Press and player reactions to the new XIV

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Originally Posted by Keres

Thing is, the party member cast bars are all in exactly the same places in both pictures. That's a little odd, I never noticed it before.

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Hence why I said only things in action. If you're going to demonstrate something for a screen shot, you don't have to take a picture of it in live action. The coeurl and dragoon could have been the only ones moving. Hell, the dragoon and coeurl could have easily been forced into those poses.

Think of it like how the interviewers pointed out that the clouds in the sky weren't moving.

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Originally Posted by bahley

It was pretty obvious

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/files/2..._Dragoon-2.png
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/files/2..._Dragoon-1.png

notice any similarities?

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It is Photoshopped, every single bar and bar status is exactly the same, EVERYTHING IS THE SAME!!!

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

The UIs are exactly the same. Cast bars, ally spells, ally HP/MP, the character's TP, etc.

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Oh... Well, if you notice the mini-map... It is virtually the same too, except in the first screen the view cone is aimed north, in the second aimed south, but none of the markers has moved either.
The Coeurl's HP bar in the first picture has a sign that the monster is currently in the instant it takes damage, notice how the pre-damage value of the bar lines up with the value of the bar in the second image. Also notice how it says Dragonfire Dive on both for Kain (i'm sure you already noticed that).
That is quite literally the same fight, less than perhaps a single second between each snapshot, he's executing Dragonfire Dive on both shots.

It... Actually does looks legit for me.

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Originally Posted by Dawiichan

Hence why I said only things in action. If you're going to demonstrate something for a screen shot, you don't have to take a picture of it in live action. The coeurl and dragoon could have been the only ones moving. Hell, the dragoon and coeurl could have easily been forced into those poses.

Think of it like how the interviewers pointed out that the clouds in the sky weren't moving.

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Cloud in sky not moving just mean that the time isn't flowing. Day and night are most likely not implemented.

On top of cast bars not being right, you also have the max MP bar that isn't right. On the party monitor, you can see 1860MP, the bar isn't full. At the bottom, 1860MP, the bar is full. On the second screenshot, 1860MP, both bars are full.

Finally, the little exclamation mark on the bottom right of the screen is most likely blinking. Except that... over time, if an icon is blinking, on two screenshots, the blinking effect should be different. In here it's not. It's like the whole UI is purely solid, not animated.

I don't see the big deal of having some photoshop/edits on screenshots anyway. As long as the UI -will- be like that when the game is available, I don't care. What matters is the game I will play, not what I see now...

people think 2.0 will be a simple patch, when its a full blown new game. FMV is just that old & tired and shows nothing. so SE next video needs to be IN GAME.

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Originally Posted by Antipika

Cloud in sky not moving just mean that the time isn't flowing. Day and night are most likely not implemented.

On top of cast bars not being right, you also have the max MP bar that isn't right. On the party monitor, you can see 1860MP, the bar isn't full. At the bottom, 1860MP, the bar is full. On the second screenshot, 1860MP, both bars are full.

Finally, the little exclamation mark on the bottom right of the screen is most likely blinking. Except that... over time, if an icon is blinking, on two screenshots, the blinking effect should be different. In here it's not. It's like the whole UI is purely solid, not animated.

I don't see the big deal of having some photoshop/edits on screenshots anyway. As long as the UI -will- be like that when the game is available, I don't care. What matters is the game I will play, not what I see now...

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The clouds were an example. Just stating that time doesn't have to be moving for it to happen. I think you just don't understand that the time doesn't have to be moving whatsoever for them to take these screenshots. You notice similarities, yet there are also differences. CDs for certain skills were different, camera position on mini map was also different. HP bar on the coeurl is affected by the damage shown on the screen. I also don't think the thing under the ! is blinking since the color is too rich for it to seem like that, most likely just an icon to state some form of quest progression.

Not really a big deal about it being photoshopped, I just don't see it. It looks more like a frozen version of the game that they moved around.

I've read a few complaint about the fact we don't see enough in game content. One word... actually, two word... : TEASER site.

Noone has considered the fact that this trailer wasn't for anyone other than the current fanbase? It shows main plot lines that only a player would know and understand, let alone get excited about. Some of you need to relax and cut SE some damn slack. If you can give Yoshi credit for making the game better, I think you should also assume he knows what should be reveled right now and for whom it's geared towards.

