Please lift glamour restrictions!

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Like the Idea that someone would even wear a complete full set of job specific gear is funny in itself, because from what I've seen once people level up they don't even use these sets and nobody really even wears the full set.

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Don't talk about us making assumptions when you are automatically making one by saying this stupid statement. I've seen plenty people glamouring AF gear as well as using it (back when it was relevant in 2.0 and 3.0). Glamouring it and using it should only be locked to the jobs, period. Why? Because seeing a DRK wearing WHM gear is stupid.

If you want the PLD crown, why don't you request a crown you can glamour on every class instead of asking job-specific gear to be unlocked for any job to wear it?

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I have stated this I am fine with more options I want more options for casters I would at the minimum let that dow and casters had the same freedom as tanks. Meaning that tanks can wear , dow, and caster gear thats three different options. Dow only has two options and casters pretty much can only wear caster gear aside from the one tiny metal chest piece that someone else linked.

But I also said looking at the post of the op, it is no way I can disagree with them if Im being fair how can I tell someone that boots are off limits just because they are job specific, like boots that distinctive enough that you no instantly which job it is. So that being said to open to door for the small things like the op is asking you could only do it in a way to where you just unlocked the whole system as a whole. Unless they made some sort of system to where you can only use certain items from a job. So I am not specifically saying I only want to do it this way , what Im saying is that what other way is possible for people like the op to get their choice in glamour aside from getting rid of the whole system as it currently is.

Sad this has to be a requested topic so much since its pretty much a no-brainer.

Live..and let live. To each...his own. Drop A L L glam restrictions. If an armor piece has successfully found its way into your armory crate...its yours to glam on A N Y job.

If the thought of seeing soft wooly robes of a whm glamoured atop the valiant sturdy armor of your pld upsets you (lol) and makes you feel you're being unfaithful to the time-honored history of all things ff past and present.....THEN JUST DON'T GLAMOUR IT. But stop trying to forced that 'I only want limited creative options and I want others subjected to this rule too' viewpoint on others. If you only wanna color your picture with 5 crayons, stop interfering with the other kid who reaches for the box with 20.

FF14 boasts some really great armor designs, really unique. The Lion set for war/pld from pvp..the bushy tail for blms, some of the cool mnk gear for mnks, etc. The current problem is that they're locked to each job glamour-wise. Many of us who simply enjoy making up cool designs would love to take just one or 2 pieces (no...not the whole damn set as some here keep using as a justifiable arguement not to allow) and impliment them into another set to create something altogether new. By lifting the restrictions..those options jump from 5 to 30 kinds of options to choose from.

Yet a couple of you exceedingly intelligent people here seem to come up with any number of reasons NOT to allow this:

1. New players, myself included even though Ive been playing ff for liek 3 years, will be unable to distinguish between jobs. This will have a detrimental effect on my overall expereince.

Alright. Give me even ONE realistic scenario where this has detrimental consequence? Let me see...seeing a pld-miqo running around in red bikini garb makes you feel like the typical ff pld can't take a lot of damage and is squishy, which in turn makes you wanna change your future line of work? Well gee..we're already suffering from that.

2. It makes no sense lorewise.

But currently, seeing a plump lala drg running through the frosty streets of Ishgard in a t-shirt and a summer hat does? The lore arguement was shot in the back, then face, the minute they started releasing LvL. 1 glams years ago.

and the best excuse of all...

3. I just don't want it allowed. We already have enough glam options.

Good..then as said above...if said restrictions DO get lifted...you can be that self righteous guy/gal who stanchly REFUSES to utilize the increased options.

And ya, Ive seen how some here who are against the idea have tried to take it to the extreme with the 'Well if thats how you feel..lets allow weapons and skills to be glamed/crossed over too' agruement. For your sakes, since you particularly seem to need more clarification, I'll state clearly that this is only with reference to armor glams and nothing more.

