Here's mine from today. Working on my atma book and I need to run WP. I think "OK, I've run this plenty of time, I'm sure most people are experienced with this". Get in and see a decked WAR with his helm glamoured as a santa hat. "OK, a good tank but easy going, right?" Look at the DPS, 2 NINs, both with a lot less health than me. The new player message pops up. I think "OK, as long as we don't try to rush this, things will work out".
And then the WAR proceeds to pull from the start to about 2/3s of the way to the 1st boss. "He does realize the 2 NINs aren't overgeared for here and I'm a SCH, I can't Holy spam, right?" We clear the 1st group although a bit slow. "He should see the group is not set up for an SR". He proceeds to pull to the boss door, avoiding the chest and I think "OK, it won't be a smooth run but it will be manageable. Wait, where are the NINs..." and look on the minimap to see they went for the chest. So here we are, me and the WAR at the boss door with a group, and the NINs coming to join us with a bunch of beetles in tow.
We get through that mess and the boss, the WAR must now see we don't have the damage numbers for big pulls, right? He opens the door and proceeds to pull everything to the 2 rusted switches. "OK, he must really want me to work for this". Clear the trash, oil the switches, and we're through the door. We proceed up the stairs, past the switch, to the railing, he tomahawks the enemies at the lower level and even grabs the enemies on the right hallway of the upper section that everyone skips. "Did I insult him in a past life or something?" We're chipping away at the enemies, but not fast enough, and the big tonberry catches up to us. He does try to move the mobs and we wipe. "He must now see we have to take it a bit slower, right?" We regroup and he pulls to the same spot, but this time not grabbing the mobs on the right. "Well I guess that IS slower".
We eventually make it though to the final boss and I think "OK, with how well the WAR and I are geared, we really don't need to worry about the adds." The battle starts, I get my DOTs on the king, the adds start to pop and "Wait, where are the NINs..." Both NINs are split up, taking out the adds. Great, they don't know about Everyone's Grudge. The WAR finally tells them to focus on the boss. At this point, 1 of them had aggroed a slasher. He's dead, the other NIN is down as well, and due to my healing aggro, I get torn up by Scourge of Nym.
I revive and rush back to prep for Round 2, but the WAR is able to survive with a tank LB and finishes off the king. I thankfully get credit even though I'm outside of the boss room. I come in and rez 1 of the NINs (they both stayed on the ground and watched the fight), while the other revived back at the start. The WAR then complains about carrying the group before taking off.
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12-09-2014, 03:52 PMSeniade
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12-09-2014, 11:18 PMdeos
story from yesterday:
was bored and queued for a few higher leveling instances on my WHM, ending up in cutter's cry. got synched down to 40 as usual and as i was porting in (slow computer -.-) they already start talking in german. well as we all were german it was no big deal but i quickly understood that those 3 are friends which are quite new to the game and the instance with only one knowing the tactics. oh well no problem...
doing the first room i quickly notice the tank took big hits and cant hold aggro when i heal him, so i ended up with quite a bunch of mobs on every pull. good thing im full synched and can sleep some mobs if needed, we make it through the first room. but it bothered me and i took a look at the tank... and saw lvl 20-32 white equip in every slot... great...
but since we take forever for each mob i also look at the gear of both DPS... they also had lvl 20-32 eqip in every slot, though at least some of them were not white
so im in an instance with a paper tank and some feather throwing DPS, great... others may have left at that point but since it was a boredom run anyway i just continued and told them to get some better gear soon
but the biggest problem was that everyone was standing in the sand puddles and did not move out of them. had some death before even reaching the first boss (they even had to pull almost all mobs, even the ones you can skip) but we kind of made it there
first boss was... ok i guess... we cleared him first try but the adds ate me a few seconds before the boss fell since they were so slow killing him (why using LB? -.-)
onwards we went, and from there it got really ugly. after the first boss there are more adds and more sand puddles, on which we wiped quite a few times before eventually reaching the 2nd boss. nobody ever tried to get out of the puddles, and the bombing onehit adds did not do good either to players that did not want to move much.
well, we eventually could also clear the 2nd boss without much problems since i told them where to go, but it took forever again and i was all OOM at the end from all the healing and rezzing (even had to use mp pots)
we were almost out of time so from that point i charged ahead. pulled using sleep on adds to decrease group size to get it down safer and quicker. this worked quite well and we could make our way (ignoring side routes) to the endboss without much problems this time, though it was still very slow
i explained every tactic of the fight in chat and told them when to go close and when to stay away and so on. ok we went in, the boss does the first few aoe skills... and we already had a dead. great. time for rezzing. oh wait why is the tank standing in the... and another dead... a few moments later im alone, kiting the boss while activating quickcast to rezz the tank... which just rezzed himself at the entrance... as well as the DDs... and then they cry that they cant get back in... serious?