Most of us complained we didnt get this at E3, and here we are a few weeks later complaining at how its presented? For reals ya'll?

I hope this trailer wasn't for the current fanbase because I'm not a fucking moron who goes all dick in a box for CGI

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Originally Posted by Churchill

I hope this trailer wasn't for the current fanbase because I'm not a fucking moron who goes all dick in a box for CGI

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Your sig says otherwise. It clearly shows Natalie Portman revealing her dick in a box :p

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Originally Posted by bahley

It was pretty obvious

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/files/2..._Dragoon-2.png
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/files/2..._Dragoon-1.png

notice any similarities?

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Sure, some of the stuff in the UI is the same.. but it 'being photoshopped' and noticed as a bad thing is implying that the UI won't look anything like that at all when the game finally releases.

Raging over tiny details like that, which are probably like that for a reason, is silly. :P

Calling it Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, really makes it sound like an expansion and in some ways it is. A lot of non players of FFXIV will remember now much it sucked and think of it as an expansion to a failed mmo and will pay it no mind.

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Originally Posted by Yucie

Sure, some of the stuff in the UI is the same.. but it 'being photoshopped' and noticed as a bad thing is implying that the UI won't look anything like that at all when the game finally releases.

Raging over tiny details like that, which are probably like that for a reason, is silly. :P

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? Most everyone who does a graphic related thing will do a "prototype" of what they want it to look like in Photoshop first, which means it's just a picture they make that they want it to look like. Forum designers, UI designers, etc. :0 So saying it's a photoshop doesn't mean it won't look like that.

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Originally Posted by Fear

Can't really demo an MMORPG, but I bet we'll be seeing a benchmark soon.

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Free until level 15?
Limited Access to Markets. 50k gil cap.

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Originally Posted by Rau

Free until level 15?
Limited Access to Markets. 50k gil cap.

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EDIT: I'M DUMB AND CAN'T READ

Also should only be able to do 15 on one class and only 1 char.

SE already has a free FF11 trail they probably need to do something similar for FF14 in 2.0. For FF11, trail players can only level up to level 30, have 100k gil, can't send tells to people but can reply, can't invite people to parties but can join them. Can not trade other players, use the AH or bazzars, send or receive items with mog house delivery system.

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Originally Posted by XxOstiaxX

It is Photoshopped, every single bar and bar status is exactly the same, EVERYTHING IS THE SAME!!!

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Except it's not. Look at the cooldown timers on the skill bars. Certain cooldowns are at different durations and some cooldowns are triggered in one screen while they arwn't in the other. It's real!

We just need to spread the word once it hits. If it succeeds (I think it will, based on how improved this current version is), we just need to pass it on like wildfire!

This is what the Interwebz is for.

Yeah, in addition to the new media being released, I feel like the players (us) will also need to keep people in check who think this is the same game from 2010 and remind them this is a complete rebuilding of the game. Hell, the current game is even totally different than before, just show them a video of the new ending fight, that would get me excited by itself lol, this team just seems to know how to make good content.

At a uni lecture on thursday we ended up talking about Starcraft and I dropped the bomb that I have been playing FFXIV. Many people seem curious about it even now; just the bad reviews hurt it. Anyways I told everyone about 2.0, lots of us did not know of 2.0! So maybe that is a few more people that will join us online. =)

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Originally Posted by UmJammerSully

Here's an unfortunatly rather negative reaction from GameTrailers:

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mis...-latest-deceit

Though I have to agree that these CG-only trailers don't do much for me.

EDIT: Interestingly enough, there are actually many people defending the game in the comments.

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Yeah, I was the main one over their calling that editor out. "Leonesaurus" is my username over there too.

I was pissed when I saw that title. >:0

I'm going to have to declare shenanigans.
http://i.minus.com/jbv7YFRqSmdMsk.png
Why does the latter screenshot show a dip in only one MP bar without any actual change numerically?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I'm going to have to declare shenanigans.
http://i.minus.com/jbv7YFRqSmdMsk.png
Why does the latter screenshot show a dip in only one MP bar without any actual change numerically?

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They obviously at that exact moment just decided to eat food!

