Chocobo Dye Experimentation

royal + apple = abyssal again so now I'm going to feed my abyssal an apple and see what happens

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Originally Posted by ZReport

Desert Yellow (First Feed START)
???
???
???
???
???
???
Shale Brown (7th Message; Second Feed START)
???
???
???
???
???
???
???
???
???
Lavender Purple (10th Message)

I only used O'Ghomoro Berries so there shouldn't be any wacky deviations. Every "???" is a "starts to grow new feathers" message.

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Alright! Piggy-backing off of ZReport's data, I wanted to see if it takes the same amount of berries to hit Lavender if I feed them all in one go, so I just fed mine until I received 17 new feather messages. Will report back tomorrow morning. =)

It's starting to look like some colors can't be done in one go and need to see another color first. A lot of the snow white chocobo reports are done in two sessions; getting to sylph green first, then adding more plums for white. while others using the same number in one session are still just getting to sylph green.

Edit:
Making a second page on my spreadsheet taking information of moving between colors because of this.
Hopefully getting closer to figuring out how everyone can copy exact recipes ;_;
That millioncorn is a messsss

Someone sent me some information saying 19x feather procs didn't give them othard blue, but didn't mention the color it did result in.
Even without that information, it sounds like there's still rng after the feather proc and the message is just alerting us that a change will actually be taking place.

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Originally Posted by FadingMoon

I got pumpkin Orange which is close to sunset orange. How do I get sunset Orange from here? lol



Going to try 6 more apples
http://i.imgur.com/gIN3U89.png?1
Had to go 7 apples for the new feathers message to pop!
Stable conditions good
Weather overcast

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http://i.imgur.com/rFuOM3b.jpg?1

Result Sunset Orange <3

To my surprise, I got Snow White with nothing but Plums. 2 separate feedings, only 2 "feathers" messages. Has anyone else gotten the same? Do y'all think I could remove red any farther?

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No time stamp, sadly
Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
Chickyboo's plumage will change in 6 hours.
Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
Chickyboo is beginning to grow new feathers!
Chickyboo's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.

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Result: Sylph Green

8/23

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15:00 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:00 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:01 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:02 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:02 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:02 Chickyboo devours the Doman plum.
15:02 Chickyboo is beginning to grow new feathers!
15:02 Chickyboo's plumage will change in 5 hours and 57 minutes.

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Result: Snow White

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Originally Posted by Crankysorc

It's starting to look like some colors can't be done in one go and need to see another color first. A lot of the snow white chocobo reports are done in two sessions; getting to sylph green first, then adding more plums for white. while others using the same number in one session are still just getting to sylph green.

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I'm clearly need more coffee to have missed this. XD Ok, so theoretically achieving Snow White really is that easy. Still want to know if more red can be removed or not. ^^

eta: Scrolling back got me the answer. Thanks Levaeh! I'll update my list of recipes.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2383784

Started over on my chocobo in the name of science (and getting a Soot Black for giggles).
My general hypothesis is that first establishing a Grey color, then cycling through Apple > Berry > Pear to evenly apply RGB value is probably the best way to get it.
I only counted the fruits that gave plumage notices.

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Desert Yellow        215        183        87        0        0        0        84%        B6        1:15 PM
Aldgoat Brown        167        135        103        -48        -51        16        65%        B4 Plum1        7:40 PM
Goobbue Gray        135        135        135        -32        0        32        53%        A2 B2 P2 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1        1:57 AM
Lilac Purple        135        103        103        0        -32        -32        53%        B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1 A1 B1 P1        10:16 AM
Olive Green        87        87        55        -48        -16        -48                A9 B9 P8        4:52

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The first 3 numbers are RGB values, the second 3 is the difference from the prior color, and the % is the overall brightness value.

So for now Goobbue GrAy seems attainable with 10 successful Berries and 1 Plum (I used it as Aldgoat Brown still had a fairly high R value.
After feeding 4 of each darkener, it went from Goobbue Gray to Lilac Purple (a red hue). I'm assuming that the actual R stat is a little high, but rounded in favor of Gray the last color, so this round I fed 7 of blue/green but only 6 of red.
Ended up with Olive Green which means red=green but blue was reduced too much somehow *throws up hands* only thing I can figure is that the increases/decreases are random.

