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Regarding gathering changes they mentioned along with the recipe changes rep responded for reason why the gathering items has been modified.

Original Thread Link: http://goo.gl/Vjf9P

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Originally Posted by Mocchi

こんにちは。
Hello,

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レシピ改修の案内の中の採集の獲得アイテム変更という項目で、
例えば採掘・ビアデッドロック周辺では
On the section regarding gathering item changes for example in bearded rock area for mining it shows

　錫鉱、アルメン、硫黄
Tin Ore, Alumen, Brimstone

となってますが、これはもうここからはこの３種類しか採れなくなるという意味なんでしょうか。
Does that mean only above three items can be mined from now on in this area?

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はい、そのように変更されます。
Yes, that is how it will be changed.

今回の採集獲得アイテムの見直しについては、採りたいものを狙って採れるようにするため、エリアごとにテーマを設け、アイテムの種類を絞りシンプルになるように変更されます。
This times gathering item changes are made so you can try and aim to gather the item you want, and having a theme in each area, narrowing down the types of items and making it simple.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Regarding gathering changes they mentioned along with the recipe changes rep responded for reason why the gathering items has been modified.

Original Thread Link: http://goo.gl/Vjf9P

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Heck yes !

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Regarding gathering changes they mentioned along with the recipe changes rep responded for reason why the gathering items has been modified.

Original Thread Link: http://goo.gl/Vjf9P

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Finally no random crap from everywhere....

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Regarding gathering changes they mentioned along with the recipe changes rep responded for reason why the gathering items has been modified.

Original Thread Link: http://goo.gl/Vjf9P

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Looks like they don't even know what they are changing.
You can aim for specific items even now, only that it takes effort and it's fun >.>

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Originally Posted by Alcide

Looks like they don't even know what they are changing.
You can aim for specific items even now, only that it takes effort and it's fun >.>

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True, you can, but currently you still end up with a boat-load of crap that you don't even want, and then you end up having to either sit and throw stuff out of your inventory or make a trip back to town to NPC it. I welcome these changes to help alleviate the excess garbage from mining.

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Originally Posted by Alcide

Looks like they don't even know what they are changing.
You can aim for specific items even now, only that it takes effort and it's fun >.>

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And even then you still get branches or freaking eagle feathers when you want something else ><

Reducing the number of items at an area = less "noise" items.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

And even then you still get branches or freaking eagle feathers when you want something else ><

Reducing the number of items at an area = less "noise" items.

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Also remember we're getting an extra 100 inventory slots and 50 slots per retainer, so the noise items won't be such a problem anymore :)

I support less noise items. I was just talking about this with some LS members a day or so ago...and it'll help for people to fill their retainer with specific category items so they dont have to keep changing wards from one trip. Go mining and go straight to Mason ward.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Also remember we're getting an extra 100 inventory slots and 50 slots per retainer, so the noise items won't be such a problem anymore :)

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Inventory space isn't the problem, its wasting time not getting the item I need even if I'm marking the notch at the correct spot.

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Originally Posted by Reaujien

True, you can, but currently you still end up with a boat-load of crap that you don't even want, and then you end up having to either sit and throw stuff out of your inventory or make a trip back to town to NPC it. I welcome these changes to help alleviate the excess garbage from mining.

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Originally Posted by Reaujien

True, you can, but currently you still end up with a boat-load of crap that you don't even want, and then you end up having to either sit and throw stuff out of your inventory or make a trip back to town to NPC it. I welcome these changes to help alleviate the excess garbage from mining.

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Well almost all of the stuff used to be usefull for something... I remember when I was grinding carpenter on walnut and I used to gather the logs myself, I gathered along with them a lot of mats usefull for cul and weaver wich I used to give for free to my mates, but I could have sold them and make good profit while getting my own logs to grind.

There was way too many items tho, a good percentage of what I got ended up trashed, but still limiting 1 whole area to just 3-4 items imho is too much, it takes away the bit of fun there's in gathering, i really enjoyed memorizing the spawn pattern of the area, the sweet spots and everything else.

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Originally Posted by Alcide

Looks like they don't even know what they are changing.
You can aim for specific items even now, only that it takes effort and it's fun >.>

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Yeah, hitting the sweet spot for a log but getting Lemons every single attempt sure is fun. (not)

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There was way too many items tho, a good percentage of what I got ended up trashed, but still limiting 1 whole area to just 3-4 items imho is too much, it takes away the bit of fun there's in gathering, i really enjoyed memorizing the spawn pattern of the area, the sweet spots and everything else.

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Why can there be no sweet spots and spawn patterns anymore?

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Why can there be no sweet spots and spawn patterns anymore?

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Uhm because there's just 1 type of logging/mining point per area? o.O

Sweet spots are undoubtedly still in.

that famitsu with jobs is been released yet ?