(To be serious though guys if the shots aren't just bullshots then they are probably playing on the obvious test servers with their stats frozen in God-mode)

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Originally Posted by Antipika

Sure the same guy with a chocobo avatar posting 8 times :|

That is also an issue some fans tend to forget when posting trying to defend XIV. Everyone is well aware that there are a lot of blind fanboys that would defend anything that SE makes.

I am not saying that this is the case here, but if I was a non-XIV player and would read the comments from actual players who are claiming that the game is amazing blablabla, I wouldn't really give them any credits.

The average XIV player will tell you good things about "his" game, just like a WoW player would, a GW2 player would and so on. After all if you play and pay for something it means you like it, so you're expected to have a positive attitude toward that product.

I would rather trust new players (or player who came back after a long absence) who would post comments like "I just (re)started playing and it's not as bad as people says", rather than "I am a XIV guru, been there since day 1, done all events, got a relic, all jobs 50, etc. and XIV is a good game!"

I often see XIV players trying to defend the game on external sites by bashing others non-players or casual players with arguments such as "You have less experience than me so I know better". Yeah but having more experience also mean your feedback has a way higher chance of being biased.

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For your information, I was that guy with the chocobo avatar posting 8 times. And I'd do it again too except it's annoying only having access to 300 characters per post. : l

I'll be honest, I was !@#$ing pissed when I saw that title.

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"Final Fantasy XIV's Latest Deception"

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mis...-latest-deceit

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Are you @!#$ing kidding me? Really? Can you honestly defend that and not care?

You really think they're trying to deceive people out there with all the hard work and dedication they've given back to us, the players, by being extremely vocal and connected to the community every step of the way?

If you don't feel bothered by it, then that's fine. You have every right to feel how ever you want. And that goes for anyone else out there. But me personally, I felt insulted as well, because you, me, and everyone else that has been playing the game every day has been supporting it just by continuing to play and offer tons of feedback on here.

You also cared to mention this:

"I often see XIV players trying to defend the game on external sites by bashing others non-players or casual players with arguments such as "You have less experience than me so I know better". Yeah but having more experience also mean your feedback has a way higher chance of being biased."

Here's what I say:

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with being more experienced in the game over others, nor an E-penis, or any sort of fanboyish mentality that one might think at some point. Not even being biased over liking the game that someone else doesn't play or didn't like at launch.

I understand what you're saying for the most part. And you're absolutely right, you can most certainly have the chance at looking biased.

But blindly defending the game on some gaming site and properly informing and pointing out errors are two different objectives but can easily be confused sometimes. It's a matter of something someone should do, because it's right to inform. It's bad to misinform like this article does when I noticed it on N4G.com.

You should have every right to properly inform the readers on that site and the editor himself of what he isn't aware of. He should also have been a little more patient and understanding of why they haven't released any gameplay footage yet.

But I'm pretty sure around Gamescom or Tokyo Game Show they'll have plenty more new things to show us.

He should have done a little more research into their plans and the schedule for everything they're releasing around this point in time.

It would enlighten himself and the readers of what it going on and what the plans are from here on out. And deceiving players like he mentions through that trailer is not fair.

He's drawing upon comparisons when the game first launched and the original trailer aired had lead many people to believe the game was complete and polished. However, that all was explained months ago under poor management the first time around, which isn't the case here anymore. It's pretty obviously you can tell the difference.

But for someone who hasn't been playing the game since launch, nor even touched the game at all, it's perfectly understandable why they would get that impression. But those are the readers, he's the editor. His job is to inform us, the readers with the facts and the truth.

THAT is what pissed me off. Not the fact that the users or the editor dislikes the game or is skeptical. That I am fine with, because that is how they feel. It is their own opinion, and opinions can change.

As a professional game journalist, it's their job to do research and understand the situation before claiming they're deceiving the audience and its customers.

That's not trying to blindly defend the game, that's called a wake up call of what has been going on while they haven't been covering the game the past 2 years.

I'm not saying post on their website every single minor patch and maintenance recorded on the lodstone, but at least Kotaku has the courtesy to post every major thing they've released since launch. And believe me I watch New4Gamers.com, Gametrailers.com and Kotaku religiously everyday for FF XIV information.

I know who does and doesn't follow this game. So, as I said on Gametrailers.com and again on here, the users can say whatever they want about the game, that's 100% fair and there's nothing wrong with that.