I am feeding just Valfruit

Colour of starting Subject: Desert Yellow
Stable condition: Good

Feed#1: 1xVal ---> Feather msg ---> 3xVal--->Feather msg
result: Salmon pink (as expected)

Feed#2: 1xVal ---> Feather msg ---> 1xVal --> Feather msg
result: Rose Pink (as expected)

Feed#3: 3xVal---> Feather msg
result: Coral Pink (that was unexpected)

Feed#4: 5xVal --->Feather msg
result: Colibri Pink (as expected)

Feed#5: 14xVal ---> Feather msg
result: Plum Purple (not anything near it expected)

So if you look into the rgb values:

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Name                      R      G      B
Desert Yellow                216        175      80
Salmon Pink                226        165        131
Rose Pink                228        153        144
Coral Pink                200        101        87
Colibri Pink                217        149        198
Plum Purple                114        75        101

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So jeah after the plum purple one i have no idea what the fruits do anymore. Every RGB value got lowered!?

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Originally Posted by Sadana

To my surprise, I got Snow White with nothing but Plums. 2 separate feedings, only 2 "feathers" messages. Has anyone else gotten the same? Do y'all think I could remove red any farther?

Result: Sylph Green

8/23


Result: Snow White

I'm clearly need more coffee to have missed this. XD Ok, so theoretically achieving Snow White really is that easy. Still want to know if more red can be removed or not. ^^

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I'm testing this out as we speak Sadana. (^_^ )

I'm also experimenting to reach a Soot Black one.

Here is what i got so far:

Desert Yellow --> 10 Berries (8 New Feather Messages) --> Goobue Grey

With this i could conclude that each fruit have a main increase, and it indeed does affect the other 2 values, positively or negatively by around 50% of the main increase/decrease.

Now, going from the assumption these are the fruit values are the ones proposed:

Apple +R -G -B
Pear -R +G -B
Berries -R -G +B

Plum -R +G +B
Valfruit +R -G +B
Pineapple +R +G -B

I decided to feed him even numbers of Berries, Pears and Apples, to try to keep the color balance in the scale, while getting a darker shade of grey, so i went with:

Goobue Grey --> 2 Berries --> 2 Pears --> 2 Apples (got the new feather message exactly on the last one) --> (???)

1 and a half hour left and I'll be able to check the results. If, as predicted, the next color goes as Slate Grey, then i'm positive it's possible to get Soot Black within 2 more feedings (even one, but i wanna still go down to charcoal grey first, to make sure it's working properly).

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Originally Posted by Sadana

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This is like the 6th time I've seen someone say they've gotten to white from 2 feedings and sylph green being a midpoint. :D

I feel like it's safe to say this should work every time and it will be the fastest way to get snow white from base.
I'll keep updating my second page on how to transition from one color to the next, preferably not using giant sums of fruits anymore.
I'll only be updating the original spreadsheet to give us a clue of what kind of fruits should be used if players wish to make a big jump.

@Kerberus:
You got the feather proc on only the last apple?
The berries and pears might not count if so.

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Originally Posted by Crankysorc

@Kerberus:
You got the feather proc on only the last apple?
The berries and pears might not count if so.

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Well, if my line of thinking is true, you only get a "new feathers" message when rounding gets closer to another color, but all fruits fed still affect the RGB values.

It also explains why sometimes results can't be reproduced, as 2 Chocobos can fall in the same color due to rounding and aproximation, but their ultimately "true" RGB Value is different, and may yeld different results in the long run.

It's just there wasn't a significant change in the RGB values to make rounding go to another color before the last apple, i think, since these 3 fruits kind of balance each other.

From experimentation, I'm sure at least berries works as follows: -- R | - G | +B


I'm not 100% sure on the other 2, but following logic, they should work as follows:
Apples: +R | --G | -B
Pears: -R | +G | --B

If this proves right feeding 2 of each like i did:
R G B
-2 -1 +1
-2 -1 +1
-1 +1 -2
-1 +1 -2
+1 -2 -1
+1 -2 -1
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-2 -2 -2

I should get a net result of color reduction by 2 levels, which i think is more or less the 30 i need to get to the next shade of grey.

