Regarding the legacy campaign announcement- New deadline?

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Originally Posted by Aklag

Yep... They really should take the Legacy Campaign banner off of the main page since it is now imposible to actully qualify for it. If you did not get in you aren't getting in. I guess it just upsets me that the only thing keeping me from getting qualified is a "free" trial that I would gladly give up now if it meant I could qualify for the subscription deadline.

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Actually no. Some people can still qualify for them. Returning players bought the game way before may 31s but never paid for subscription could still reactivate and get a 90 day sub and get legacy status.

Not sure if you're legacy or not?
Buy 90 days! I don't see how you CAN'T be legacy if you do that.

I bought 90 days, and now a legacy icon is showing up on my character at login.

If you bought 90 days but didn't register your game before May 31st, you still won't get legacy.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

If you bought 90 days but didn't register your game before May 31st, you still won't get legacy.

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Oh :/ So those people are just locked out forever then?

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Originally Posted by Mirage

If you bought 90 days but didn't register your game before May 31st, you still won't get legacy.

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So, I got the game last week and I subbed for 90 days, yet I'm not part of the legacy campaign? Then why they still have the banner on the main page?

I'm just glad that they still haven't billed me on the subscription, because I'll cancel it right away.

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Originally Posted by Soothewind

So, I got the game last week and I subbed for 90 days, yet I'm not part of the legacy campaign? Then why they still have the banner on the main page?

I'm just glad that they still haven't billed me on the subscription, because I'll cancel it right away.

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Right, you're not. Scroll down that Lodestone front page a bit and you'll see the May 31st announcement.

The problem I have with this is the wording. The way it reads indicates that anyone who bought the game during, or after, May and registered for 90 days before June 30th will be eligible. It says "as of", which can also be used as,

"As of July 1st, the 90 day subscription option will no longer be available".

Furthermore, it says nothing about paying for the 90 days before July. The announcement only mentions registration. Last I checked, registration does not necessitate payment. Now I am not sure if they are changing their deadline, or what exactly is happening, but I will be reading through this thread to see if there is any more clarification. All-in-all, this might be very disappointing for some people.

I see nothing deceiving about this wording:

In order to fulfill the requirements for the Legacy Campaign, a player must register his/her copy of the game no later than Thursday, May 31, 2012, and have subscribed for a minimum of 90 days beyond the conclusion of your free trial period.

This was an announcement in May on the front page. Go The Lodestone front page, scroll all the way down > click "past topics" > May topics > very first one.

Edit: It's not that you have to pay for 90 days before July, it's that the option to pay for 90 days is going away, which is the only way to qualify for Legacy for some people (who still registered before May 31, 2012.

I understand that there was an announcement on the front page, I really do. However, announcing one thing does not mean those conditions cannot be changed. The bottom line is that the new announcement is confusing, because terms for an agreement can change, especially if it favors the paying party. Also, the May 31st announcement is no longer on the front page. This will confuse new people even more. There needs to be better clarification on this.

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Originally Posted by Alicia_WM

Oh :/ So those people are just locked out forever then?

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yes, which is exactly what the legacy notice told us every single time it was posted, must be registered before may 31st

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Originally Posted by Saryn

I understand that there was an announcement on the front page, I really do. However, announcing one thing does not mean those conditions cannot be changed. The bottom line is that the new announcement is confusing, because terms for an agreement can change, especially if it favors the paying party. Also, the May 31st announcement is no longer on the front page. This will confuse new people even more. There needs to be better clarification on this.

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The new announcement is not confusing, it's explaining the 90 day option to those that were already registered. Not everyone registered before May 31 has been billed necessarily, could be someone who left before the start of billing in Nov/Dec 2011, so the 90 days is the only option for those people to qualify. They just wanted to make them aware that it is going away and to take advantage of it now if they needed it. Nothing changed regarding the deadline.

Technically, no, the 90 day option is not the only possible option if the person registered in May. If the 2.0 beta begins in early October (as I have read in a number of places, these forums included), then there is no need to announce that the billing is going to change on how it can affect eligibility for the program. There are over 90 days from the end of June, until the beginning of October. To say that not registering for the 90 day time period will cause you to miss on legacy would infer that the beta might start before October (which I suppose is possible). The beta starting in September would be the only way that the announcement would make sense.

Additionally, this still doesn't explain the poor use of wording. The phrase "as of" can be taken in a couple of ways... the most common of which is a start date moving forward, such as my previous example. Regardless, I am not going to cry about losing Legacy... I will still have my Goobbue mount, and that's "Legacy" enough for me. Five bucks a month won't break my bank.

