wow... rested experience just wow...

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Originally Posted by Kiote

By making it so easy to hit Max level that there was no reason at all to participate in any of the content.

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Lol, even if the leveling WAS slower, who would stop along the way to 99 to run dynamis when they can get better gear from Abyssea...?

You make literally no sense.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

Do you honestly believe raising the Level Cap is going to slow down leveling?

At Most, the XPTNL will go up by 10k/level. Thats approximately 5 mins of XPing.

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It doesn't matter, but you don't know that it won't, and you have no solid proof to show that "at most" the xptnl will go up by 10k. You're just making up your own numbers based on the end of the current level curve. Doesn't mean that's how it's going to be.

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Lol, even if the leveling WAS slower, who would stop along the way to 99 to run dynamis when they can get better gear from Abyssea...?

You make literally no sense.

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A lot of people, Less than 10% of any given MMO's population focuses on End Game. That is an Absolute Fact. Most people never get there unless the game becomes so easy it is unplayable..

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Originally Posted by Kiote

A lot of people, Less than 10% of any given MMO's population focuses on End Game. That is an Absolute Fact. Most people never get there unless the game becomes so easy it is unplayable..

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That would make sense, if the content in question wasn't already end game. Yes, it was end game, it was just end game that became obsolete.

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Originally Posted by Rhomagus

It doesn't matter, but you don't know that it won't, and you have no solid proof to show that "at most" the xptnl will go up by 10k. You're just making up your own numbers based on the end of the current level curve. Doesn't mean that's how it's going to be.

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If there is one thing anyone can tell you it's that an MMO can not be viable with a leveling Curve that goes from go from Very fast to painstakingly slow. It spoils the player base. They get the feeling of monotony. IF the leveling curve drags to hard players lose interest. You have to keep is at a very slight curve or it break the game. Even if this game miraculously switches to a viable curve after 50 players will take offense to the inconsistency.

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Originally Posted by Nikita

That would make sense, if the content in question wasn't already end game. Yes, it was end game, it was just end game that became obsolete.

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The way MMOs maintain a population is by making "End Game" content into regular content once there is a new end of the game. The "Average" player is always expected to be one End Game behind. This is because as the game progresses the Old End Game naturally becomes easier and viable for the Average player. The Average player always has something to look forward to, they never finish the game. New End Game content is designed to appease the Hardcore.

If however, every player gets to max level faster than content can be created, the Hardcore feel alienated by a lack of means to be the best and the average player feels like there is nothing to do regardless of whether or not they have completed all end game content. The Average player needs something to aspire to, the hardcore needs something to brag about. A broken leveling curve eliminates both of these situations.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

This is not about the Casual vs. the Harcore. This is about the already heinous lack of a leveling curve in this game. Without rested XP or a Power Level, players already grind in this game for 1000xp/kill chaining 5-10 enemies at a time. A half decent XP party in this game nets 100k an hour. It is absolutely ridiculous. Throwing yet another means by which to increase the rate of XP gained is going to turn this game into XI's Absseya which effectively killed that game.

This game has only been out for a year and a half. It cannot afford to make leveling this easy. No MMO can afford to make leveling SO easy that anyone no matter how casual can hit max level in a week.

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Fair enough, but that is a completely different problem that has nothing to do with the target audience; people who are likely to benefit from the rested Exp buff most likely do not suffer from a too fast leveling curve.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

The way MMOs maintain a population is by making "End Game" content into regular content once there is a new end of the game. The "Average" player is always expected to be one End Game behind.

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Mmm, that is pretty subjective to your own experiences, though. Take WoW for example, the old way they did things was to do what you are explaining there, however they reached the height of their subscriber base around the time they changed things up and evened out the end game so everyone could be on it. Having to work on old content first was not fair to new players who really had no entry into the lowest tier of content because nearly nobody was doing it.

As for hardcore feeling alienated, there are always ways to appease them, we already see attempts at this in game now, with the timed chest in Darkhold and the hidden boss(es) in Toto'rak.

And I just want to point out, your point still falls flat, the content was simply outleveled, there was no reason at all to do it since it consumed too much time and offered so little reward when you could get new gear so easily in Abyssea. This is rather obvious, and leaving me to wonder if you actually played XI when Abyssea was released.

