This game is great

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Originally Posted by kinslayer-

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A new player putting the game-specific term "Voidsent" in their name raises eyebrows indeed. As does their complete absence from not only this discussion but making any further posts elsewhere in the forum. People don't make gushing praises like this spontaneously and then not even stick around to chat.

Red flags abound. Still gotta be civil for those who really are genuine and wanting to stick around and try to participate in the forum.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

A new player putting the game-specific term "Voidsent" in their name raises eyebrows indeed.

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My first character name was a custom lore appropriate Sea Wolf name made using the official dictionary. New players know what Google is.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I pay a lot more than you do every single month, I wont say the exact number because of privacy reasons, but I pay more than 5 times what you pay monthly

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consumer versus customer, the ultimate battle.....

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I pay a lot more than you do every single month, I wont say the exact number because of privacy reasons, but I pay more than 5 times what you pay monthly, so you cant tell me I hate the game, if I did, I wouldnt be playing or paying this much.

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Why exactly is this something you would want to admit to? This might just be one of the rare Stormpeaks Ls.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

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Why exactly is this something you would want to admit to? This might just be one of the rare Stormpeaks Ls.

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That was not the point, the point is that I cant hate a game that I pay so much for, why would I ? I might as well throw the money out of the window of flush it down the toilet if I hate the game and I pay that much, that means I find some things good in the game that make it worth my money, that's the point of my comment

I really love how people just like comments because they are against what I am saying, literally not even reading my responses or using any sort of common sense to understand the point I am trying to make

"hurrr durrrr stormpeaks posted lets like the posts questioning them or what they're writing"

If I go to a restaurant that has amazing steak one day, and then I go every single other day of the week, that means the steak is good, maybe the salad isnt up to par, but damn do I love the steak, so I keep on coming back every day of the week, this is the same principle, I wouldnt keep going back there every day of the week if the steak was rotten or tasted disgusting

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Originally Posted by Reinha

My first character name was a custom lore appropriate Sea Wolf name made using the official dictionary. New players know what Google is.

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Right, but do they know that they need to google a local name for demons? That's a rather more specific search than naming conventions where you already have the terms you're searching for.

Not saying it's a definitive proof that they're not genuine, but it raised a question mark, compounded by (as I said) coming into the forum just to gush and then not try to actually join any forum discussion. And mentioning the ever-weaponised "Yoshida cried" thing like they're trying to play forum hot-button bingo.

As I said previously, scepticism has to be the default setting because the more blatant trolls have made it that we can't have nice things.

Out of context, "Void-sent" sounds like a generically edgy term someone might pull out of thin air. Whether it actually is or not in this case is anyone's guess, of course.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I really love how people just like comments because they are against what I am saying, literally not even reading my responses or using any sort of common sense to understand the point I am trying to make

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That's about typical for this forum. I mean I thought your point was pretty clear, granted you've been pretty abrasive around the forum, and now because of that, doesn't matter what you say for some people, they'll just immediately see your post and refuse to properly engage/comprehend what you're saying/hivemind "stormpeaks bad" and support anything that goes against you regardless of if you're right or wrong.

Anyways, I've been busy so I wasn't able to follow up on the housing design thing, but later this week I'll be available, I'll try to remember to hit you up and see if you still wanna.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Right, but do they know that they need to google a local name for demons? That's a rather more specific search than naming conventions where you already have the terms you're searching for.

Not saying it's a definitive proof that they're not genuine, but it raised a question mark, compounded by (as I said) coming into the forum just to gush and then not try to actually join any forum discussion. And mentioning the ever-weaponised "Yoshida cried" thing like they're trying to play forum hot-button bingo.

As I said previously, scepticism has to be the default setting because the more blatant trolls have made it that we can't have nice things.

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I feel like I was put on trial immediately upon joining the forums. I didn't know that Yoshida crying was weaponized and I didn't mean to annoy people by mentioning that. Someone in my fc told me about it and I thought it was cool. Having a developer care that much is rare. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to feel any other way.

I really don't want any of this trouble. I'll leave ya'll be and stick to playing at my own pace. This place was a big mistake. I don't know how the people online in the game can be so welcome but the forums can be such a bunch of crazies.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

That was not the point, the point is that I cant hate a game that I pay so much for, why would I ? I might as well throw the money out of the window of flush it down the toilet if I hate the game and I pay that much, that means I find some things good in the game that make it worth my money, that's the point of my comment

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Fair enough, just seems like a weird way to prove it, but maybe that's just me. There are certain trolls who have admitted in the past to spending money on their account just to post on the forums, so I'm not sure how great of a metric that is.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I really love how people just like comments because they are against what I am saying, literally not even reading my responses or using any sort of common sense to understand the point I am trying to make

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Tbh, they probably don't even read the entirety of the post that's disagreeing with you before liking it either, which is equally sad.

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

That's about typical for this forum. I mean I thought your point was pretty clear, granted you've been pretty abrasive around the forum, and now because of that, doesn't matter what you say for some people, they'll just immediately see your post and refuse to properly engage/comprehend what you're saying/hivemind "stormpeaks bad" and support anything that goes against you regardless of if you're right or wrong.

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Basically the same thing that used to/still does happen to Aveyond in the rare instances where he still bothers to post here.

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Originally Posted by PetThisMiqo

I feel like I was put on trial immediately upon joining the forums. I didn't know that Yoshida crying was weaponized and I didn't mean to annoy people by mentioning that. Someone in my fc told me about it and I thought it was cool. Having a developer care that much is rare. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to feel any other way.