Well, we'll see in 30 minutes XD

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Originally Posted by Kerberus

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It doesn't explain why it takes some people 15 tries to get a single feathers message and others only 2 when they're feeding one type of fruit from the same starting color. The true RGB color should start out the same for everyone on the first session.
If it were a matter of 'oh, its rng if it adds/subtracts 1-10 to the value', we would be seeing a lotttttt of no feather changes after the first proc. This would be easily noticed in someone's log who fed over 20 after the first feather message.
But only seen that happen to like 2 people so far and I suspect that's because they hit a cap and need to use other fruits if they want a change.
It's possible the rng is weighted to favor making enough of a change, just seems extremely unlikely atm.
Let us know when your chocobo's done cooking :P

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Originally Posted by Crankysorc

This is like the 6th time I've seen someone say they've gotten to white from 2 feedings and sylph green being a midpoint. :D

I feel like it's safe to say this should work every time and it will be the fastest way to get snow white from base. I'll keep updating my second page on how to transition from one color to the next, preferably not using giant sums of fruits anymore.

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I can confirm that this will not work every time, at least not with only two feedings. I'm still experimenting though.

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Originally Posted by Feldt

Colored mine into Honey Yellow with 6 Cieldalaes Pineapple, now I was giving him new fruit until a message about new feathers appear. I have given him 6 Xelphatol Apple until that msg. appeared and I stopped. I wonder what results will come out tomorrow :3 I bought those on markets so this experiment costs me quiet a lot >,< Also just in case a Han Lemon is growing in my FC yard.

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Millioncorn Yellow came out of this.

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Originally Posted by Jayne422

I can confirm that this will not work every time, at least not with only two feedings. I'm still experimenting though.

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Booo ;_;
what ended up happening?

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Originally Posted by Crankysorc

Booo ;_;
what ended up happening?

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First time I fed my bird, I fed it plums and got Sylph Green. I then fed it one apple in an attempt to take it back to Desert Yellow, which I managed. After that, I went back to plums to see where it would take me, and ended up with Snow White.

I tried to duplicate the snow white color (minus the apple from the first experiment). I feed it plums and the second time I ended up feeding it one less than the first time during the first session. During the second session, I had to feed it more plums to get the appropriate message. I ended up with Celeste Green.

If you check my original post, under the section for my personal experiments, there's a link to a google document where you can find more detailed notes on how I got what.

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Originally Posted by Jayne422

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Aaa no :c
I happened twice on your document, too.
Definitely looks like there's RNG then. Either in the amount it shifts the color, like Kerberus said, or there's a list of possible colors that the chocobo can become from using a fruit on a certain color and it picks one at random. x_x

I've skimmed these threads and not seen this mentioned anywhere...but there's a LOT of posts, so forgive me if I'm repeating something known/debunked here. The whole "plumage will change" message does not seem to be random at all. It's just a matter of waiting 1 real time minute before feeding them the next fruit. When I just shoveled the fruit into my chocobo as fast as I could, I never got any message past the initial one until 1 minute had passed. So far, I've been waiting at least 1 minute and have yet to not see the message pop each time I feed a fruit. Again, this seems so obvious I imagine it's already been played around with, but if not, there it is.

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Originally Posted by Kerberus

I'm also experimenting to reach a Soot Black one.

Here is what i got so far:

Desert Yellow --> 10 Berries (8 New Feather Messages) --> Goobue Grey

Goobue Grey --> 2 Berries --> 2 Pears --> 2 Apples (got the new feather message exactly on the last one) --> (???)

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Resulted in Shale Brown, which as said by our lala friend earlier is probably due to only the Apples having the "new Feather" effect.

Now proceeding to try again. trying to rebalance the RGB ratios while lowering the overal value again:

Shale Brown --> 5 Berries (4 "new feathers") --> 3 Pears ( 3 "new feathers") --> 1 Apple (1 "new feather") --> (???)

Will post the results again as soon as he's done.

My results so far:

Scope: In every stage I feed O'Ghomoro Berries until I get "Mnementh is beginning to grow new feathers!" message and then wait 6 hours.