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Originally Posted by northernsky

Fair enough, but that is a completely different problem that has nothing to do with the target audience; people who are likely to benefit from the rested Exp buff most likely do not suffer from a too fast leveling curve.

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Sadly, everyone suffers from rested XP. This is namely because you start accumulating it immediately after logging out. If there was a delay in Gaining Rested XP such as you do not gain Any bonus for 36 after you log out, it would likely solve the problem in its entirety, but that's just not gonna happen.

ITT: Kiote pretends he developed all MMOs and backs his claims up with "facts". "Absolute facts" to be more precise.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

Sadly, everyone suffers from rested XP. This is namely because you start accumulating it immediately after logging out. If there was a delay in Gaining Rested XP such as you do not gain Any bonus for 36 after you log out, it would likely solve the problem in its entirety, but that's just not gonna happen.

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"Suffering" is really ill-placed for something intended to help players who don't have much play time level up more quickly, I think the word you mean is "benefit".

Personally, I think they should just add an option to turn it off for those that feel insecure with it on.

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Originally Posted by Rhomagus

ITT: Kiote pretends he developed all MMOs and backs his claims up with "facts". "Absolute facts" to be more precise.

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lol

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Originally Posted by Nikita

"Suffering" is really ill-placed for something intended to help players who don't have much play time level up more quickly, I think the word you mean is "benefit".

Personally, I think they should just add an option to turn it off for those that feel insecure with it on.

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to add: We can also stop making specific claims about how rested XP will work in XIV.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

Sadly, everyone suffers from rested XP. This is namely because you start accumulating it immediately after logging out. If there was a delay in Gaining Rested XP such as you do not gain Any bonus for 36 after you log out, it would likely solve the problem in its entirety, but that's just not gonna happen.

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I don't think I read anything like that in the producer letter that just hit the lodestone this morning.

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Originally Posted by Kairyu

When i didnt think this game could get any easier to level and go and do something like this... Like seriously wtf everyone and brother will have every single dow/dom job lvl 50 by 2.0 release. Leveling jobs should be part of the game or an experience, it was in 11. This game is just a boring grind fest in every aspect with no meaning.. leveling jobs 1-50 is just feels so pointless.. Idk i know most people felt 11 was that way but i felt like leveling had so much more meaning. In 11 having good gear actually meant something while leveling. Having the right party setup.. This game is just so easy.. Stick any 8 people with any jobs with any gear and you have a fast as hell exp party. SO stupid, then they add rested experience.

Otherwise the rest of the patch info looks suprisingly decent.

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*cry*
In 11...
In ffxi...
But in ffxi...
But you're not listening... In ffxi...
In final fantasy xi...
*cry some more*
In xi...
*tears slowly give way to unaldulterated anger*
IN XI!
*now your shouting*
*ppl are starting to stare as a once human figure suffers the sort of mental torture that morphs it's carnal form into something grotesque and writhing with hatred*
IN FINAL FANTASY XI/11!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!!!1!!!1!!1!1!!!1!1!1!!1!!
*smashes a nearby wall in.. Causing the walls nearby to crumble and decay as his animosity seeps into every pore of carbon in close proximity*
XI!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1
*the molecular dissonance lessens and all form of self control has been lost. This creature was once human. It's every extremity pulses with the severity of an anger so extreme that it nears critical mass. Implosion is imminent...*

The gathered crowd begins to weep... the sadness of the loss o life they just witnessed far too much for their humanity to comprehend... What had caused this they puzzled as it was the very air of their puzzlement so common as to be noticeable...

What was this FFXI?

Would it strike again?

If so... Who was next...?

*huggles~!* :3

A bonus that increases while you don't play is going to make people level faster?! By the Gods, that's going to make it where people that don't have time to play much can level just as much as the people that spend all day playing!

This doesn't affect anything negatively, but lets ignorantly complain about it anyways! RAWR!

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Sadly, everyone suffers from rested XP. This is namely because you start accumulating it immediately after logging out. If there was a delay in Gaining Rested XP such as you do not gain Any bonus for 36 after you log out, it would likely solve the problem in its entirety, but that's just not gonna happen.

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I wish I could have extracted that info from the letter myself, but I could not.