It's not that bad anyway. The way it looks now, you'll still get one character on up to 8 servers for the basic service fee which is just one dollar more than the legacy service fee. Of course, legacy members get 8 per server, but then again, they also had to deal with a game that was released in a terrible state.

If you want even more, the service plan with 8 characters per servers, up to 40 characters total, seems like it's going to cost 12.99. This pricing is competitive with most other MMOs on the market today, so I don't think we have much to complain about when it comes to subscription fees.

Bottom line is, even without legacy campaign, you still get more characters for your 11 bucks basic service in FF14 than you did for 13 bucks in FF11. The "new" service plans are also much better than the initial FF14 plans, which were something like 12 dollars for *one* character, and 3 dollars extra for each additional character.

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

lol really?

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I agree lol, been reading this just for giggles. 60 + 30 = 90? i never knew!

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Originally Posted by Saryn

The problem I have with this is the wording. The way it reads indicates that anyone who bought the game during, or after, May and registered for 90 days before June 30th will be eligible. It says "as of", which can also be used as,

"As of July 1st, the 90 day subscription option will no longer be available".

Furthermore, it says nothing about paying for the 90 days before July. The announcement only mentions registration. Last I checked, registration does not necessitate payment. Now I am not sure if they are changing their deadline, or what exactly is happening, but I will be reading through this thread to see if there is any more clarification. All-in-all, this might be very disappointing for some people.

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I agree with you about the wording and I already mentioned it earlier in this topic, and I think the same guy responded to me as well. Some people just get one idea in their mind and are unable to see it through the eyes of another, unfortunately. Where I grew up, the phrase 'as of' pretty much exclusively meant "on or after"

"personal checks written as of May 31, 2012, will no longer be accepted"
"Students registering for classes as of May 31, 2012, will require permission from the course instructor."
etc.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

Actually no. Some people can still qualify for them. Returning players bought the game way before may 31s but never paid for subscription could still reactivate and get a 90 day sub and get legacy status.

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Ok, then they should warn new customers about the May 31st deadline ON THAT PAGE. There were a few of us that read that page and took what it said to be true. The fact is, that the Legacy Campaign details page contains detailed information that contradicts the May 31st registration deadline. http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl...001.png?_v=8k0

This page states very clearly that ANYONE that pays for 90 days between January 6th, 2012 and beginning of beta, is eligible. NOTHING on this page mentions, or even links to, any content stating the May 31st deadline. Some of us came to the main page, saw the Legacy banner, clicked it, and decided that we would start now, instead of waiting for 2.0. Only after purchasing the game did we find out that the information on the actual Legacy Campaign page itself is wrong.

Definitely not wrong, however I do understand that the information is not there due to new updates on the front page of The Lodestone. Did you buy the game only to get Legacy status? If so I think you're doing it wrong.

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/a...aru/Legacy.png

Aklag, again, I agree 100%, in fact that's what lead to my initial confusion. I saw THAT page first. On THAT page, it clearly states that I am eligible for legacy status. But on other pages, it provides additional qualifiers that can change your initial understanding.

It shouldn't be the customers' responsibility to synchronize all of Square Enix's sources so they convey one unilateral meaning.

But I also learned awhile back in this topic that reasoning with Jekyll was not worth my time.

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Originally Posted by FelixTrapper

Aklag, again, I agree 100%, in fact that's what lead to my initial confusion. I saw THAT page first. On THAT page, it clearly states that I am eligible for legacy status. But on other pages, it provides additional qualifiers that can change your initial understanding.

It shouldn't be the customers' responsibility to synchronize all of Square Enix's sources so they convey one unilateral meaning.

But I also learned awhile back in this topic that reasoning with Jekyll was not worth my time.

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Because obviously its up to me to decide your Legacy status? Only reason I keep watching this topic is to help people understand that they won't be getting anything, or if they will, how they can make it happen. Unless SE changes the requirements ,it is what it is, so what's the point of complaining?
Again, if you just recently bought the game just to get a discount on a subscription, you're doing it wrong.

Someone will bring up the point: "Well, we bought it now to save money when 2.0 comes out."
If that's the case, you probably would've bought the game come 2.0 anyway, with or without Legacy status.

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Originally Posted by Jekyll

Because obviously its up to me to decide your Legacy status? Only reason I keep watching this topic is to help people understand that they won't be getting anything, or if they will, how they can make it happen. Unless SE changes the requirements it is what it is, so what's the point of complaining?

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Well, my purpose is to hopefully persuade SE to update all portions of their site that talk about Legacy Status so they are in agreement with eachother. By doing that, they can prevent any future incidents where players buy the game under the false impression that they are eligible for legacy status, similar to Aklag's situation.