the boss at ~60% and solo kiting i try a bit kiting, then let myself get killed since it would have taken too long solo
another try, i explained everything again, pointing out the failures they made. at this point we were down to ~15 min rest time. here we go... and oh well, this time it worked out. they still got hit by quite a bit, i had to tell them when using LB and so on, and i have to do a few rezzes but we eventually cleared it before the time runs out
they thank me and give me all 3 recommendations before leaving, well ok they were all nice and could learn at least.
and the run did what i wanted - it drove the boredome far far away XD -
12-10-2014, 03:51 PMgiantslayer
Fresh from today: Snowcloak.
Party consists of me as a scholar, a warrior, a ninja, and a lancer.
Warrior decides to do the biggest pull I have ever seen for that dungeon: he pulls everything up from the first enemy to the wolves (including at least the first half of the wolves). He has a mob of at least a good dozen or so enemies on him.
By the time I realize he has stopped trying to pull more stuff, his health was already 2/3rds gone and falling fast. I then engage in the most frantic healing struggle of my life, utilizing every cooldown and resource I have. I manage to keep him up for roughly one whole minute. By the end, I had exhausted 6 stacks of lustrate, eye for an eye, fey illumination, rouse, and whispering dawn, while spamming only adlo on him (no physicks). With everything except my mp exhausted, Adlo+embrace spam wasn't enough to keep him up with the amount of enemies still alive (which was most of them—remember, no black mage).
Tank then blames me for the wipe.
To his credit, about 10-20 seconds later, he admitted to forgetting to factor in what kind of DPS we had (without apologizing, though) and the rest of the run went ok. -
12-10-2014, 07:03 PMDarkmoonVael
So now i am starting the various quests for Nirvana, i am running a lot of dungeons, and well, its been "fun". So a common thing seems to be tanks (tanks with nexus weapons), going on what i can only describe as a little sight seeing tour half way through a pull. Hesistating, standing still for a little while, then moving, all the while, they have managed to loose about 80% of their health.......during a pull O.o.
Another common thing is tanks that "loloutgear" content, so believe they dont have to use cooldowns. Strangely enough, these are also tanks who dont manage to hold aggro from anyone. Had a lovely hullbreaker run with a pld, i112 ish (sold+poetic only), decided to try and pull masses of mobs, couldn't get the ranged positioned with the group, wouldnt use cooldowns. I was running with my raids bard, who played foes for me since well, whm+dungeon=holy. Tank actually complained about bard playing songs for people! We asked why a tank who doesnt hold aggro or use cooldowns should be complaining about others, his response "lol, cooldowns, you being serious?"
I play tank as well. I realise that tanks jobs are to pull, hold aggro, position mobs correctly, and mitigate as much damage they receive as possible. Its staggering that many many tanks seem to not understand this. -
12-10-2014, 08:31 PMEmeraldAresI have also seen a number of runs where tanks "sightsee" pull while working on Zodiac. Another special thing that I love is when there's one mob left from a huge pull and the tank drags it away with them so I can't use shroud for maximum mana. This is usually followed by another huge pull, where I can't help with aoe as well as the first time and have to focus on healing completely to prevent a wipe.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael
The good news is that with the removal of ilvl sync, most of these dungeons have become easier for healers to manage. I still haven't had anyone try to blame me on the rare wipe yet, but you can tell that people are annoyed with having to run these dungeons over and over again for their relics. I would be annoyed too if I didn't clear the AV drop in two runs. At least the other dungeons drop tomes and don't slash my power in half. -
12-10-2014, 10:19 PMDarkmoonVaelSadly AV is my bane for these dungeon drops, all other dungeons have taken 1-2 runs for it to drop, av is at 5+ runs :(.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmeraldAres
Started tanking AV, and just left a run after the healer started swearing a little bit at first boss. This was after he managed to pull an absurd amount of unnecessary mobs in the first room, wiped us once already after he decided to run away from me when he pulled mobs. Decided to attack ranged mobs when i was trying to pull them and move them through breaking line-of-sight with them, and generally played whm so badly it made me sad to main whm :(.