The BIGGEST issue here...is that many of us would love to take pieces of existing armor sets and intigrate them into others to make a completely new look...and we can't. Thats the problem we want fixed. Those of you worried about people glaming on entire armor sets from alternate jobs need to chill lol. (I mean...not like you can't just use the check option to see what they really are, or are you just too lazy to do that if you have issue with such?)

...like I said..find it laughable (being polite there) that this is even an issue. From an artistic standpoint, its a no-brainer.

The MNK wear is mostly, understandably, cloth/leather but I still want to have sick gauntlets and boss helm wear.

Also, there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting your heavy hitter to be able to fight in a robe you'd normally find on a DoM. Tales of series put their MNK in a big dumb dress and the DRK equivalents in full cloth craft.

What I don't understand is all of the arguments that it would "stray too far from the jobs identity" and "lore" and so on and so on in this game of magic called Final FANTASY. People don't seem to grasp that it's a glamour either. A magical spell. In a land of Fantasy. Glamour originally was a term applied to a magical-occult spell that was cast on somebody to make them see something the spell-caster wished them to see, when in fact it was not what it seemed to be. It's magic. It doesn't need to have a logical explanation or to make sense.
fan·ta·sy
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So we have this amazing world of Fantasy and Magic that people want arbitrary restrictions on forrrrrrrr.........reasons.

Saw this thread and had to post here too. If people don't like the idea of a WHM looking like a DRG, just to give one example, then just don't glamour YOUR character to look like that. Don't punish the rest of us too because of this lame excuse that you don't like the way other people are going to look.

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Correct! You can't glam what you can't wear because it's job specific, thank you for pointing out the way the glamour system works. Once you can use it as a glam on multiple jobs, it stops being job specific, like the BRD's Kirimu Coat became generic glamour, and as a result went from being a cool look, to a generically 'meh' piece of gear.[/QUOTE]

You can currently not glamour what you can't wear because of technical limitations - not because of lore or logic. Gear could stay job specific even if glamours of the gear was not.
That a look would change from 'cool' to 'meh' just because it is no longer restricted to a certain job is just plain stupid and ridiculous. Looks are not better because they are job-specific - quite the opposite in fact.

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If it doesn't need to have a logical explanation or to make sense, then why make it so? :rolleyes:

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If it doesn't need to have a logical explanation or to make sense, then why make it so? :rolleyes:

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Because this game is Final Fantasy. It's in the name for goodness sake. Why should a game about fantasy be bound by rules of logic and reason?

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-snip-don't glamour YOUR character to look like that. Don't punish the rest of us too because of this lame excuse that you don't like the way other people are going to look.

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This. If Alphinaud can brave the snow in those straps he calls clothes, I can actually put on clothes. Oh wait, I can't. Cloth shoes that would soak up snow in an instant it is! (Assuming someone out there who wants to be dressed for the weather would think this, bikini armor all day yo. I'm magic!)

Like, spot the WAR, DRG(may be kinda obvious), and NIN. Their world's fashion is pretty close to XIV's in terms of ambiguously modern depending on where you are. And they have the same types of cities and general fantasy locations. What's wrong with their clothes being applied to their roles? If anything I think the role specific armor should stay with NPCs since you, as the WoL, can stand out and be the primal slaying monster killer you are. You got the Echo, go nuts.

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/a...psosbqqtv8.jpg

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Don't punish the rest of us too because of this lame excuse that you don't like the way other people are going to look.

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You almost got me there. Haha !
Maybe your choice of words is a little bit exaggerated. ^^;

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Because this game is Final Fantasy. It's in the name for goodness sake. Why should a game about fantasy be bound by rules of logic and reason?

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Because even imaginary worlds have their own coherence, even if they are full of magic.
Yeah, i know, bikini, pig suit, etc... It's just different there.

So now we are at that point, we are comparing different games to make our points ?
I'm currently on Let It Die so... Urk... Try... To... Resist... @_@

It's funny, i read all the pages of this thread and instead of asking more variety, you just want to ruin the concept of the AF, just because someone wants the boots from a job for another, or a pants, or a panty or... I don't know. :/

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Because this game is Final Fantasy. It's in the name for goodness sake. Why should a game about fantasy be bound by rules of logic and reason?