Stable cleanliness: Good.
Chocobo rank: 10


Stage 1:
Starting colour: Desert Yellow
O'Ghomoro berries: 3

[8:48]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[8:48]Mnementh's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[8:48]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[8:49]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[8:49]Mnementh is beginning to grow new feathers!
[8:49]Mnementh's plumage will change in 5 hours and 58 minutes.

Result: Ul Brown

Stage 2:
Starting colour: Ul Brown
O'Ghomoro berries: 4

[14:58]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:58]Mnementh's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[14:58]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:58]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:59]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:59]Mnementh is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:59]Mnementh's plumage will change in 5 hours and 58 minutes.

Result: Gobbiebag Brown

Stage 3:
Starting colour: Gobbiebag Brown
O'Ghomoro berries: 2

[21:05]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[21:05]Mnementh's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[21:07]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[21:07]Mnementh is beginning to grow new feathers!
[21:07]Mnementh's plumage will change in 5 hours and 57 minutes.

Result: Shale Brown

Stage 4:
Starting colour: Shale Brown
O'Ghomoro berries: 1

[8:25]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[8:25]Mnementh's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[8:25]Mnementh is beginning to grow new feathers!

Result: Goobbue Grey

Stage 5:
Starting colour: Goobbue Grey
O'Ghomoro berries: 3

[14:32]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:32]Mnementh's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[14:32]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:32]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[14:32]Mnementh is beginning to grow new feathers!
[14:32]Mnementh's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.

Result: Lavender Purple

Stage 6:
Starting colour: Lavender Purple
O'Ghomoro berries: 7

[21:13]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[21:13]Mnementh's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[21:13]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[21:13]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[21:15]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[21:15]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[21:15]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[21:16]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[21:16]Mnementh is beginning to grow new feathers!
[21:16]Mnementh's plumage will change in 5 hours and 56 minutes.

Result: Raptor blue

Stage 7:
Starting colour: Raptor blue
O'Ghomoro berries: 2

[7:20]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[7:20]Mnementh's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[7:20]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[7:20]Mnementh is beginning to grow new feathers!
[7:20]Mnementh's plumage will change in 5 hours and 59 minutes.


Result: Othard Blue


Stage 8:
Starting colour: Othard Blue
Stable cleanliness: fair, clean staring with third berry.
O'Ghomoro berries: 6

17:51]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[17:51]Mnementh's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[17:51]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[17:52]The stable is now clean.
[17:53]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[17:53]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[17:53]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[17:54]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[17:54]Mnementh is beginning to grow new feathers!
[17:54]Mnementh's plumage will change in 5 hours and 57 minutes.

Result: Royal Blue

Stage 9:
Starting colour: Royal Blue
O'Ghomoro berries: 20

[6:14]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:14]Mnementh's plumage will change in 6 hours.
[6:14]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:15]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:15]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:15]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:15]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:15]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:16]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:16]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:16]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:17]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:17]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:17]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:17]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:17]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:18]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:18]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:19]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:19]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:19]Mnementh devours the bunch of O'Ghomoro berries.
[6:22]You fetch Mnementh from his stable.
[6:22]Mnementh has forgotten all about his food.


Result: after 20 O'Ghomoro berries no "New feathers" message. Chocobo was taken out of the stable.

Here O'Ghomoro berries experiment is concluded.

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

I've skimmed these threads and not seen this mentioned anywhere...but there's a LOT of posts, so forgive me if I'm repeating something known/debunked here. The whole "plumage will change" message does not seem to be random at all. It's just a matter of waiting 1 real time minute before feeding them the next fruit. When I just shoveled the fruit into my chocobo as fast as I could, I never got any message past the initial one until 1 minute had passed. So far, I've been waiting at least 1 minute and have yet to not see the message pop each time I feed a fruit. Again, this seems so obvious I imagine it's already been played around with, but if not, there it is.

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I've waited and the "feathers" message didn't pop. I still think it's RNG.

Trying plums here too, feeding until feathers message. There's definitely something going on we can't control, instead of Sylph Green I got Cream Yellow, haha. I think Cream Yellow is between Desert and Sylph, and I happened to hit that. I'm trying to get white.