Also, on the tank running away with final mob, thats so annoying. Speedrunning needs really efficient mana management on whm, as well as cooperative use of cooldown from the tank. No decent cooldown used on mass pulls, the whm is not going to be able to assist much in dealing damage and making that run so much faster O.o. -
12-11-2014, 03:43 AMSummonerSenah
Lately I feel a need to make a macro for my scholar that says "Out of lustrates; please use appropriate cooldowns or do smaller pulls." My scholar is i107 so I'm not over geared, but I'm not that shabby either. But especially in the new dungeons, the mobs hit hard and when tanks do big pulls it's easy to run out of Lustrates and be stuck waiting for Aetherflow to come off cool down.
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12-11-2014, 04:35 AMSummerRiderI wonder if I had the exact same tank, as I had almost the same story. No communication on what he was going to do, and so we are suddenly running, and I'm going "when are you going to actually stop?".Quote:
Originally Posted by giantslayer
I guess at this point I should be glad he didn't actually stop in the "slipstream" area. -
12-12-2014, 02:27 AMJamillion
Had a Marauder tank that seemed a bit squishy and generally didn't know what to do in Haukke manor, I checked his gear and he was wearing all caster and dps accessories along with caster pants... It was like healing another blm, in fact, I would have rather had a third DPS -_-
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12-12-2014, 03:01 AMCrystalMagus
Well I soloed the second boss in Aurum Vale. ._. was fun, but the DPS didnt know how to dodge stuff, and the tank apparently didnt either. So i soloed the boss and just said ef it on ressing them and dealing with their weakness. the boss at the time was around like 75%-ish or so.
Next would be solo healing Garuda EX. ;__; cause the healer DCed ;-; so it was super stressful as a SCH ;-; -
12-12-2014, 05:28 AMVanilleFang
So I'm getting a little confused as of late. It seems that a lot of people are new to the game, or at least to dungeons. The reason I'm saying this is because I've has a few odd balls on my parties recently, some making healing quite hard...
So the first story I have is about a tank in Tam Tara NM who didn't seem to know how to hold Enmity. I know, low level, only the second dungeon, still learning... But what was frustrating is that I was getting sooo bored! Literally all I could do was wait for his health to drop to 50% and heal him. Even by just playing like this, and not even DPSing, I was still pulling hate after 2-3 Cures. It was boring and tedious. Not very fun...
Next story is in Sastasha NM. The tank would literally "pull" mobs by running at them and running back to the group. And then he would proceed to attack one enemy and after even a single cure I would get all the hate, or someone else would attack a different target and they would get hate... It was strange because I've never seen someone tank like this. I even asked him to use Flash and Shield Lob. He did once, only after I had Tanked everything up to the last room before the final boss. I decided after a while into the dungeon that on each pull, instead of letting enemies run rampant, that I would use a few Medicas and tank the mobs. Sucked.
Next story is not really a horror story but... it's odd. It's about a Conjurer in Tam Tara NM who was in CS the entire time. I don't normally have issue with this if they are healing fine and DPsing but... All they were doing was standing around and waiting to heal. And they spammed the crap out of Cure. Like... 5 Cures on a tank at 50%. They pulled hate and I even informed them that they should get out of CS if they are just going to be healing. No answer, nothing. It was weird.
Another time was with a THM in Halatali. They never said a word and just sat around, occasionally casted Physick(why?) and Thunder. On the Boss, when it was alone mind you, she would cast Fire II. I asked her to do damage but she never said a thing. Worst THM I've ever seen.
And another odd ball was a Rogue who would constantly remove and reapply Kiss of the Wasp during combat. It was weird... Is there something about KotW I don't know? I thought it increased damage and changed one move to a stun instead of a silence. Why do you need a silence against trash in Thousand Maw? It was like... every 25 seconds it would go off and then back on. It was so strange. -
12-12-2014, 10:59 AMSasealSome of those sound like (badly coded) bottish behavior o_OQuote:
Originally Posted by VanilleFang
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12-12-2014, 11:16 AMVanilleFangThat's what I was thinking. Which, in my opinion, would be even worse. At least if it wasn't bots then that would mean people would actually be playing. If it was botting...? Yeah, I've never been a fan of bots in the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saseal
I really hope it was just bad players.
At least not all my runs were bad. I did Darkhold after my first story and it was the most fun I had in a long time. I just wish people would have fun with a game, and not try to cheat it.
EDIT: Oh, and that THM? I just remembered. She did speak once. So she wasn't a bot.