But as a gaming jounralist, at one of the largest and most popular gaming websites on the planet no less, they should do their research and not spread stupid articles about Sqaure-Enix trying to screw over people once again, while in reality they have specific reasons printed out of their schedule and plans.

I know Yoshida has been working his ass off to make us happy and I can tell he is, same as everyone else, so yeah, I was kind of pissed when Gametrailers.com to post an article for the first time in forever and make it out to be a deception on their part.

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And for you to say,

"blind fanboys that would defend anything that SE makes.

I am not saying that this is the case here, but if I was a non-XIV player and would read the comments from actual players who are claiming that the game is amazing blablabla, I wouldn't really give them any credits."

It's not about defending the game, it's about informing someone (which is the journalists responsibility) about what is really going on. He mentions nothing on the improvements the game has made since they reviewed it. Nor any of the many additions added.

Where's the blog post on the final patch before 2.0? (FF XIV: A Realm Reborn)

I'd say that was news worthy and informative.

I checked the logs and FF XIV only has 3 blog posts on their site since launch under their new Side Mission section for editorial writers.

I checked another friendly MMO out there, Star Wars: The Old Republic.

3 pages worth of blog posts.

Big difference, but enough with the comparisons. Just making a point that they didn't care about the game up until they had this trailer released. Meaning they themselves haven't been informed, and now the readers are getting the wrong impression.

Nor has he mentioned the alpha/beta test people can look forward to, nor the gameplay footage that is being planned after the new site and trailer were released. Yoshi P's letters, dev posts and the schedules they had printed out for at least a year now hint to and detail all these things in a sequential order.

They shouldn't spread or start misconceptions about the FF XIV team's goals just because they are jumping the gun after one CGI trailer. If they really cared, they would have made the effort to interview Yoshida @ E3 when Gametrailers was there covering everything else.

If they want gameplay footage over a CGI trailer that is perfectly 100% understandable. I can't fault them one bit for that.

However, posting an article talking about FF XIV and its team deceiving people out there because the writer thinks they're making the same mistakes again is a little premature.

It's ok if people are skeptical or don't end up liking the game for some reason, that's fine. Maybe I would be too? I can understand exactly why someone would feel that way.

But don't pass judgement or post a professional article intentionally making them out to be doing something that would swindle the consumer and/or the players.

That's not very fair, considering they haven't been following the game what so ever since launch, or when the fees reactivated over 7 months ago, as they stated in one of their only blog posts.

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But I'm going off too much on a tangent, so I apologize. I know it's not your fault, you only meant well. I just wanted to get that off my chest and explain the reasons behind my posts on that site for the game.

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Originally Posted by Leonesaurus

Yeah, I was the main one over their calling that editor out. "Leonesaurus" is my username over there too.

I was pissed when I saw that title. >:0

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I never liked any gameing website from spike. I do not like the article this editor typed either. They commonly talk in an unprofessional 'rude' tone (I might be getting it mixed up with G4).
Another sad thing is, they "Can't" show gameplay until they start Alpha and Beta testing, what gameplay are they going to show? Monster's running on air? A dragoon useing Jump when it's animation is going underground? Maybe they could show some stuff from there own servers, but they said that they are still working on it.
Plus this is only the Frist trailer/teaser, there will be more later.

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I logged on GT and "liked" all your post.

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Originally Posted by bobbygunz

The only noob saying "WoWerize" it was Yoshi from the beginning.

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Holla!

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

As the adage goes "fool me once.

People need cold hard facts.

The only thing this trailer confirms is that FFXIV 2.0 is not a rumor

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Yup we will see what they accomplished in a years time, while working on updating the current client simultaneously. Of course in more then 5 years time we had 1.0 from SE. So, Im keeping it real.

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Originally Posted by Galliano

I think the only thing that is going to pique people's interest is the big hitting games reviewers giving a hands on review and subsequently a high rating score at the end.

I can imagine a side by side comparison of 1.0 and 2.0 over multiple pages followed by the score they gave 1.0 back at launch and their new score for 2.0.

Hopefully something along the lines of:

"Our previous score for 1.0: 3.5, Our new score for 2.0: 9.5 (Must have game of the year!)"