Basically, I expect rested Exp to be comparable to the Guardian aspect in potency, but with more flexibility. Maybe a bit stronger for really casual player, but then again, I really don't know.

I trust the devs here for balancing they are aware of all that stuff that people bring here

It just amazes me, forums really are no different no matter which game you play. People will complain about everything they possibly can, and they will make up any excuse for it, no matter how silly or insignificant.

I swear, if SE gave us an in game item as a gift for supporting them, people would not only complain about the gift itself, they would complain about it being handed to them, despite it being a gift.

Oh wait...

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Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

*cry*
In 11...
In ffxi...
But in ffxi...
But you're not listening... In ffxi...
In final fantasy xi...
*cry some more*
In xi...
*tears slowly give way to unaldulterated anger*
IN XI!
*now your shouting*
*ppl are starting to stare as a once human figure suffers the sort of mental torture that morphs it's carnal form into something grotesque and writhing with hatred*
IN FINAL FANTASY XI/11!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!!!1!!!1!!1!1!!!1!1!1!!1!!
*smashes a nearby wall in.. Causing the walls nearby to crumble and decay as his animosity seeps into every pore of carbon in close proximity*
XI!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1
*the molecular dissonance lessens and all form of self control has been lost. This creature was once human. It's every extremity pulses with the severity of an anger so extreme that it nears critical mass. Implosion is imminent...*

The gathered crowd begins to weep... the sadness of the loss o life they just witnessed far too much for their humanity to comprehend... What had caused this they puzzled as it was the very air of their puzzlement so common as to be noticeable...

What was this FFXI?

Would it strike again?

If so... Who was next...?

*huggles~!* :3

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And we wept out of fear for the children.

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ITT: Kiote pretends he developed all MMOs and backs his claims up with "facts". "Absolute facts" to be more precise.

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I actually do work on MMOs, and I actually do see the marketing data. I know how the whole process goes down, and I know what does and does not work.

The simple fact of the matter is that when you make an MMO to easy, people get bored and quit. Why do you think this game gets a week long population spike at every patch. It's not because they just want to see what got put in. It's because they do everything and stop playing. If you didn't notice, the largest drop in this games population, besides launch, occurred when PLing became rampant. It wasn't because people hated the PLing, it was because they finished everything in the game so fast they no longer had a reason to play.

The type of people drawn to these kind of games are the type seeking a long in depth game. Yes, that may not be you, but that makes you the minority. Just like people who play to do Large End game Raids are the minority. That is just how this genre works. Most people play the middle of the game forever. That's how you make money.

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I actually do work on MMOs, and I actually do see the marketing data. I know how the whole process goes down, and I know what does and does not work.

The simple fact of the matter is that when you make an MMO to easy, people get bored and quit. Why do you think this game gets a week long population spike at every patch. It's not because they just want to see what got put in. It's because they do everything and stop playing. If you didn't notice, the largest drop in this games population, besides launch, occurred when PLing became rampant. It wasn't because people hated the PLing, it was because they finished everything in the game so fast they no longer had a reason to play.

The type of people drawn to these kind of games are the type seeking a long in depth game. Yes, that may not be you, but that makes you the minority. Just like people who play to do Large End game Raids are the minority. That is just how this genre works. Most people play the middle of the game forever. That's how you make money.

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Oh awesome! Which ones and what's your role?

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I actually do work on MMOs

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Oh thank god no wonder the opinions you express sound so stupid and lacking of any solid basis whatsoever - I was worrying for a second that you were quite literally retarded.

You are clearly a spy, attempting to plant ideas that are bad for the game so that FFXIV will fail, making room for your new MMO "Hug n' Kiss Kitty Online".

So sneaky!

Maybe Rokien is your partner in this new MMO... that would explain.... everything!!!!!!!!!

PS: Your MMO sucks.

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Originally Posted by northernsky

I wish I could have extracted that info from the letter myself, but I could not.

Basically, I expect rested Exp to be comparable to the Guardian aspect in potency, but with more flexibility. Maybe a bit stronger for really casual player, but then again, I really don't know.

I trust the devs here for balancing they are aware of all that stuff that people bring here

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If you had taken the time to actually read this forum, you would have noticed that i am discussing Rested XP as it was implemented in every other MMO since it was thought up. You may be astonished to know that it has never changed.