This one talks about the recipe changes that was posted last night which some players had concerns about + 1 error the devs had and players catched it.

Original Thread Link:http://goo.gl/LPVDx

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Originally Posted by Triairy

こんばんは。
Good Evening,

旧レシピ（現行のレシピ）についてですが、パッチ1.19では削除されること はなく、今後も引き続き旧レシピを使用しての製作が可能です。ただし、すぐではありませんが、ある程度の期間でこの旧レシピは削除されます。削除されると 旧レシピを使用しての製作ができなくなります。なお、それまでに旧レシピで製作したアイテムに関しては、旧レシピが削除されても、無くなることはありませ ん。（かばんなどからシステム的に削除するということもありません。）
Regarding old recipe's; it will not be removed at patch 1.19, you will still be able to use the old recipe to craft. However not right away but after some time these old recipe's will be deleted. Once deleted you will not be able to craft using the old recipes. Until then the items crafted using the old recipes will remain even after the old recipes are deleted. (We will not delete from your inventory though system.)

そして「新レシピで使用しなくなるアイテム 」についてですが、これはパッチ1.19で追加される新レシピでの製作ではこのアイテムは使用しなくなるということで、旧レシピではこのアイ テムを使用して引き続き製作することが可能です。
Regarding materials that will not be used anymore, with new recipes introduced in 1.19 these old materials will not be used but you can still use them using the old recipes to craft.

ただし、

• 鍛冶師：カッパーインゴット - Smithing - Copper Ingot
• 甲冑師：カッパーインゴット - Armorer - Copper Ingot

この2つに限っては、パッチ1.19で旧レシピからも削除されます。
※鍛治師／甲冑師のカッパーインゴットを製作するレシピについては、今後、両クラスでカッパーインゴットを基本的な素材として使用しなくなり、このレシピが残り続けるとバランスが崩れてしまうためです。
However, above two will be deleted from patch 1.19.
*Smithing/Armorer will not use copper ingot as a base material and keeping this recipe will break the balance.

また、「レシピ変更」に記載している、旧レシピの一部レシピはパッチ1.19でレシピが変更されます。
※これは記述が足りなかったため、表記を「旧レシピにおけるレシピ変更」に変更させていただきました。
Also with recipe changes there are some old recipes that will be modified with 1.19 patch.
*This was lacking description and have been changed to Old Recipes with recipe changes in the list (Dunno if this is same for NA one, might just be for JP info??)

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錬金術と調理は新レシピないのでしょうか？
There are no new recipe for Alchemist and Culinarians?

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パッチ1.19のレシピ改修は、錬成、調理以外になります。
錬成、調理のレシピ改修については次回以降のパッチにて実施いたします。
Patch 1.19 recipe changes are for other than Alchemist and Culinarians.
For Alchemist and Culinarians we are have new recipe changes in later patch.

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作ろうと思ってて気になった部分なんですが、
露糸は、新レシピで１度に３個できるようですが、変更の方を見ると１個になってますね。
これって、新レシピは１度座って３回分できるって事でしょうか？
材料も３倍のようですし。。。。
I was planning to make and was wondering but for "Dew Thread" the new recipe shows it can make 3 with one craft but when looking at the changes it shows as 1.
Does this mean with new recipe you just need to craft once and it makes 3x? Looks like the material is tripled as well...

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はい、(×3)になっているものは、1回の製作で3個作ることができます。
Yes, for those that show (x3) you craft once and it will make 3.

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ドロップしなくなるアイテムにプークの翼があるのですが、
これを使用したレシピにエーテルがあります
エーテルは今後作成できなくなるんでしょうか？
In the list for items that will not drop there is Puk Wing but Ether uses this material.
Does this mean we can't make Ether anymore?

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エーテルが作成できなくなってしまう件について、開発チームに報告しました。
プークの翼については、1.19に間に合うよう早急にドロップしなくなるアイテムから、
除外するよう対応を行いますとのことです。ご報告ありがとうございました。
I have reported the above to the dev team.
For Puk Wings they will make quick change so item is removed from the list of items that will be removed to make it with 1.19 patch. Thank you for reporting.

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Originally Posted by Alcide

Uhm because there's just 1 type of logging/mining point per area? o.O

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That still doesn't mean there won't be sweet spots or spawn patterns anymore. From what we know so far they're just reducing the overall number of different items attained in a given area to just 3 or 4 different items.

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Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie

Please! Seriously, it's getting to where we have to wade through pages between translations now.

Rein, thanks for your efforts. it is a great thing you do.

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/nod agreed my fault for starting to talk about that guy from SE leaving lol sorry.
I try to update the OP and few posts after OP with links to the new translations I posted so you can try there also but I only update that part after I finish the translations for the day so if you want fresh/new translations right away still have to comb through other peoples post, just scroll through and stop whenever you see flashing sexy rainbow subligar lol.