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Ummm doubtful. Its the "in thing" to bash SE lately. Its even more popular to bash FF14 and call it an abysmal flop. I think many reviewers will look for whatever faults they can find and tear the game apart. While some reviewers will want to play good cop and give the game high reviews, just to be different. Then there are the reviewers who gave 1.0 75+ ratings at release... They are going to go bat shit crazy.

The only thing I care about is whether its fun to me and my friends( cause if they start dropping, im out) and whether SE starts hinting at going free to play or something equally drastic. But even then, if its fun ill play.

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Originally Posted by KatoKinko

I never liked any gameing website from spike. I do not like the article this editor typed either. They commonly talk in an unprofessional 'rude' tone (I might be getting it mixed up with G4).
Another sad thing is, they "Can't" show gameplay until they start Alpha and Beta testing, what gameplay are they going to show? Monster's running on air? A dragoon useing Jump when it's animation is going underground? Maybe they could show some stuff from there own servers, but they said that they are still working on it.
Plus this is only the Frist trailer/teaser, there will be more later.

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I logged on GT and "liked" all your post.

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LOL

And I just realized I typed up a F@#$ing novel above your post.... O______o;; woops.

But yeah, I mean, I don't mean to be an a$$hole to the guy who wrote that article. I even know exactly who he is. He's Mike Damiani on Gametrailers.com's Invisible Walls podcast show, which I've been watching almost every week for years now.

He just isn't really informed on what has been going on with this game and I felt the urge to respond on there since no one else was.

Plus, you nailed it on the head when you typed this:

"Another sad thing is, they "Can't" show gameplay until they start Alpha and Beta testing, what gameplay are they going to show? Monster's running on air? A dragoon useing Jump when it's animation is going underground? Maybe they could show some stuff from there own servers, but they said that they are still working on it."

You said it better than I could! LOL

And it's true! They can't show anything yet in a trailer, unless it's to the public (gaming journalists @ E3 behind closed doors) since the game isn't fully optimized yet. And the editor wasn't aware of that.

And when he responded to me and some other guys in the comments under his username, "MikeGt", he even asked why they didn't show it to the public at E3, and not behind closed doors. That's the reason why.

Good to know someone out there cares! haha

IF it's ANY consolation AT ALL, my cousin came over to stay a few days at my place. She has NEVER before played this game! And she has never played a FF title or mmo (Though she has played Runescape o.O...and hated it >.>). I said, "Hey! Wanna give FFXIV a shot?" she said, "I guess.."

So I made one of my characters inactive, and purchased another character slot and let her create a character on my account.

Anyway, I let her play and she couldn't stop. She asked me all sorts of questions along the lines of, 'Will her pc run it?' 'If not, does she need an adaptor for her ps3' (She never really took her ps3 online...but remembers me having to have to buy an adapter for FFXI), 'How much is it?', etc etc. She said when she gets a job, she'd love to get the game herself.

She is not a FF Fangirl.
She was not here for FFXIV's 1st release.
She never played it before.
And yet she loved it.

PRE-2.0 and she loved it.

So what does that tell you?

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Originally Posted by Spy

She is not a FF Fangirl.
She was not here for FFXIV's 1st release.
She never played it before.
And yet she loved it.

PRE-2.0 and she loved it.

So what does that tell you?

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Easily appeased.

FFXIV is no longer a bad game. But it's still not quite up to standard in terms of accessibility/new-user-friendliness/ohgodwhatthehellisthislag

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

EDIT: I'M DUMB AND CAN'T READ

Also should only be able to do 15 on one class and only 1 char.

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I feel like the purpose of the demo should be to show the flexibility of the one character/all class content. Maybe cap at 10, and show all jobs?

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Originally Posted by Spy

IF it's ANY consolation AT ALL, my cousin came over to stay a few days at my place. She has NEVER before played this game! And she has never played a FF title or mmo (Though she has played Runescape o.O...and hated it >.>). I said, "Hey! Wanna give FFXIV a shot?" she said, "I guess.."

So I made one of my characters inactive, and purchased another character slot and let her create a character on my account.

Anyway, I let her play and she couldn't stop. She asked me all sorts of questions along the lines of, 'Will her pc run it?' 'If not, does she need an adaptor for her ps3' (She never really took her ps3 online...but remembers me having to have to buy an adapter for FFXI), 'How much is it?', etc etc. She said when she gets a job, she'd love to get the game herself.