That being said, I already stated, which you would also have found out by reading before you comment, that it is possible for this system to be different. That, however, does not mean that we should not discuss the flaws of a system and how they could possibly impact the system already in this game. That is, after all, why these forums exist.

There is a blatant flaw in the Standard Rested XP system when it is applied to FFXIV. That is the simple fact that we already receive far to much XP to maintain a decent leveling curve without the majority of player out leveling the game. There is no need for Bonus XP for a grind party in a Game that at Max level currently requires only 100 Kills to level.

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Oh awesome! Which ones and what's your role?

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Rhomagus!! I really haven't looked into it but what ever happened to the Dodo Stampede!?

:( I miss your sexy voice.

I'm blown away by all the facts.

I never knew.

My entire worldview has completely changed.

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Rhomagus!! I really haven't looked into it but what ever happened to the Dodo Stampede!?

:( I miss your sexy voice.

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What?

Are you one of the computers that was programmed to love?

What sorcery is this?

To be honest though a lot of things happened. Aniero put it best on this last week's episode of Push to Talk;

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"Getting people together for a podcast is like herding cats."

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How true that is.

Also creative differences.

Also real life/work/holiday season.

On the upside, I do plan on releasing something here soon. Still have to write up some show outlines. I'll probably have something available around 1.21 or so.

This is the second time someone called me out on the forums in reference to the show. It really is a pleasant surprise ^^b

p.s. also skyrim

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It just amazes me, forums really are no different no matter which game you play. People will complain about everything they possibly can, and they will make up any excuse for it, no matter how silly or insignificant.

I swear, if SE gave us an in game item as a gift for supporting them, people would not only complain about the gift itself, they would complain about it being handed to them, despite it being a gift.

Oh wait...

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I still complain about that gift but shhh ^.^

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*snip*

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The chemistry you all have is perfect, its a shame you have scheduling issues, I haven't laughed so hard listening to a podcast since Chinchilla was on PFA (*sniff*)!

Plus, you do have a hot voice.

I do hope there is a future for your podcast! ;_; I will be happy to see what you have in store. :D

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The chemistry you all have is perfect, its a shame you have scheduling issues, I haven't laughed so hard listening to a podcast since Chinchilla was on PFA (*sniff*)!

Plus, you do have a hot voice.

I do hope there is a future for your podcast! ;_; I will be happy to see what you have in store. :D

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I'm floored by the compliments. Thank you very much, especially the Chinchilla reference. I too have not laughed so hard listening to a podcast since Chinchilla was on PFA.

*to the drawing board*

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If you had taken the time to actually read this forum, you would have noticed that i am discussing Rested XP as it was implemented in every other MMO since it was thought up. You may be astonished to know that it has never changed.

That being said, I already stated, which you would also have found out by reading before you comment, that it is possible for this system to be different. That, however, does not mean that we should not discuss the flaws of a system and how they could possibly impact the system already in this game. That is, after all, why these forums exist.

There is a blatant flaw in the Standard Rested XP system when it is applied to FFXIV. That is the simple fact that we already receive far to much XP to maintain a decent leveling curve without the majority of player out leveling the game. There is no need for Bonus XP for a grind party in a Game that at Max level currently requires only 100 Kills to level.

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Now you are assuming what I have read or not, or understood or not, and these assumptions you make are the exact reason that I disagree with some of your points; that does not mean that I am attacking your argument as a whole.

I entirely agree with the bolded part. Now if you try to understand my point rather than trying to find reasons to discard my posts, you will notice that what I want to point out is that I don't see why people are assuming the worse, and yes, they do.

For instance, there is no reason to assume that such bonus will be more potent than the current guardian aspect, so no reason to assume that it will make leveling easier than it is now. Is current leveling too easy? That is a different problem. There is no reason to assume that it will be totally unbalanced and ruin the game.

I respect that you work in MMOs and appreciate your input, but do you think that the dev team has overlooked such basic aspects that you point out even tho you don't know the specifics? Don't forget that the game is being built for 2.0's content and playerbase, it will never deliver a satisfying amount of content to keep maxed players busy until that time.