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Originally Posted by Reaujien

That still doesn't mean there won't be sweet spots or spawn patterns anymore. From what we know so far they're just reducing the overall number of different items attained in a given area to just 3 or 4 different items.

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no problem with sweet spots (I never said they're going to be scrapped, I just said they were A PART of the gathering process that I enjoyed) but spawn pattern? The whole purpose of it is that you have to remember wich logging/mining point is yelding what you're looking for, so once you get confident with the area you already know wich point to gather and wich to avoid, where to go when a point is extinguished and how to "control" the spawn of certain points, wich for me was something entertaining while otherwise I was doing something boring and repetitive (it's not like hitting always the same button on the same spot for every tree is fun...).

If there is only 1 type of logging/mining point there's just no need for that, everytime you see a point in a certain area you already know what you're gonna get and once you're finished with a point you just have to move to the closest one and do the same thing again. IMHO the best solution would have been to make every point yeld 3-4 items (like they will in 1.19) but to but 2-3 different kinds of logging/mining point in the same area so that the whole process is not frustrating (like it kinda is now sometimes ^^') but still entertaining and not boring.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Self-teaching is the only way to learn the language. Classes are for weeaboos.

All you need is a 20 buck book, internet access and patience.

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I completely disagree with this. There's a reason children are sent to school rather than given a few books to read at home.

While you can't rely solely on a class and some self study is needed, if all you have is a few books how are you going to get the correct pronunciation in your speaking? Check your practice is correct. Sure, you can check an answer in the back of a book but that's nothing compared to being able to write freestyle and have someone, especially a native speaker, check if what you're saying is correct.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

/nod agreed my fault for starting to talk about that guy from SE leaving lol sorry.
I try to update the OP and few posts after OP with links to the new translations I posted so you can try there also but I only update that part after I finish the translations for the day so if you want fresh/new translations right away still have to comb through other peoples post, just scroll through and stop whenever you see flashing sexy rainbow subligar lol.

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I swear that subligar must be some kind of multi-purpose tool or something :p

Also for gathering don't forget YoshiP said before they wanted to make it so if you wear certain stat gear it will result in more of one type of item over others available at that spot, put that together with this 3-4 items per area.

STR gear = 1 item, VIT gear = 1 item etc... can try to concentrate just getting that one item from these 3-4 items...

I guess it's good, can go back to mining again... haven't touched in a long time lol.

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Originally Posted by Kafeen

I completely disagree with this. There's a reason children are sent to school rather than given a few books to read at home.

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Children don't know how to learn on their own.

Are you a child? In that case go to school.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Also for gathering don't forget YoshiP said before they wanted to make it so if you wear certain stat gear it will result in more of one type of item over others available at that spot, put that together with this 3-4 items per area.

STR gear = 1 item, VIT gear = 1 item etc... can try to concentrate just getting that one item from these 3-4 items...

I guess it's good, can go back to mining again... haven't touched in a long time lol.

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There's also those gathering abilities that increase the chance of getting certain items from sweet-spots, unless they're planning to remove them.

For those that wants to learn Japanese... what I always tell my friends... specially easier now than before... although sometimes translations are wrong..

1. Go find a hiragana/katakana cheat sheet... I made one before but can't find it lol.
2. Go buy both Japanese version and English version of a manga you like and start reading page by page side by side.
Easier Japanese manga's have something called Furigana next to kanji characters so you can read it in hiragana/katakana.

At least one of my friends did this and in 3 month time the dude started borrowing my JP version games (since they release earlier in Japan) and finished playing on his own.... crazy dude...

Anything is possible if you work your butt off :)

I need to work my butt off to learn game programming.... no time... orz

sorry gonna stop posting lol off topic again wwww

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Originally Posted by Alcide

... but spawn pattern? The whole purpose of it is that-

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Yes, yes, I know what spawn patterns are.

Apparently our interpretations of the announced changes are quite different, and we won't know for certain the effects of the changes until the 4th (assuming it's not delayed) or unless a dev responds to a question specifically addressing "spawn patterns" post 1.19.

Until either happens, I'm just going to assume business as usual with the exception of having less unwanted items at the end of the day.

Honestly guys, if you feel the need to discuss anything please go to another thread or make a new thread. There are many people subscribed to this thread that expect to see translations when it pops up in their sub-box. It's disappointing to constantly see otherwise.

Rein, thanks for the hard work. Your translations are most appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

For those that wants to learn Japanese... what I always tell my friends... specially easier now than before... although sometimes translations are wrong..

1. Go find a hiragana/katakana cheat sheet... I made one before but can't find it lol.
2. Go buy both Japanese version and English version of a manga you like and start reading page by page side by side.
Easier Japanese manga's have something called Furigana next to kanji characters so you can read it in hiragana/katakana.