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Well we may as well get rid of the laws, rules, lore, city-states, boundaries, etc. No point in having any logic or coherence in a "Fantasy" world. :D

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Well we may as well get rid of the laws, rules, lore, city-states, boundaries, etc. No point in having any logic or coherence in a "Fantasy" world. :D

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Yes they're in the form of Hildibrand quests and the concept of the Echo.

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Well we may as well get rid of the laws, rules, lore, city-states, boundaries, etc. No point in having any logic or coherence in a "Fantasy" world. :D

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This so much.

A random caster wearing a random piece of plate? sure

A Random caster wearing the sacred armor of the Ninja tribe? no.

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A Random caster wearing the sacred armor of the Ninja tribe? no.

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Aye, there are quite a few mage pieces that do have some form of metal plate on them, people would just rather complain than find glamours that look how they want.

The restrictions are just fine the way they are, and it does in fact promote diversity rather than everyone looking identical.

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Sad this has to be a requested topic so much since its pretty much a no-brainer.

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Thank you someone who gets it , what you said makes 100 percent sense.

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This so much.

A random caster wearing a random piece of plate? sure

A Random caster wearing the sacred armor of the Ninja tribe? no.

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Except that said caster is not really wearing the so called sacred ninja armor. They are casting an illusion on the mage armor they are really wearing to make it look like ninja armor. I really don't understand why the idea of this being possible triggers people so much.

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I would hope you would understand that people don't like the thought of looking like a copy of someone else. If I was on my ninja, and I saw a mage glamour on my job locked gear, I would be rightly annoyed, because then a different job is encroaching on and stealing my jobs identity. How do you people not understand that identity is as much about the look as it is about the feel?

Hell, people are pissed because tanks can glamour on generic bedsheets and call those bedsheets mage gear, it's the exact same thing.

I do find it hilarious people don't care that they can glamour on DoH/DoL gear as any job, though. :3

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Except that said caster is not really wearing the so called sacred ninja armor. They are casting an illusion on the mage armor they are really wearing to make it look like ninja armor. I really don't understand why the idea of this being possible triggers people so much.

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Magic doesn't have to have infinite freedom and no restrictions just because it isn't real. By your own logic, magic doesn't have to "be bound by rules of logic and reason" and be arbitrarily unrestricted just to satisfy you.

I'll love this.
I really want to wear the scholar AF2 gloves and whm AF2 boots, gloves and skirt.

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If I was on my ninja, and I saw a mage glamour on my job locked gear, I would be rightly annoyed, because then a different job is encroaching on and stealing my jobs identity..

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So how do you feel about there being someone with your exact face, skin tone and hair color/style? It's possible. Not many face options. But that's just to exaggerate. I think you're highly over estimating how much someone wants to look like you and you alone.

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I don't understand that argument either because depending on your situation you could end up in a party with 7 other identical looking people who are the same class. Regardless of your class someone else looking similar or identical to you in this game is always a possibility and shouldn't bother you at all. It can already happen.

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False equivalency. Character models are a separate issue and have nothing at all to do with job specific gear.

I say if you can equip it on the class its meant for, you can glamor it. I see tanks wearing things made of unmetalic cloth and healers barely wearing anything glammed on a daily basis in instances. In MY opinion, that breaks immersion but that is also MY personal gripe as to why glam restrictions need to be rescended to an extent. If a 60 SCH wants to glam PLD Shire gear to their 60 Shire heal set then let them if they got PLD to 60. ...I mean it does make sense for the upcoming DRGmage to be able to wear DRG armor after all.

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Except that said caster is not really wearing the so called sacred ninja armor. They are casting an illusion on the mage armor they are really wearing to make it look like ninja armor.