Of course it's worth discussing it, that's what those forums are for. But assuming a failure based on what we don't know is not constructive. Propositions, like that "Lag before accumulating bonus" thingy you brought, are constructive.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

If you had taken the time to actually read this forum, you would have noticed that i am discussing Rested XP as it was implemented in every other MMO since it was thought up. You may be astonished to know that it has never changed.

That being said, I already stated, which you would also have found out by reading before you comment, that it is possible for this system to be different. That, however, does not mean that we should not discuss the flaws of a system and how they could possibly impact the system already in this game. That is, after all, why these forums exist.

There is a blatant flaw in the Standard Rested XP system when it is applied to FFXIV. That is the simple fact that we already receive far to much XP to maintain a decent leveling curve without the majority of player out leveling the game. There is no need for Bonus XP for a grind party in a Game that at Max level currently requires only 100 Kills to level.

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From within the pressing crowd walks out a lone child... a small tear sliding down her weathered cheek. A nearby man attempts to restrain the child, shouting verbal warnings in a frantic tone. Nervously the little girl escapes the man's ever fading alerts and continues to walk forward, her eyes affixed on the writhing creature.

Weak from mental and physical exertion, the creature spasms uncontrollably yelling curses in a monotone drone, it's eyes moving dully with a lucidity liken to insanity.

As the girl draws nearer to the creature, the monster begins to move toward the girl in psychotic jerks with an eerie sluggish motion.

A moogle appears between the two...
It squeaks, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, KUPO!"

The girl is startled.
The monster looks startled.
The moogle is suddenly wearing a shirt with large black letters that read "FFXI"!

The moogle speaks again in it's squeaky yet cute voice, "Why oh why... kupo... young girl you know this monster will kill you yes, kupo? And monster... you know you're about to kill this innocent girl, yes kupo?"

The girl nods.
The monster nods.

The moogle seems baffled, yet amused, "Then why kupo are you... kupo... going through with it?... KUPO?!?!?!?!?!?!"

The girl replies softly in a thick british accent, "'cause imma innocent lil o' girl, sur" *making a sadface*

The moogle nods partially and then looks at the monster expectantly with a *you should know better* look on it's face.

The monster grunts in a voice sounding much like the depths of hell made manifest, "IM A SCIENTIST! UMM...." *the creature seems confused and intent on chasing the thought indefinitely escaping the tiny thought catcher in his head* "S.T.A.R-rRRRR-RRR-RR-RRRRRRRRRRR... MMO MAKE... ME... SAD... ME KILL... ALL THING IN WORLD... !!1!1!1!1!!11"

The moogle winces at the now screechingly loud beast and sighs... "why... kupo.. are you so messed up kupo?"

The beast BASHES A CAR WITH HIS BAREFIST! "S.T.A.RZzzZzzZ!!!!!!!! ME DESTROY ALL! ANGERRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrr!"

Yoshi-P appears and slaps everyone in the face, "LOOK! IM TIRED, I BARELY SLEEP! IM STARTING TO LOOK LIKE AN OLD GRANDPA AND THIS FFXIV PROJECT IS STRESSING ME THE ****(Danish for cheese) OUT!! SO GET A LIFE AND STOP BASHING MY ****'ing GAME OKAY?!"

The moogle and everyone else gasps and nods in agreement. However, the monster is more enraged! The beast shrieks in some unkown language directed straight at Yoshi-P! "ME BETTER THAN YOU!!! DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

The beast attempts to strike Yoshi-P. Yoshi sees the fatal destructo blow nearing and...

DELETES THE MONSTERS ACCOUNT.

The End.

*huggles* :3

You know, maybe this is just me being a Grammar Nazi, but I really can't take anyone seriously as any kind of halfway decent professional if they don't even know the difference between "to" and "too". The odd typo? Fine. But mistaking the two words, every single time, tells me that you failed at English, and hence, have communication skills too poor to make you a valuable asset to any business worth its salt.

In other news, rested experience kills all MMOs -- that's why WoW was so unpopular. Shit died after like a month. Why would FFXIV be stupid enough to take cues from such a failed product?

Derpa derpa.

Check the sig yo.

Gath is amused by how much he seriously loves this thread.

Gath loves it so much that the story Areeya told made Gath hppy.

Gath wonders, what is this thread about? Gath was intrigued by the story and the moogle and the slapping.