At least one of my friends did this and in 3 month time the dude started borrowing my JP version games (since they release earlier in Japan) and finished playing on his own.... crazy dude...

Anything is possible if you work your butt off :)

I need to work my butt off to learn game programming.... no time... orz

sorry gonna stop posting lol off topic again wwww

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Thanks for the tip Rein ^.^

I was trying to use anime to teach me to speak it, so yeah it makes sense that manga would be a way to learn to write it. A fun and enjoyable way at least. :D

Back to topic...

@Reinheart, Could you see if there's any dev replies (or any Japanese side questions for that matter) about Canvas gear? I.e. are they all going to become collectors items because they can no longer be made, or are the listed crafting changes simply a "sample" and there are more recipes that are not listed?

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Originally Posted by Letrange

@Reinheart, Could you see if there's any dev replies (or any Japanese side questions for that matter) about Canvas gear? I.e. are they all going to become collectors items because they can no longer be made, or are the listed crafting changes simply a "sample" and there are more recipes that are not listed?

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could be an error like the Ether material Puk Wing being in the deleted item list.
I can post that one on the JP side to see if reps can report it, it's missing material?? or just missing recipe (checking right now lol)

Posted on JP side, I'm guessing they just forgot to add the recipe in there (no response from rep, just guessing lol)

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Originally Posted by Colino

Oh what a load of crap, please.

You say that like every japanese citizen is some sort of genius or something. It's their fricking alphabet, they learn it as children just like every other country that uses phonetic symbols. Is everyone in China an artist? I can guarantee you no.

I can understand having a passion for the country and the culture, but having weeaboo blindfolds like that isn't going to help you.

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Kids these days still use the term "Weeaboo"? Such an idiotic term. What do you call someone who has a passion for America and it's mixed culture? Patriotic?

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Kids these days still use the term "Weeaboo"? Such an idiotic term. What do you call someone who has a passion for America and it's mixed culture? Patriotic?

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I'd say the first thing that popped into my head... but the moderators would remove it :p

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Kids these days still use the term "Weeaboo"? Such an idiotic term. What do you call someone who has a passion for America and it's mixed culture? Patriotic?

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Reverse weeaboo.

http://i.imgur.com/hg9dX.jpg

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

That's good to hear, because even though inconsistency in item art can make the world feel disconnected it's not as important as lore and setting consistency. IMO anyways.

I feel sorry for Sato though. Having to make up lore that didn't originally belong in the game must be a hard task.

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Sato is the original Scenario writer, so I'm sure he's writing lore from the bottom of his heart! He never got replaced.

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

Reverse weeaboo.

http://i.imgur.com/hg9dX.jpg

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What's funny is that comic points out exactly what's wrong with weeaboos in the first place.

And regardless, Fairly Odd Parents was an awesome show!

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Originally Posted by Colino

What's funny is that comic points out exactly what's wrong with weeaboos in the first place.

And regardless, Fairly Odd Parents was an awesome show!

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So that's what a weeaboo is... never heard anyone say it before. But I'll pretend that what you said to me wasn't an insult since i was only really mentioning anime and never really mentioned that i also like the food, music, culture, and how they're more open-minded to sexuality than most english speaking countries, and I think it's a beautifull looking country too, they have some amazing landscapes, and I'd love to see a traditional cherry blossom festival, and all the notes left up during Tanabata. :)

On topic about gathering: Our stats are being automated in 1.19 so does that mean if they affect drop-rate when gathering the stats are all going to be equal numerically so that our gathering gear can have a greater effect? If Vit is lower than Str when the stats automate then a gatherer would have to stack the additional +Vit on their gear to get the bonus where as they wouldn't need so much in Str.

k no more posting about weeaboos on this thread please...

I'm sure Ling from Kung Pao was the first one that said Weeaboos.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92mFlANJ3Ew

now waiting for more JP rep posts and the 1.19 patch notes... weird it says 9/30 for both JP and NA side... early morning PST 9/30 :(

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

k no more posting about weeaboos on this thread please...

I'm sure Ling from Kung Pao was the first one that said Weeaboos.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92mFlANJ3Ew

now waiting for more JP rep posts and the 1.19 patch notes... weird it says 9/30 for both JP and NA side... early morning PST 9/30 :(

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sorry 'bout that. I'm done talking about off-topic now.

How many reps does the JP forum have? And do they tell jokes like ours do? Just kinda wondering.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

You really need to move to Japan someday. You need a firm ass-spanking by Reality himself.

They aren't special.

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until you realize that their citizens are generally smarter and much more respectable, not to mention show a sense of honor that far surpasses anything i've ever seen displayed in the average american.. :p