

Please watch your words.

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But it's not wrong. The proof is there to see for all, & to say different would be tantamount to lying about the issue, which would fix nothing.

Never have i hidden my disdain for Hroth & always felt their inclusion was unnecessary & handled horribly but my opinion isn't the only one that matters & people have the right to pursue that which they want to project themselves as. They also deserve to have access to all the features that every other player has in the ability to customise their avatar. I feel a complete redesign is needed to go forward or else the issue of their limited status will never be addressed.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

It is because miquote default head is bald with no ear.
Hrothgar default head model comes with ear because this is an actual beast race and not really humanoid model that already existed.

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Yup. I remember them talking about exactly this. Something along the lines that they have to put the Miqo'te ears 'on' so-to-speak. With the Hrothgar, the ears are part of the model, so adding ears like they do with the Miqo'te would cause all kinds of clipping issues.

That's all well and good with explaining the constrictions they are dealing with, and unfortunately, many would consider it overstepping pressing the matter further than that; such as wondering why they even went that route in the first place when there is another feline race in existence without those constrictions they could've used as a starting point.

It's yet another example of SE and their lack of foresight. I get they wanted a true beast race, but there is a definitely a disconnect if it simply slipped their minds that the playerbase would not favor the lack of CC options. I will always remain of the mind that no additional races should have ever been released unless they are every single bit as customizable as any of the other races. We now see the result of releasing more races prematurely. It's a shame, and they're going to do it one more time to boot.

The more I see reason in all the wishes we have for Vieras and Hrothgars, the more I think how perfect it would be if they update the game engine again. I know they won't do it because of the workload and prices and efforts... etc... I know that will never happen. But, I can clearly see that MANY problems we see now in the game could be solved by this dream.

They can renew the Hroths in a way that they will be like a full race and not this eternal alpha version. More options for almost everything in the game, beside that.

Perhaps, if we "ask" for it as a united voice to solve all problems, it will do some good? '-'

If they really want this game to last another 10 years, they should definitely take into account all our suggestions and demands instead of just giving lazy excuses and changes due to "spagetties" or other limitation...

I know this is a dream, but sometimes, if we work hard, dreams can come true... :3

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

There's no lore excuse, nor was there a request for patience. Hrothgar and Viera were made per your request and that was it. No amount of money or whining is gonna fix it.

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Can you point to any post about Hrothgar being requested between their Shadowbringers release and now? Go on. I'll wait

Wasn't lupin like the main beast race players were requesting prior to hrothgar?

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Wasn't lupin like the main beast race players were requesting prior to hrothgar?

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Was it?

/10chars

Lupin would have been awesome. I would gladly give up hats and hairstyles for that.

Also make the Snow set useable by female characters please SE :(

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

It is because miquote default head is bald with no ear.
Hrothgar default head model comes with ear because this is an actual beast race and not really humanoid model that already existed.

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As we can see here

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Originally Posted by SacraAnima

https://i.imgur.com/1EZp3Kv.png

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Here

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Originally Posted by Azazel_Grim

I'm a very experienced 3D Artist. It took me 25 minutes to figure out how to rip from the game, and throw this together:
https://i.imgur.com/gCsoLGV.png
While it does look significantly better with ears, it goes to show their hair choices were abysmal, and nonsensical.

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and here

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...203&height=677

This is just an excuse.

I want some cute hats! :(

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Originally Posted by Adamantini

As we can see here



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and here

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...203&height=677

This is just an excuse.

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since hrothgar arent important enough to get hair options that arent viera hand-me-downs I guess I need to start praying viera get styled for hire in 6.2
Ive seen a few snaps and screens of hrothgar in it and its so nice