She replied to something I said at the end of the dungeon. We got a new tank, because the first one DCed, and I told them "She doesn't do any damage" and the THM said "really ??" -
12-13-2014, 09:10 AMQQping
I don't know if it really fits in here with an asshole WHM and a hyperactive bard but anyway, just CT2 things...
Both were pretty overequipped for CT2 with 120+ gear and a few 110 items.
In every room on every new encounter, the bard rushed in and AoE'd everything... sweet... ok, selene, let him die!
He died several times but did the same shit over and over again -.-
As if this was not enough, 2 parts of the 100 equipment for healer and the WHM needed on both... and got them both -.-
"You should be thankful that she heals, lowbob" was one of many replies asking why the WHM did that.
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12-13-2014, 09:25 AMVanilleFangSounds like elitist douchebags. I feel for you. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by QQping
I hate when people think you are worthless or unskilled just because they die or are not a high ilvl. It's unfair and we don't need that crap. We put up with enough crap as is. -
12-13-2014, 09:33 AMQQpingJust checked the screenshots. All of those who talked bad towards me were from 2 FCs from the same server so definitely premade. I am happy that they are not playing on the same server as I do :3Quote:
Originally Posted by VanilleFang
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12-13-2014, 09:42 AMVanilleFangThat doesn't really surprise me. Premades never said anything bad about each other. It's everyone else in the party that's bad. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by QQping
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12-13-2014, 08:24 PMVorpal_Spork
Can I post stuff that isn't from this game? In WoW I had a lv54 warrior who didn't have defense stance and insisted his trainer didn't have the quest yet when I tried to tell him you get it at lv10. He called me a "n00b" and rage quit.
It's a low level dungeon. You're fully capable of tanking it yourself. I have on several occasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by VanilleFang
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12-13-2014, 08:30 PMVorpal_SporkI wasn't saying you let him die. I was saying you're complaining about healers only DPSing while you're a DPS who only healed. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Arkenne
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12-13-2014, 11:57 PMVanilleFangI realize I'm fully capable. I've done it (see my Sastasha story). If I had decided to fully tank it wouldn't have really changed much of anything expect that I would be healing myself, but more frequently. Though I might have been able to get some DPS out... It might have made it more interesting, but I wasn't really in the mood to take the tank's job away from them. And what you're saying doesn't really change the fact that even when I did hardly anything I would still pull the hate off the tank. It was just frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vorpal_Spork
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12-14-2014, 03:13 AMEA9Sol
This is not mine own healing horror story, but my hubby's. it's is not to bad, but still.
I need to do complete some dungeons for my relic book and one of them was Tam-Tera. Not hard at all. So, I asked my hubby and he was okay with it. He goes as Scholar and I as my monk. In the dun we get a lvl 16 archer and a lvl 30 tank. I'm still thinking this will be cake. So, after my hubby stone skins we are ready to go.....but, the tank doesn't move. I'm asking me hubby what wrong. He doesn't no either. The tank seems to be afk for a while and I'm starting to get a bad feeling in my gut This goes on for a few minutes, until the archer decides to pull. I end up tanking. >.> Then the tank starts to kinda tank but, mostly stands around watching me tank the mobs. After a few minuets he says One minute and then: okay go.
My hubby was asking me to kick him, but i didn't want to. >.< ended up doing it anyway. Plus it seems the tank was just learning. But at lvl 30? And know this person was not new to the game. Had a level 50 black mage all ready. T_T sigh Why can't I jut get good groups. I don't the best, just good enough to get by. -
12-14-2014, 09:39 AMCeodore
I prefer to tank, but every once in a while, I'll heal or dps. Frankly, I play all the classes because if there's one thing I've learned from trying to teach other people the mechanics of a class, it's that you never want to hear the words "You don't play this, so you don't know", so yeah, I play everything. I don't know if I have a SINGLE horror story, but just a list of things that I, as a tank, when healing, I cringe and cry when I see it happen. Here are a few.
1. The tank throws on a defensive debuff before pulling. I hate this. I’ve already thrown out stoneskin or Adloquium, why do they need to waste 3-5 seconds of Rampart or Foresight for?
2. Flash, or lack there of. This one is just common though, so common, I’ve started doing what many healers do, no heal until a little bit of aoe agro gets established. MANY a tank hath fallen to the mercy of my wrath. What’s great is in most of these cases, the dps pick up at least two mobs, and I can easily heal through the rest.