It's really a very basic concept. You log on to the site, you click that legacy link. It says if you sign up for 90 days before June 30, you get the discount. So you get excited and buy the game, and sign up for 90 days. Do you get the discount? No. Why? Because on different webpages, it says you had to have registered before May 31.

I don't care anymore that I'm not getting legacy--that's fine. Just be professional and have consistent information throughout your website.

You're right. No sense in arguing either way. Truth is the Legacy page should either be updated or taken down altogether in order to avoid any further confusion by people buying the game in the near future hoping to get the discount. Maybe I'm just strict on reading the fine print.

No sense in continuing this thread unless there is any further questions from someone wanting to know if they qualify.

Bottom line: SE: Please update your Legacy page to reflect the May 31st deadline.

No, I bought the game because I missed playing what I consider to be a challenging MMO. My first MMO was FFXI. I played for about 3 years before I went to WOW. WOW is fun and has it's strong points, but frankly, it is like playing a game with training wheels. There is no risk involved. Synth always works, you can not delevel by death, etc. Almost every other game out there is trying their best to be WOW. I want something original, challenging, and fun. Because of the lack of trainign wheels in their games, the FF games tend to develop vast communities of helpful and friendly players. You just do not see that anywhere else.

That being said, I was in the process of verifying that my system will run this game, I needed the benchmark. While browsing I had seen reference to 2.0. This made me hesitate. I almost did not buy the game because they are reworking it again. So, I was back to deciding if I wanted to buy it now, and play a game that is not ready by the dev's standards, or just wait. While looking for the benchmark I found the Legacy Campaign. For me, it is not about the price plans. For me it is about the chocobo, period. So, when I saw that I could qualify for a rare chocobo, that you can only get via the Legacy Campaign, I was stoked! Sure alot of you have been here since the beginning. Myself, I have been waiting as long but I had real life issues to deal with. When you are in the middle of a divorce, playing FF just is not a priority. a have reached a point where I am ready to come back. I miss being around players that actually care about helping the new guys, and not just mocking them because they aren't "Leet". Framkly, in FFXI even the most elite player faceplanted if they caught agro while traveling to a group and couldn't out run that Goblin that could out run them... I know this is a long and rambling answer to your question but I feel that maybe you underestimate us. We didn't just arrive at this nice and shiny destination known as the Internet, or at this website, by accident. Any FF fan that stood in line for 24+ hours to get FFVII at release has probably been waiting for SE to get this release back up to speed. I just felt like maybe it was time. And if I could get into Legacy because I started now instead of waiting for 2.0 launch, great! But to tell me I can qualify and then tell me I can't, even though the page still says I can... That is unfair, in my opinion. So, before you say I am not entitled because I jsut started THIS game, ask yourself how long I have been waiting for the game that still isn't working as planned, to get fixed. SE is working hard to get 2.0 finished. Great! To me, anyone that supports those efforts by becoming a paying customer, should be a part of that Legacy. If you think I am wrong, fine, that is still your opinion. I will respect it. But the simple fact is that you can not say one thing on the Legacy Campaign page and then say something else and not update that page, and expect the new players not to be upset because you showed us the nice shiny chocobo, etc and then you took it away.

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Originally Posted by Jekyll

You're right. No sense in arguing either way. Truth is the Legacy page should either be updated or taken down altogether in order to avoid any further confusion by people buying the game in the near future hoping to get the discount. Maybe I'm just strict on reading the fine print.

No sense in continuing this thread unless there is any further questions from someone wanting to know if they qualify.

Bottom line: SE: Please update your Legacy page to reflect the May 31st deadline.

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Exactly. That was my point. If I am not in Legacy, ok. But anyone new that sees that page will make the same mistake as me. Yes, I will play 2.0 with or without Legacy status. I don't care about the discounts. I would gladly pay $15 a month for the basic service. I only need one character... I just mourn the loss of my nice shiny chocobo lol.

Either way, I am having a blast playing, even if it is "broken". I am here to stay. I just wanted to make my point that the page is misleading.


Now, if I could just find a LS! LOL

So I changed from the 30 day to 90 day package but I wont be billed till the 14th will I be Eligible? My account was registered when the game first came out but I stopped playing because I couldnt play due to my comp not being good enough.

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Originally Posted by Rydia

So I changed from the 30 day to 90 day package but I wont be billed till the 14th will I be Eligible? My account was registered when the game first came out but I stopped playing because I couldnt play due to my comp not being good enough.