1ST SESSION

Stable condition: Good
Starting color: Desert Yellow

1st plum: Devours the Doman plum. plumage will change in 6hrs
2nd plum: Devours the Doman plum.
3rd plum: Devours the Doman plum.
4th plum: Devours the Doman plum. Beginning to grow new feathers!

Result: Cream Yellow


2ND SESSION

Stable condition: Good
Starting color: Cream Yellow

1st plum: Devours the Doman plum. plumage will change in 6hrs
2nd plum: Devours the Doman plum. Beginning to grow new feathers!

Result: Bone White


3RD SESSION

Stable condition: Good
Starting color: Bone White

1st plum: Devours the Doman plum. Plumage will change in 6hrs. Beginning to grow new feathers!

Result: Sylph Green (Okay what?!)


4TH SESSION

Stable condition: Good
Starting color: Sylph Green

1st plum: Devours the Doman plum. plumage will change in 6hrs
2nd plum: Devours the Doman plum.
3rd plum: Devours the Doman plum. (went to purchase more)
4th plum: Devours the Doman plum. Beginning to grow new feathers!

Result: Snow White


Aaand I'll stop here since I got my Snow White :3 I took an interesting side route. Will inform when/if I change the color again~

My FC is very kind for offering up 2 of their chocobos for the experiment I'm going to run. When my other FC mate pops on he will feed his chocobo, Thanos, until he receives the first message. If results don't deviate from the feeding for the first two chocobos, will continue a 2nd feeding. The 3rd chocobo will then be fed mamook pears until 2 messages for feathers will appear.

My experiment is going to be single step, and multistep color changes involving one Snack Fruit at a time.

First Session
Subject 1:
Nyx / Rank 10 / Desert Yellow
Test:
Single Step
Fruit:
Mamook Pear
Stable Condition:
Good
How many attempts to receive message: "Nyx is beginning to grow new feathers!"
Mamook Pears x10
http://i.imgur.com/9UbaBTN.png
Result:
Lime Green

Subject 2:
Erytheia / Rank 6 / Desert Yellow
Test:
Single Step
Fruit:
Mamook Pear
Stable Condition:
Good
How many attempts to receive message: "Erytheia is beginning to grow new feathers!"
Mamook Pears x6
Result:
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Subject 3:
Thanos / Rank 10 / Desert Yellow
Test:
Tripple Step
Fruit:
Mamook Pear
Stable Condition:
Good
How many attempts to receive message: "Thanos is beginning to grow new feathers!"
Mamook Pears x10 ( 8th, 9th, and 10th received messages)
Result:
Cream Yellow

Thanos was a bit of an accident, but will remain on a step 3. Will see if single steps will catch up. Will report back in the morning with results on all 3 birds.

Second Session
Subject 1:
Nyx / Rank 10 / Lime Green
Test:
Single Step
Fruit:
Mamook Pear
Stable Condition:
Good
How many attempts to receive message: "Nyx is beginning to grow new feathers!"
Mamook Pears x4
Result:
Honey Yellow

Subject 2:
Erytheia / Rank 6 / ---
Test:
Single Step
Fruit:
Mamook Pear
Stable Condition:
Good
How many attempts to receive message: "Erytheia is beginning to grow new feathers!"
Mamook Pears ---
Result:
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Third Session
Subject 1:
Nyx / Rank 10 / Honey Yellow
Test:
Single Step
Fruit:
Mamook Pear
Stable Condition:
Good
How many attempts to recieve message: "Nyx is beginning to grow new feathers!"
Mamook Pears x3
Result:
Lime Green

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Originally Posted by Zerani

Trying plums here too, feeding until feathers message. There's definitely something going on we can't control, instead of Sylph Green I got Cream Yellow, haha. I think Cream Yellow is between Desert and Sylph, and I happened to hit that. Next one is possibly Sylph Green, or my chocobo may even skip that color. I'm trying to get white.

1ST SESSION

Stable condition: Good
Starting color: Desert Yellow

1st plum: Devours the Doman plum. plumage will change in 6hrs
2nd plum: Devours the Doman plum.
3rd plum: Devours the Doman plum.
4th plum: Devours the Doman plum. Beginning to grow new feathers!