3. The tank doesn’t move out of orange cones and circles. An occasional one, that’s fine. But if you’re going to yank together two groups of enemies and stand in the fire while I’m level synced, you’re about to learn all about how I think you’re an idiot. I expect to see movement, or your butt is hitting the pavement.
4. Melee DPS who do the same thing as above. Again, an occasional accident, I’ll forgive, but if EVERY Aqueous Discharge hits you, then I’m probably gonna finish off your last sliver of HP.
5. Range DPS that stand in melee and also do the same thing as above. You are a ranged attacker. There is no reason you should be able to AA the mobs with your staff… back up! If the melee dps are squishy, then your cloth covered rear is gonna be a great big pin cushion.
Generally speaking though, I prepare for these problems. In higher content, I run WHM, where 9 times out of 10, the people I am playing with are a bit more competent. Lower stuff, I go SCH, because if nothing else, I know my fairy can at least take a hit, and hey, 2 healers for the price of one. -
12-14-2014, 11:24 AMTristamwolf
I don't have any one particular story, but oftentimes tanks seem to be in a huge rush to get through a dungeon, even if you let them know that you're on your first time run. I don't know how many times I've had a party wipe because the tank pulls as I'm typing things like "I'm low on mana, just a sec" or "let me make sure I know what's up with this boss before we roll in." which is always followed by a mechanics heavy boss fight that I could really use a chance to verify what's going on before we start.
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12-14-2014, 01:13 PMRimfrostI enjoyed reading this post. =DQuote:
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12-15-2014, 03:30 AMUrtear
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kk, that post gave me the laugh I've been needing for the week! XD Like, tear wiping laugh! -
12-15-2014, 03:15 PMAriaEnia
When I was in Sastasha (Hard) and with the tank, who is a "powerlevel guy, who has deadline".
It was a horror. All of the party member, except him of course, the tank (the powerlevel guy) gave me commendations and thumbed me up when it ended.
Also, in Temple of Qarn (Hard) a warrior tank, who had a really big ego, was trying to tank like a paladin does. It was a Horror too. -
12-15-2014, 04:18 PMwarren-ragnarok
my story isnt really a healer one, since i was on tank (but i do heal and know what it feels like to be in those moments)
leviathan ex, about 20% left on levi, and big add spawns, tank tries to keep the add stunlocked, and a mnk in the group insisted on spamming their stun moves causing it to resist stun. the larger mob has enough time to cast hysteria
just so happens, all dps walk off the edge along with 1 healer, leaving just a the two tanks and one healer to try to finish levi ex (i was one of those tanks)
sadly, i couldnt stop from laughing because i called it almost as soon as the mob spawned over mic to two people i was in group with -
12-16-2014, 12:56 AMVanilleFangI've been noticing this a lot recently. Mages (and even Bards) that will get into melee range for no reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceodore
I'm fine if they feel that the AA increases their DPS enough to warrant it AND they dodge AoEs (except Bards, Bards need to stop it). But if they are a mage who just walks up there for no reason and can't dodge AoEs because "I was casting" they need to stay out of Melee range, because I'm not going to be healing them if its a big Pull.
In general I've been noticing a lack of awareness in most people I DF with. I'll rarely get a fully competent group. Usually there is one person who can't avoid AoEs and/or messes up Enmity. -
12-16-2014, 03:03 AMArkenneHrm, yea kinda thought thats what you meant after I posted that... yep, I did the same OTLQuote:
Originally Posted by Vorpal_Spork
Yet I can complain, right...? Right?? -
12-16-2014, 05:10 AMVanilleFang
Short one (Lucas/SCH Player):
Went to do Pharos Sirius for the first time, I've read up on it and knew what to expect. I know it can be difficult for first timers, especially healers. But I just got my Soldiery Robe and I thought my ilvl 73 would be enough.
Well, I get in and tell everyone its my first time. Nothing.
Then the tank runs off without Protect/SS/Adlo and pulls a HUGE group. I try my best: Using E4E, Lustrate, Healing as fast as I can, Rouse+Fey+Whispering Dawn. The Tank falls quickly, and the Melee DPS falls at the exact same time. Neither of them dodging out of AoEs. Check Tank gear and he's trying to Spiritbond DoW equipment.