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Why do they need to cast the illusion of the Ninja armor? Why are they trying to make their Black Mage look like a Ninja? Why aren't they playing the Ninja class instead of desecrating the aesthetics of the Ninja culture?

Questions that cannot be answered because job-specific AF gear shouldn't be shared. Regardless of it being a glamour or not.

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I really don't understand why the idea of this being possible triggers people so much.

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Because creative initiatives need to be put in place to retain the identity of the job. Which is why we have the argument Yoshi presents, if you have a character that looks like a White Mage but then pulls out this massive sword... it's like why even have job gear anymore at that point? It loses all identity because it begins to be disassociated from whence it came from.

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Live..and let live. To each...his own.

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So you start your post with live and let live. To each his own...then spend the rest of the post laughing that people actually exist who have different opinions than you...

I know it is such an absurd concept right that such people could actually exist; very laughable :/

I realize the topic is far from a serious real world debate, but really? Sigh.

The first post, as of this post, has 49 likes, that is hardly "many of us" (since most of the player base doesn't even use the forums) so pretending that your stance is the majority without knowing real statistics about how many people actually agree with you is a pointless argument to use in your favour.

As for the other points the only one I support is the lore reason. Yeah, they've already done stuff with gear that doesn't follow lore, which is exactly why some of us don't want to remove the lore from this too. I don't see why that is so laughable. I could just turn it around on you that 'if the thought of not having that small 5-10% of gear in the game unrestricted for you to use upsets you (lol) then you need to chill.'

Well a tank can already wear some mage gear, though only if it's below level 50. Then there's the Halloween gear from two years ago which, from a distance and from behind, looks like Black Mage gear in a way.

Think about if this thread popped up after Stormblood's release. Could you imagine the rage people would have if RDM's pimp hat could be glammed by any job?

Some of you think there will be no consequences by lifting the restrictions? Are you serious? Hundreds of players would undoubtedly cancel their subs. Some of you seriously fail to contemplate exactly how much to heart the fans and devs take in the identities given to the iconic jobs of the franchise. The replies in this thread are very indicative that you have no clue, have no respect, or both.

It is correct that lifting the restriction doesn't impede any of the gameplay, but Final Fantasy is far more than just the gameplay. It's more than just an MMO. These devs work their asses off to provide a unique experience to the gaming community while also struggling to make it marketable while keeping its identity intact. The content they provide instead of savored while chewed, is constantly devoured whole and little thanks given. I can't even think about the challenge of satiating a rabid player base. I feel so bad for them sometimes., especially if they read a thread like this one.

I always try to see both sides of things, but in this case it is really difficult to do so when one side just can't understand why regardless of the circumstances, or how a game is structured, it is simply inappropriate for one job to be wearing OR GLAMOUR ANY of the pieces of artifact gear from another job. If you can't get it through your heads why it just isn't ok, then you just don't understand Final Fantasy.

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Some of you seriously fail to contemplate exactly how much to heart the fans and devs take in the identities given to the iconic jobs of the franchise. The replies in this thread are very indicative that you have no clue, have no respect, or both.

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The main point I have been making. Many of them want no middle ground at all.

So directly from the source with interviews...

Source: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/fina...living-economy

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USG: The higher-level gear is very Final Fantasy in feel. Dragoons look like Kain Highwind from Final Fantasy IV for example. How do you carry that idea forward as you start raising the level cap?

NY: I'd like to thank you. When you say that it feels like real Final Fantasy armor and it enhances that job, that's exactly what we're aiming for when we designed those. We do have more in store. I can't tell you much, but we're currently designing and developing the next set of artifact armor, which will expand on those designs. It's going to be even greater than what we have now. It will feature a lot of the designs based on the original work from Mr. Amano. We can't tell you anymore, but that armor will be released very soon. It's really, really cool.

USG: Do you feel that's a chance for you to define what these jobs are in Final Fantasy as a whole? Do you get to carve out a new path for what a Dragoon or Black Mage looks like?