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You will be fine.

I started April 20th when they announced Legacy... how am I going to fare? I won't be at 90 days of pay service till July 20th.

You'll be fine too.

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Originally Posted by Jekyll

You will be fine.

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Thank you

.... LOL i just tried to tab that into auto translate.

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Originally Posted by Rydia

Thank you

.... LOL i just tried to tab that into auto translate.

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ROFL I'm glad to see I am not the only person that does that.

I've been trying to read through this thread to figure this out by myself, and I'm just getting confused.

Right now, it seems that the May 31st deadline is only for those who had NEVER registered their game? I bought this game last year and played for a little while and then quit. I paid for 30 days on June 9th, and after reading about the legacy status today, signed up for 90 days (however, I won't be billed until July 9th). Does that mean my account is not eligible for Legacy? I had the impression that as long as you signed up for 90 days BEFORE June 30th, you were fine (even if billing occurred later), but after reading through this thread, I'm not so sure anymore.

Oh well, game is fun, I guess that's what matters (just wanted that Chocobo, hahaha). Should have read about it when I came back!

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Originally Posted by Syldra

I've been trying to read through this thread to figure this out by myself, and I'm just getting confused.

Right now, it seems that the May 31st deadline is only for those who had NEVER registered their game? I bought this game last year and played for a little while and then quit. I paid for 30 days on June 9th, and after reading about the legacy status today, signed up for 90 days (however, I won't be billed until July 9th). Does that mean my account is not eligible for Legacy? I had the impression that as long as you signed up for 90 days BEFORE June 30th, you were fine (even if billing occurred later), but after reading through this thread, I'm not so sure anymore.

Oh well, game is fun, I guess that's what matters (just wanted that Chocobo, hahaha). Should have read about it when I came back!

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You should be fine. If you started paying before the end of June, and continue paying until September, you'll get into Legacy (whether you buy a 90-day option or keep up your 30-day recurring). The May 31st deadline was because the 30 days of time included with a new copy of the game don't count towards Legacy.

(Which means I just missed it.)

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Originally Posted by Aklag

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For me, it is not about the price plans. For me it is about the chocobo, period. So, when I saw that I could qualify for a rare chocobo, that you can only get via the Legacy Campaign, I was stoked! Sure alot of you have been here since the beginning. Myself, I have been waiting as long but I had real life issues to deal with. ...

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For me neither, I'm just pretty sure THAT rare chocobo will be female...

As for IRL, my mind was blown to see how I didn't know about the 90 day sub option, so I clicked it with around 9k crysta in my account. I also still play FFxi for friends still there. I want to see if a new expansion will be released.

Good luck in IRL but be true to FF! ^^ V

For those who have gotten the Legacy bonus, about how long does it take for the email saying you're eligible for the Legacy discount to arrive? I didn't purchase my 90 days until my last payment period depleted last night, so I should have 3 days to spare, but due to old SE email arrival times I am a bit scared. That said, a friend's Legacy option came through within a minute of adding his 90 days.

No issues with the May qualifier; my copy's been registered since last year.

Is it still possible to become a legacy member if you started your free trial in June and purchased the 90 day before June 30?

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Originally Posted by Libara

Is it still possible to become a legacy member if you started your free trial in June and purchased the 90 day before June 30?

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I'd like to know this too. I bought and began the game June 15th. If I buy the 90day pack, can we still make it to Legacy?

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Originally Posted by CurryUdon

I'd like to know this too. I bought and began the game June 15th. If I buy the 90day pack, can we still make it to Legacy?

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Sorry, if you did not register before May 31st you cannot qualify for Legacy.

http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/a...aru/Legacy.png

Ah, okay! Thanks for clearing that up! It was really confusing with all these deadlines and stuff ;_;

I wouldn't fret because those who are positive in the face of adversity will receive a more rewarding experience and be recognized. I don't know how but I'm sure while SE is reading this, their cooking up something for those who did subscribe for all the right reasons even though they didn't make it on time for the Legacy Campaign.

(....and rare Chocobo)

B)

Ok so, here's my scenario, I had 1000 crysta that I bought back in oct of last year, then I quit and never used the crysta, I then reactivated my account last month, I bought more crysta and applied it, so now ive used 2k crysta which equals two months basically, I bought a third 1k of crysta, but I cant seem to apply it, and even if I do will this count towards my 90 days? Please someone let me know asap. :)

:( I'm sorry you're so disappointed about Legacy status. Sounds like you were really looking forward to it.

But stick with it! Legacy chocobos are a vanity hand out. Eventually everyone will be using/riding chocos that they've raised. ^^