So I said "screw this" and left. I'll try it later, but I'm not dealing with that. -
12-16-2014, 06:51 AMSaseal*Slow clap towards the tank* Smart. Real smart.Quote:
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I had something similar a while back - one of the tanks was in coils spirit bonding low level stuff o_O
Edit: Mind you, I believe he mentioned it was DoH gear.... -
12-16-2014, 11:25 PMMilesSaintboroguh
Lately I keep running into tanks that not only do massive pulls, but are so tunnel minded that they are ignoring the one or two mobs attacking me and they're attacking me cause for each group the tank pulls, his HP gets lower and lower and I have to heal him so he don't wipe, regardless of the aggro I would have yanked.
I get we all want to rush the zodaic quests, but doing it sloppy is going to make the run take longer. -
12-16-2014, 11:55 PMRed_Wolf
Overall I've been fairly impressed with the lack of ego in this game by high end raiders in PUGs. It's nice to have some of the tanks walk me through the fights when I'm there for the first time. Obviously I'm new in my level 70 gear, no materia and no cross class abilities.
However, there was a jackass a few nights ago that dropped group because he had to use his own.... Cooldown. That's it. So thank you for proving elitist jerks are still alive and well. Replacement tank came in with less gear and we finished the dungeon quickly without a single wipe. -
12-17-2014, 12:09 AMDeheuty
I was on my WHM farming for my final relic and was in Pharos Sirius.
At the first boss, the monk kept tunneling the boss and leaving the wolves running around attacking the other undergeared summoner and me to get the crystal stacks. We wiped and even after told to kill the adds, the monk repeated this until the summoner and I stacked at the tank and used the caster LB and even then we barely made it. Monk suggests to summoner not to use the caster lb!
What I did was revenge - I single target healing the whole group while exclusively NOT healing the monk. The monk died and was rez'd by the summoner a few times during trash clearing. He was rez'd and with low HP, died immediately after and was rez'd. Died, rez'd, died, rez'd... well, you get the idea.
The monk and tank voted to kick me out but I would do the same thing again if it repeated itself. At present, that is the only time I was voted out of a group.
After that, I got into Pharos Sirius within 5mins of queuing time and cleared it with that group in about 20-30mins. And yes, they killed the wolves before they got to me.
Moral of the story - never EVER piss off your healer. We can always find another (more effective) group to join. ^.^ -
12-17-2014, 12:42 AMItaruKarin
Trying to lvl my scholar to lvl 50 yesterday, in Aurum Vale (Huzzah...). 2 new people, why not, I ask the tank (A 48 paladin I believe, on his first job), to take it slow. He goes and... Stand in the middle of the first room.
I feel a cold shiver running down my spine as the toads turn toward us, and the jellyfish start flying to us as some kind of gelatinous wolves... But the BLM (A new guy too !) put them all to sleep, and we slowly but surely kill them one after the other. Pfou.
First boss, and already i feel that something is wrong. I explained the fight beforehand, but for some reason, the entire team eats way too many damage. It takes me a while to finally realize that none of them are actually trying to dodge the boss AoEs, hence, monster damage. we miraculously manage to survive, and carry on.
By then, what seemed like a skill in the first room quickly appear to be some kind of misunderstanding, as the black mages (We had two of them) keep sleeping the mobs. All the mobs. Every time. Even in pull of 2 where I can basically let Eos heal on her own. Progress is slow and none of my politely phrased suggestions change anything. Whatever.
We reach the second boss, and my stomach ties into a knot, despite a part of me remaining hopeful. "Maybe they are not so bad, just a bit slow on the draw". I explain everything, and on we go.
They all put up a valliant effort, especially the tank, trying so hard to react fast and get out of range that he often kept going for several second after evading 100K Swipe. But as the fight drag on, I can see his will trembling like a candle in the wind. It finally breaks entirely when the Cyclop use 100K Swing for the first time, killing him on the spot. As soon as I rez him, he casts Sword Oath and desperatly try to hold aggro from the mages, until finally panic send him spiralling into the two black mages, allowing the Cyclop to take down all three of them with a single swipe. I weeped.
From this point, I become increasingly tense, although always remaining courteous and friendly on the outside, but something seems to have broken, deep down into my teammates souls. It becomes very clear when we reach the first goldvine, and everyone gets hit by the bad breath. I'm worried.
We finally get to the last boss, after more than 60 minutes. I'll not let them down. I want them to succeed. So we pull, and all hell breaks loose.
The paladin suddenly seems rooted to the very ground as he starts eating the bad breath. All of them. One after the other. When the eggs spawn, the black mages half tried to dps them down, only to have 5 of them hatch. 2 black mages. 5 eggs hatching. Madness.