NY: That's a good question because we try to change a little bit and try something new with each design. However the art team can get a little nervous when having to change something. They ask, 'How far can we go?' They understand that the fans expect certain things, but they want to try things themselves. What we've decided is that for PVP armor, we allow them to use their whole creativity and do things that are really original. When it comes to PVE, we want them to respect what came before. So you have that basic silhouette that a staple of the Final Fantasy series and then we build off of that. Maybe keep that silhouette, but at something that's little bit Final Fantasy XIV to that while maintaining the original. Adding to that and seeing how the players react to that change. If the response is good, then may change it a little more for the next set of armor. Keeping the new and original along with the traditional.

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If you do not know who Yoshitaka Amano is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshitaka_Amano

Source: http://www.dualshockers.com/2012/11/...nt-screencaps/

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Q30: Can you tell us what’s planned for equipment dyeing? Can you dye artifact?

A30: For dyeing, there will be colors that can be purchased from NPCs and there will also be those that will be made by Disciples of the Land/Hand. It will be possible to dye gear that has already been dyed a different color. At the start there will be 24 colors, but there will also be rare colors besides these 24. In regards to the methods for dying, the places you can dye are decided based on the equipment, and only that part can be dyed. For artifact we are not planning to allow for color changes at first. We don’t want to destroy the image of artifact armor, but we’d like to do this in the future.

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Again, they take their Original Creative Works very seriously. It has a lot of tradition and pride. This is the series that saved this Company.

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So whats the excuse when the guy in the pig suit pulls out that same big sword?

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While there are restrictions inplace, the company wants the playerbase to have fun and a certain amount of freedoms. Its called the middle ground. But by all means continue to fall back on Pig Suits, Seasonal Gear, and Vanity Items as a crutch.

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Why do they need to cast the illusion of the Ninja armor? Why are they trying to make their Black Mage look like a Ninja? Why aren't they playing the Ninja class instead of desecrating the aesthetics of the Ninja culture?

Questions that cannot be answered because job-specific AF gear shouldn't be shared. Regardless of it being a glamour or not.



Because creative initiatives need to be put in place to retain the identity of the job. Which is why we have the argument Yoshi presents, if you have a character that looks like a White Mage but then pulls out this massive sword... it's like why even have job gear anymore at that point? It loses all identity because it begins to be disassociated from whence it came from.

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So whats the excuse when the guy in the pig suit pulls out that same big sword?

The devs will impose or lift whatever limitation they want.

In another thread, it was said that Emperor's New Shield will become available eventually

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Think about if this thread popped up after Stormblood's release. Could you imagine the rage people would have if RDM's pimp hat could be glammed .

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Just like everyone is gona leave because of said jump potion do you see the thread on that one , I hate to keep referring to this but, at the end of he day the devs will do whats gona make things work for them as a company.

Just because you take the fact that someone wants to wear some boots from another job that serious doesnt mean that everyone else would. Ive asked my fc members what they thought of this topic and pretty much all of them thought the idea was pretty amazing, but thats just a small amount of people.

But Id like to think that an expansion on creativity will only make people happy considering how often I see people in some of the most silly armor choices possible in the game. Its a game not a law book, and its wrong of you to say we dont care about the game otherwise why would we be makin suggestions that we believe would improve the game play for the majority of players that arent stubborn about folklore.

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So whats the excuse when the guy in the pig suit pulls out that same big sword?

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Pig outfit isn't AF gear, not part of my discussion nor my point. There's a reason it says "All Classes" and not "DRK".

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Just like everyone is gona leave because of said jump potion do you see the thread on that one , I hate to keep referring to this but, at the end of he day the devs will do whats gona make things work for them as a company.

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This is no comparison, stop using it as one.
Jump potions/level boosting has been used in various other mmo's and while there is always flack in the start, 2 months after its release nobody cares.

What you want to do is take away the identification of from some jobs existed since the release of the first Final fantasy 1987, almost 3 decades.

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What you want to do is take away the identification of from some jobs existed since the release of the first Final fantasy 1987, almost 3 decades.