Result: Cream Yellow

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Frankly... that's weird. O_o
Thus far, everyone I've seen that fed their birds Plums to 1 "feathers" message got Sylph Green.

And by 'weird', I mean 'NOOOOOOOOOOOO! ARRGGGGG! *headdesk*

eta: Git yer torch and pitchfork!

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...f893f2d506.jpg

abyssal + apple = rolanberry red ... going to try adding a pear since others reported adding a doman makes to regal purple

Any idea how to get to Rose Pink from Coral Pink? Apparently people have been going through the pink progressions with Valfruit, so you'd think going one back would take me there, but I got to Coral Pink from a brown with a Valfruit, so I'm thinking the opposite would just take me back to a brown. Unless I'm totally not getting what the fruits do.

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Originally Posted by stabbitystyle

Any idea how to get to Rose Pink from Coral Pink? Apparently people have been going through the pink progressions with Valfruit, so you'd think going one back would take me there, but I got to Coral Pink from a brown with a Valfruit, so I'm thinking the opposite would just take me back to a brown. Unless I'm totally not getting what the fruits do.

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Rose to Coral should require Valfruits to 1 "feathers" message. Check Shoki's post.

Oh, backwards... I would think you would want the "opposite" fruit. If Valfruit is -green, you would want the +green (someone check me on this please!).

eta: See 'outlier' message about re: you getting brown with Valfruit. XDDD

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Originally Posted by Sadana

Rose to Coral should require Valfruits to 1 "feathers" message. Check Shoki's post.

Oh, backwards... I would think you would want the "opposite" fruit.

eta: See 'outlier' message about re: you getting brown with Valfruit. XDDD

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Trying to get from Coral to Rose. I guess I worded it weirdly.

Doman Plums (lighten red), one feather message per 6h feeding session:

Desert Yellow (base)
4 Doman Plums (1 feather message)
Honey Yellow
1 Doman Plum (1 feather message)
Cream Yellow
9 Doman Plums (1 feather message)
Bone White
3 Doman Plums (1 feather message)
Snow White

http://oi60.tinypic.com/2iudcie.jpg

I started with this testing after some random tries. And because I didn't have a reset fruit i started with Millioncorn Yellow.
1 feather message = 1 field down

I dunno if this helps x_x but ill post it anyway

http://i.imgur.com/xP4fVOR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HQaqZf1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Felis

http://oi60.tinypic.com/2iudcie.jpg

I started with this testing after some random tries. And because I didn't have a reset fruit i started with Millioncorn Yellow.
1 feather message = 1 field down

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Um?

On my bird, I used plums to get from Desert Yellow > Sylph Green > Snow White (as did others). And here is the list from Lavaeh:

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Plums (every step stops with first "feathers" msg. Starts w/ Desert Yellow) Thanks to Lavaeh!
Sylph Green
Snow White
Ice Blue
Celeste Green

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(copied from my page 1 post)

I'm getting a little weirded out at the drastic differences in paths with the same fruit taken to only one 'step'. I will add that I did not take a field trip into any other color. I'm beginning to wonder if that makes the difference... and why and how?

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Originally Posted by Hihiyo

Ok I have found several posts of people getting Calibri pink with plums and valfruit - so I am trying my luck out as well - here is the log copy, time stamps are included - 7 Doman Plums with 4 procs & 8 Valfruit with 8 procs. Will post results in the morning.

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/...D26BBA406401D/

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well the 4 procs of Doman Plum Followed by 8 procs of Valfruit gave me - Salmon Pink

gave him one berry to dark up blue a bit and now be back in 6 hours.

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Originally Posted by LyricalMelody

You need to feed it Doman Plums until you get the "growing new feathers" message. Wait 6 hours and check.

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Just want to say that this worked.