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

reiterating a couple points: not being punished for doing something is not the same thing as being rewarded for not doing it, rested exp is a system which allows less punishment for low playtime and does not have a directly negative impact on those with high playtime, the indirect potential impact on those with high play time is negated by the fluid and uninhibited nature of current content, it's not like a botched dynamis run or a failed KB camping will set you back days, at worst it'll cost you a few thousand in repairs; there is no "rested lrn2play" bonus

battlecraft classes are barely going to notice this unless they ninja in some rather extreme exp reforms at the same time, this will however make high level DoH and DoL leveling suck a bunch less given the craptastic nature of leves for each

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When i didnt think this game could get any easier to level and go and do something like this... Like seriously wtf everyone and brother will have every single dow/dom job lvl 50 by 2.0 release. Leveling jobs should be part of the game or an experience, it was in 11. This game is just a boring grind fest in every aspect with no meaning.. leveling jobs 1-50 is just feels so pointless.. Idk i know most people felt 11 was that way but i felt like leveling had so much more meaning. In 11 having good gear actually meant something while leveling. Having the right party setup.. This game is just so easy.. Stick any 8 people with any jobs with any gear and you have a fast as hell exp party. SO stupid, then they add rested experience.

Otherwise the rest of the patch info looks suprisingly decent.

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Are you kidding me? In what way was XI not a grind fest? Did we play same game?
All you did in XI was grind to 75 ASAP because all the other content was unimportant and boring.
XI went through a phase where lvling was extremely boring and stupid (when it came out in NA). We had to go to places like Valley of Sorrows or Sky to level which in itself took about an hour. There parties averaged maybe 15k/h with 100k tnl or something like that. Leveling dint become actually OK till maybe TOAU. Do not even get me started about waiting around for 4 hours to find proper job setup.

Do you prefer exp fatigue for playing too much or exp bonus for playing too low? choose one :)

With what -little- we all know about XIV's iteration of "rested experience" I believe it's a fantastic idea. I won't knock it until I try it.

It amazes me every time I read this forum how so much of this community wants to sabotage this game.
Here's a newsflash for you. XI HD will never happen, if it did it would not succeed. There are people who play less than 12 hours a day, there's people who can play 2 hours a day or only on the weekends. They need rested exp.
Instead of supporting ideas like this that will attract wider diversity of users you guys shut it down. You cant compromise cant you? Instead it's "I want XI HD cuz it's gonna make tons of money if they redid it!" No it wont, nothing with "the glory days XI" will attract more than 100k subs.
This game needs another million players if you have any hope for a expansive endgame and content flowing. They need to cater to people who can play 2h a day first because those will be the majority. Not the 12k of players we got now.
All I'm saying is, think logically about this situation.

And all I'm saying is why should people be rewarded for not playing the game..... come on now, think about it logically, if you don't have the time to play a MMORPG, AN MMORPG, i'll say it again, not a single player game a MMORPG. Come on now, think about it logically.

Also for you saying FFXI HD, no ones ever saying make it into FFXI-2, though I will say it again, there is only one FFXI while there is many WoWs

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they just need to give an anima bonus, not an EXP bonus. makes much more sense.
my idea: let anima recover faster when in your room.

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I think both can work really well if implemented correctly, very good idea on the anima ^^

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It amazes me every time I read this forum how so much of this community wants to sabotage this game.
Here's a newsflash for you. XI HD will never happen, if it did it would not succeed. There are people who play less than 12 hours a day, there's people who can play 2 hours a day or only on the weekends. They need rested exp.
Instead of supporting ideas like this that will attract wider diversity of users you guys shut it down. You cant compromise cant you? Instead it's "I want XI HD cuz it's gonna make tons of money if they redid it!" No it wont, nothing with "the glory days XI" will attract more than 100k subs.
This game needs another million players if you have any hope for a expansive endgame and content flowing. They need to cater to people who can play 2h a day first because those will be the majority. Not the 12k of players we got now.
All I'm saying is, think logically about this situation.

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Could not agree more.

I also find it fascinating that the people making the point "I play 8 hours a day and it's unfair that people playing 1 hour a day gets a bonus" almost all seem to miss the point. I completely agree that it's unfair, but what is unfair is that you have time to play the game 8 hours a day and I only have time to play 1 hour.