She is not a FF Fangirl.
She was not here for FFXIV's 1st release.
She never played it before.
And yet she loved it.

PRE-2.0 and she loved it.

So what does that tell you?

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Your cousin apparently has an exceptionally low standard of fun. One outlying case doesn't count a significant number of people who start playing the game, and then leave within a week because the game is still boring pre-40 because they can't find parties.

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Originally Posted by Rau

Your cousin apparently has an exceptionally low standard of fun. One outlying case doesn't count a significant number of people who start playing the game, and then leave within a week because the game is still boring pre-40 because they can't find parties.

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And our doubled subscription rate is a non-indication as well, right?

It's easy to belittle the outliers because you can point at them and say "That guy/girl. Yeah, she's dumb." It's hard to say that when the numbers coming in flat out match your own.

FFXIV has improved in leaps and bounds, and people who have been outside the info loop have failed to be properly informed with that, and this particular editor needs to get smacked for contributing to the problem.

Hi. Um, if you read the Massively article about the trailer (or, about a third of the articles they post overall actually), I'm the commenter Nonsensicles. I can tell you that overall the feeling in the comments is a pretty mixed bag on FFXIV articles in general, but that's as much good as bad.

I'm not sure there's any who flat-out loved the game from launch (apart from their FFXI/XIV columnist, Eliot Lefebvre, but even he acknowledges it was flawed), but there's only a few die-hard trolls who hate it no matter what. And only one of those had any longevity. Most fall in a spectrum from 'it's improved a great deal and the future looks to be bright and in good hands' (where I am) to 'I was burned and am reluctant to trust again, but I'll keep an eye on it just in case they can prove themselves to me'.

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Originally Posted by Spy

IF it's ANY consolation AT ALL, my cousin came over to stay a few days at my place. She has NEVER before played this game! And she has never played a FF title or mmo (Though she has played Runescape o.O...and hated it >.>). I said, "Hey! Wanna give FFXIV a shot?" she said, "I guess.."

So I made one of my characters inactive, and purchased another character slot and let her create a character on my account.

Anyway, I let her play and she couldn't stop. She asked me all sorts of questions along the lines of, 'Will her pc run it?' 'If not, does she need an adaptor for her ps3' (She never really took her ps3 online...but remembers me having to have to buy an adapter for FFXI), 'How much is it?', etc etc. She said when she gets a job, she'd love to get the game herself.

She is not a FF Fangirl.
She was not here for FFXIV's 1st release.
She never played it before.
And yet she loved it.

PRE-2.0 and she loved it.

So what does that tell you?

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Is she hot?

I do not think that Spy's cousin has a low standard of fun. I bought FFXIV a few days ago, with no knowledge of 2.0. It is very fun. The interface is a bit slower, but it is a very good game. Game reviewers are much more critical, though they are paid to be like this.

Does she like pretty colors and lick wallpaper?

Who cares what pundits are saying? I'm just the word on the street in Japan is probably different from ours, and Yoshi understands if he wins his own crowd back the rest will follow. Once the game is out, and people in Japan are raving about it, the news will spread and more will hop on the bandwagon. It's how the world works.

D3 forums talking about how FFXIV is looking good in 2.0 ~

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/top...4069634?page=1

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Originally Posted by RathSkybreaker

D3 forums talking about how FFXIV is looking good in 2.0 ~

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/top...4069634?page=1

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Read some of the comments, I'm amazed no WoW players shot it down on the blizzard forums.

It seems like SE has some respect among afew gamers of actually fixing the game instead of binning it and moving on.

So you guys really think that FFXI started out great like it did??? No it didnt it took time but people came to it eventually. You guys actually play the game and still trash talk it as if you aren't playing it yourself. Give Yoshi some damn credit at least he's trying to bring the game back. I have faith that this game is going to be the best

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Originally Posted by Fear

Read some of the comments, I'm amazed no WoW players shot it down on the blizzard forums.

It seems like SE has some respect among afew gamers of actually fixing the game instead of binning it and moving on.

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Yeah I was expecting flame wars, but no, completely opposite. :3 Some guy was even like "Just logged into my little lalafelle, time to get DRG AF! " lol..