We wipe. Then again. And again. At this point, I'm past hoping to carry them through this, for my Scholar arts didn't yet have time to fully mature. They don't answer my pleas for help our my advices, out of shame or of some ill placed remains of pride. The dungeon ends in failure, disappointment, and anger.
I'm heartbroken. -
12-17-2014, 01:29 AMSaseal
So, it wasn't me healing this time, so it's technically not my horror story. I kindasortamaybejustaweebit contributed to what must have been the healer's horror story :x;;;;; NOT ON PURPOSE D: *shieldsface*
Being WHM main, I feel for you, WHMfromthatparty T^T Don't worry, it was a horror story for me, too, just knowing what it must have been like and knowing that I was contributing to it.
So I was in Titan HM on my bard and things are going well. We had a few new peeps, I think, that were still getting the hang of the crazy mechanics. Usually by heart phase (or after) there would be casualties. I was doing pretty good dodging and not getting hit too terribly :D Singing the songs of mah peoples (mages balled when needed) and such - but then..... for some reason, it's like something in my head just switched off... and I was hit by anything and everything. And died repeatedly. Often within seconds of being raised. x_x I'd live long enough to start and finish singing mages balled - pop battle voice to give them an emergency jumpstart on MP regen after raising my ass, and then...... BOOM. Down I go. Again. Multiple times. I am soooo sorry. |||OTL
First run through I dodged everything - bombs had dropped earlier than I remember ever seeing them (before heart phase o_O) and dodged them (and WoTLs) all. We wiped when we didn't destroy the heart by like a tiny sliver. In fact, it wasn't even a sliver. it was beaten within a pixel of it's life when it did it's shpeel and wiped us.
Second go, I was doing fine. Got through heart phase and such a round or two of bombs and then.... the derping begins. I don't know what it was. Hit by ALL the bombs (didn't get out of range fast enough) and hit by ALL the WoTLs and totally effed up one bomb set by running to the wrong corner too early. Die from ALL the things! I guess my concentration snapped? x.x fatigued? I have no idea!
The two tanks and one WHM that survived the whole thing were badass, killing it up. Unfortunately, Titan still had a large chunk of life (about 1/3 HP left) and the amount of stomps he started racking up over time just outright killed all three. There was no way any heals would keep up with 6+ stomps with just one healer.
Round three? - /Grovel'ed for forgiveness to the WHM and we began again. I still derped here and there a little in the beginning, but not as heavily, thank gad.
I got my rhythm and concentration back some time after the heart phase, somehow, and didn't die from there.
/groveltothehealersforbeingahorrorstory
Has anyone else had this happen? Where they're doing super awesome and then..... it's like something hit you with the 'stupid' hammer and you do super crappily o_Oa I'm starting to think my brain activated a buff skill.... it was then on a CD for a while >_> -
12-17-2014, 03:51 AMEmeraldAres
This happened last Thursday or Friday, while I was still working on the last few items for my Zodiac weapon (I came down with a serious cold last week, so I ended up staying home and playing more than usual on the weekdays. I swear I didn't plan this).
It isn't an outright healing horror story because nothing went seriously wrong from a gameplay perspective, but I'm going to count it anyway. I joined Snowcloak with a Paladin, Ninja, and Black Mage. Right away, it becomes obvious that the Black Mage doesn't understand his rotation. He's doing things like spamming Fire III and only using Blizzard I to build Umbral Ice stacks. It isn't really enough to impede us from completing, so I don't say anything. That's how I usually roll in DF: if people aren't playing perfectly, I generally don't make an issue of it. I leveled every job just so that I could know when people aren't performing as well (like Dragoons who don't heavy thrust), but I rarely make actual use of this information unless someone ticks me off. About the only thing I'll usually do is point out missing tank presences or ninja poisons, but sometimes I won't even do that if I just don't care.
This run was really one of those times where I should have cared, but I let it go for some reason. The Paladin had his oath, but he wasn't using his cooldowns on the first mass pulls and was making it more difficult for me to heal him. Fine, whatever, I can usually deal with that. The ninja also forgot to put up a poison. Again, I just didn't care and was ready to let that go since the run seemed to be going okay without this stuff. But there was one minor problem: the Paladin and Ninja queued together, and they were determined to either make the Black Mage "get gud" or boot him out of the run. They spent the entire first section making fun of him for not doing his aoe or his rotation correctly, until they finally proposed a kick on him during the trash packs approaching the yeti. My "no" vote against their two "yes" votes failed, and the Black Mage was gone.