Starting colour: Default desert yellow

First feeding: 1 O'Ghomoro berry
Result: Nada!
Second feeding: 2 O'Ghomoro berry - received message that the chocobo is growing new feathers
Result: Cork Brown
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps71f34864.png

Third feeding: 2 O'Ghomoro berry - received message that the chocobo is growing new feathers.
Result: Pending


Edit: My advice to everyone, do not mix so many fruits because it doesn't matter. I see posts from people giving about 12 fruits in total and got Cork Brown from default. It just took me 3 berries for that. So that's a waste of your fruit.
Stick with 1 type of fruit and then work your way from there. Feed them until you get the message 'starts growing new feathers'. That's when the colour will change.

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Originally Posted by dragonflie

Btw, I stop feeding after I get the 'growing new feather' msg.

Color aim: Apple Green
Feed 1: 7 pear - result: Lime green - proc: 1
Feed 2: 6 berries - prediction: sylph green (I hould have done doma plum instead I think)

Color Aim: Lotus Pink
Feed 1: 3 apples - result: Millicorn Yellow - proc: 1
Feed 2: 5 valfruit - prediction: Pumpkin Orange

Color Aim: Soot Black < another friend
Feed 1: 3 berries, 1 apple, 1 pear - prediction: bone white (my bet is it's the lighten fruit that will make black) - proc: 3

After I achieve my target color, I will retry the recipe in 1 sitting based on proc. If I can reproduce the result, then it will show that how many proc is needed to reproduce the recipe, rather then based on how many fruit is fed.

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Color Aim: Soot Black
Feed 1: 3 berries, 1 apple, 1 pear - result: Cork Brown - proc: 3
Feed 2: 1 berry, 4 apples, 1 pear

With my last try every value decreased :o
see http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2387664

So i don't think anymore that it's a RGB Value ~.~

Since I got the color I wanted, I wanted to try some experimental stuff, for the sake of my FC and science.

I tried to go apples exclusively, but that ended with only 3 color changes (as I run out of apples). However, with the disparity of results even with a control feeding, I wanted to just share my results for data:

(Desert Yellow) --> Used apples till 1st New Feathers (3 Total). Result = Millicorn Yellow.
(Millicorn Yellow) --> Used apples till 1st New Feathers (9 Total). Result = Pumpkin Orange.
(Pumpkin Orange) --> Used applies till 1st New Feathers (13 Total). Result = Sunset Orange.

I think that's relatively consistent with what I've seen posted so far, so that shouldnt be surprising.

However, may I throw out a suggestion? Since there seems to be a large disparity using Plums, would someone be willing to use apples if you were to get, say, Slyph Green, to see if it would produce Cream Yellow?

Just from eyeballing posts, it looks like the first +1/+2 steps, starting from Desert Yellow, have a chance at being skipped by some (Cream Yellow and Honey Yellow for this instance), and I wonder if added the colored removed would in fact bring you to the color that got skipped.

Which would mean there is some (small) randomness in the amount of color it gives per feed.

I've also been seeing this occurring with Berries, where the first new feathers message is producing UI Brown or Cork Brown, Cork Brown being a step behind UI Brown.

I would try it myself but I'm currently out of position to do a direct experiment right now.

Thanks again for everyone's contributions!

I've been running my own experiments trying to get to Turquoise Green from Raptor Blue one step at a time. I'm not having a lot of success and I'm not too sure how all these colour values work but I can provide some raw information for the rest of you because it seems like a lot of people working on one-step changes are in the yellows and pinks and not the blues.

Raptor Blue (START)
--> Fed 7 Pineapples (1 new feathers)
Seafog Blue
-->2 pineapple (1 msg)
Corpse Blue
-->4 pineapple (1 msg)
Celeste Green
-->7 Pear (1 msg)
Apple Green
-->1 Berry (1 msg)
Celeste Green

As you can tell I'm not really sticking with one fruit because recently my problem has been that my chocobo is simply too lightly coloured and I thought I needed to deepen the greens and blues but at the same time Celeste Green is very close to my ideal colour so I was hoping I could just darken everything at the same time. I'm not sure how to go about doing this.

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Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen

Was trying for Celeste Green, but I ended up with Apple Green, and I have to say... I really REALLY like it. It's very me~! So I am sticking with it. My Tsugaru is a very pretty boy now~! :D

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You might be interested to know that I was able to get to Celeste Green from apple green with O'Ghomoro Berries.