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Gonna give us a history lesson too teach?

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Ok and various other mmos let you wear gear that you want also, thats kinda my point that SE if enough people wanted such a thing then they would make it happen. The Identification was taking away as soon as the game sent out their first chocobo head or santa suit, as far as Identification in this game most of the time the only way you know is by viva soul crystal or the weapon thats out at the time.

So dont act like making this change would all of a sudden make it even harder to identify because you cant even do this now as is, the only way any of the counter arguments on here would make sense is if the game never allowed any sorts of armor to be glamed other than what would be deemed job appropriate.

But they did my very picture is not me in my whm, summoner, blm, or any caster gear this is my dark knight, nobody has every said omg why are you wearing a mags hate on your drk you arent drk appropriate. You guys are spending to much time worried about the next person.

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I would hope you would understand that people don't like the thought of looking like a copy of someone else. If I was on my ninja, and I saw a mage glamour on my job locked gear, I would be rightly annoyed, because then a different job is encroaching on and stealing my jobs identity. How do you people not understand that identity is as much about the look as it is about the feel?

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This is really silly. You are getting way too worked up over what other people want to do with THEIR character. A reasonable person doesn't think what you typed. They don't get irrationally annoyed at people for not making their in-game avatar in a you-approved manner.

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So you start your post with live and let live. To each his own...then spend the rest of the post laughing that people actually exist who have different opinions than you...

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Because some people in this thread are bent on forcing other folk to only glamour what they approve of, while others want to just be able to glamour what we want. Only one of those groups is actually following the "live and let live" philosophy.

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Think about if this thread popped up after Stormblood's release. Could you imagine the rage people would have if RDM's pimp hat could be glammed by any job?

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I honestly wouldn't care? People really need to stop getting so angry about what OTHER PEOPLE glamour on THEIR characters.

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This is really silly. You are getting way too worked up over what other people want to do with THEIR character. A reasonable person doesn't think what you typed. They don't get irrationally annoyed at people for not making their in-game avatar in a you-approved manner.

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You may want to ditch the not-so-subtle personal attacks and the smug sense of superiority if what you're after is a civil debate. Your view of 'everyone should be able to do what they want' isn't shared by everybody, nor is it necessarily the best stance for the developers to take.

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This is really silly. You are getting way too worked up over what other people want to do with THEIR character.

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Something I care about and cherish is being attacked and people are voicing their desires to rip out its soul and leave only a soulless husk of a shell behind. Yes, I'm gonna speak out in defense of something I greatly enjoy when other people wish to take away one of the things I love most about this game.

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You are being pretty extreme I would love to see all of the jobs you have leveled with all full sets of job specific gear on.

Once again nobody is taking or asking to take anything from you at all , taking would be actually taking the gear itself and not letting anyone wear it. What the good people here are asking for is just to share it without the job restrictions, and to create an illusion with magic because thats how most of the stuff in the game works anyway after all with magic.

Like I mention before I could literally take a picture for Limsa Lominsa area by the market board on my server and prob couldn't tell which job was what because of the current glamour system. I just did a dungeon with an astro decked out in full kuppo gear and i knew it was an astro cause it had the astro symbol and its weapon, certainly wasnt because of some job specific gear. Sharing something and taking it away are two different things. If your love for this type of lore was so great you would have already left the game because everyone basicly breaks said lore standards on a daily bases because this is a video game not a lore book are guide on how to play.

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Once again, this is a flawed argument because it has nothing at all to do with the conversation. Sure, some people choose to glamour over their job specific gear for their own reasons. This doesn't bother me, because the gear that's on display is either different job specific gear for that job/role or it's one of the generic sets, like the aforementioned pig suit, which again doesn't bother me.

However, taking job specific gear, like the DRG's outfit, and giving it to say WHM IS DILUTING THE IMAGE OF A DRG BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER JOB SPECIFIC GEAR, BUT GENERIC GEAR.