That's not to say that I was defending the Black Mage on a mechanical level. Oh no, he was playing his class quite poorly for a dungeon like Snowcloak (or anything over level 40, for that matter). But I don't think that is a good use of the Vote Dismiss feature. It's meant to be used to get rid of people who AFK or go offline for an extended period of time, or for dispelling people who are actually harassing the party. It's not supposed to be a personal tool for getting rid of anyone who doesn't deal perfect damage. I realize there are some players who do think that it should be for removing unskilled players, and that SE has avoided taking a position on this issue and has allowed kicks of this nature, but I still don't like it. People should form a full premade party if they don't want to get players who may not live up to their standards in skill. You take what you get in DF unless the person is being completely unreasonable, at least that's my philosophy.
Anyway, I wasn't being the best of people throughout all of this. I couldn't come to the Black Mage's defense verbally because I didn't approve of his sloppy play either, but at the same time I couldn't justify agreeing to a kick of a mediocre player by two other players who weren't even performing their basic functions properly (tank cooldowns and ninja poison). I continued onward with them a little more, but by the end of the yeti boss I couldn't handle the hypocrisy anymore. I told them that I couldn't support the unjustified use of Vote Dismiss after all, and ate the 30 min penalty rather than finish and go to Fenrir. I didn't want to reward them, however slightly, for abusing a feature that was meant for players who were legitimately disrupting the party with grief or extended absence.
I like to think that my stand was rewarded, because the next Snowcloak I did after the cooldown wore off was composed of pleasant individuals and ended with the acquisition of my Zodiac item. I guess it just goes to show that sometimes it is better to leave a group I don't like and try again later with a better one, however rare the circumstance may be. -
12-17-2014, 04:46 AMArkenneThat is actually a normal sympthom of the DPS...Quote:
Originally Posted by Saseal
Your main focus is normally to just poke the boss, it wont face your way no matter how many hairs you pull from its back and you dont have to constantly be on your toes to keep its sandbag alive.
Hence, something switches off, sight goes blurry, you deviate your focus from the screen and start to pay less and less attention to the battle... ending up with this kind of results.
Sudenly losing tempo, cant catch mechanics, eats all AoEs and becomes an overall wasted weight... don't desperate tho, its normal... but do try better next time XD
PS: it gets worse on melee :v -
12-17-2014, 05:02 AMSasealNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo.................. ;O;Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkenne
You gotta gimme a cure or antidote, or something! ;-; Is it permanent? Will it go away by itself? Does it leave marks?? Is it contagious?? How will I live (or not live)!?
xD
roflmao, btw xD -
12-17-2014, 05:08 AMBikpik
I'm not normally one to complain, but I just had a one hell of a DD run.
So I'm healing on Sch to do some relic farming, rest of the party aren't level synced, so i figure it'll be a slow run, which I'm ok with. Starts off fine until the tank and brd both run between the blue lights, under the All-Seeing Eye, so I wait a second to not get hit with his aoe, but they take a couple of hits and are too far ahead for me to reach with my heals and the brd ends up dieing, and gives me the old ???? as to insinuate that it was my fault, even though he kept on running ahead and I couldn't reach him, I try explaining to him that I couldn't reach him but he's not having any of it, and keep blaming me, anyways I drop it.
The boss fight, they are super slow moving between lights and they all eat every aoe and while I'm healing the tank the brd and drg both die, I rez everyone and we recover but again they blame me for the deaths, I tell them that I can't keep up with heals if they don't stay in the lights, but again aren't having any of it and they try to tell me to use Eos instead of Selene, but I tell them it's not the fairies fault, that they are taking too much avoidable damage.
So onto the second room, kill the first 2 mobs ok, but the tank and brd still are complaining that i'm using selene, go to kill the 2nd group and the tank gets aggro from the wandering frogs and everything gets pulled, and I got sucked into an aoe and got knocked off and we wipe. I try to explain that they need to pull the mobs back further, so we don't aggro the whole room, but again they blame me, anyways. Go to kill again, tank pulls, aggros the whole room again because she didn't move back, drg gets hit with every aoe and dies, but I manage to keep the rest of us up even though the mobs are all attacking everyone, and still they blame me for the drg death so I tell them that if they aren't satisfied with my healing that they are welcome to kick me, but they kick the Drg by accident first, then I get the boot. Which in hindsight I am thankful for.