I really don't want any of this trouble. I'll leave ya'll be and stick to playing at my own pace. This place was a big mistake. I don't know how the people online in the game can be so welcome but the forums can be such a bunch of crazies.

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Yeah - sadly, there is quite a difference between the in-game community and the forum one. I guess, as has been discussed already, forumites generally lean toward being a little more cynical and perhaps negative.

And when you take into consideration the number of posts made trolls pretending to be newbies of late being as frequent as they have been, I tend to think that this was a really bad case of unfortunate timing.

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Originally Posted by PetThisMiqo

I have nothing to do with whatever is going on in there. If I was a bot I would be a lot more efficient than what I am. I didn't even have my job stone because my fc told me it wasn't that important and people on here were mocking me so I went and got it.

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Proof the bullying works and is good.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Proof the bullying works and is good.

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My question is what kind of FC tells a new player that the job stone isn't important??? Like, that's the majority of a job, what the heck lmao

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Originally Posted by PetThisMiqo

I feel like I was put on trial immediately upon joining the forums. I didn't know that Yoshida crying was weaponized and I didn't mean to annoy people by mentioning that. Someone in my fc told me about it and I thought it was cool. Having a developer care that much is rare. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to feel any other way.

I really don't want any of this trouble. I'll leave ya'll be and stick to playing at my own pace. This place was a big mistake. I don't know how the people online in the game can be so welcome but the forums can be such a bunch of crazies.

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Im sorry you had that experience here. It echoes my own experiences a lot. Just remember, the number of crazies on this forum seems like it could be as low as single digits sometimes, while in game, hundreds of thousands if not 7 figures of people are right there with you, loving the game. I come here cause im old hat at defending things that are unpopular and I love this game, and there is nothing the crazies can do to change my mind about it. But I recommend maybe avoiding the forums at least until you are finished with MSQ.

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Originally Posted by PetThisMiqo

I feel like I was put on trial immediately upon joining the forums. I didn't know that Yoshida crying was weaponized and I didn't mean to annoy people by mentioning that. Someone in my fc told me about it and I thought it was cool. Having a developer care that much is rare. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to feel any other way.

I really don't want any of this trouble. I'll leave ya'll be and stick to playing at my own pace. This place was a big mistake. I don't know how the people online in the game can be so welcome but the forums can be such a bunch of crazies.

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ugh, I'm sorry you had a bad experience. As much as it's not for me, I would check out the subreddit for ffxiv at https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/ . You'll have a much better experience. It's not as much discussion, but it's more positive than here if that's what you're looking for.

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

That's about typical for this forum. I mean I thought your point was pretty clear, granted you've been pretty abrasive around the forum, and now because of that, doesn't matter what you say for some people, they'll just immediately see your post and refuse to properly engage/comprehend what you're saying/hivemind "stormpeaks bad" and support anything that goes against you regardless of if you're right or wrong.

Anyways, I've been busy so I wasn't able to follow up on the housing design thing, but later this week I'll be available, I'll try to remember to hit you up and see if you still wanna.

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Like you said, there are consequences to being regularly abrasive on a forum. For many it’s not really what you are saying, but how you go about saying it. Regularly posting snippy and disparaging replies to a variety of people will lose an audience.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Like you said, there are consequences to being regularly abrasive on a forum. For many it’s not really what you are saying, but how you go about saying it. Regularly posting snippy and disparaging replies to a variety of people will lose an audience.

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Except the difference here is how people respond to Storm and are so blinded by "oh em gee Storm dared to post something" and completely miss his point/not even acknowledge his point. It's happened a few times, even outside this thread. If you don't like someone because they were mean on an online forum, fine. Ignore them, don't engage with them, and ffs don't repeatedly say you have them on ignore. If you're going to respond to them, respond how you expect to be treated. I've had issues with Storm here and there, but that doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly be childish whenever I interact with him, ESPECIALLY when he makes an objectively good point on something.

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

Except the difference here is how people respond to Storm and are so blinded by "oh em gee Storm dared to post something" and completely miss his point/not even acknowledge his point. It's happened a few times, even outside this thread. If you don't like someone because they were mean on an online forum, fine. Ignore them, don't engage with them, and ffs don't repeatedly say you have them on ignore. If you're going to respond to them, respond how you expect to be treated. I've had issues with Storm here and there, but that doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly be childish whenever I interact with him, ESPECIALLY when he makes an objectively good point on something.

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That's great for you, but for others like myself, respect is a two-way street. Certain people are quite aggressive here, are typically first to go on the offensive on numerous occasions. So they reaped what they sowed if people ignore and don't care what they have to say now.

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

Except the difference here is how people respond to Storm and are so blinded by "oh em gee Storm dared to post something" and completely miss his point/not even acknowledge his point. It's happened a few times, even outside this thread. If you don't like someone because they were mean on an online forum, fine. Ignore them, don't engage with them, and ffs don't repeatedly say you have them on ignore. If you're going to respond to them, respond how you expect to be treated. I've had issues with Storm here and there, but that doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly be childish whenever I interact with him, ESPECIALLY when he makes an objectively good point on something.

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As much as I appreciate you for doing what you're doing, you really are wasting your time, but thank you : p and for housing you can poke me in game at the end of the week whenever I still have an NA char I'll come take a look at what you've done

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

If you're going to respond to them, respond how you expect to be treated.

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It's a good rule, but it should apply to everyone, not just the people that are being aggressive towards someone equally aggressive.

How about "If you're going to respond to people aggressively, expect to be treated the same"? Let's not pretend that Stormy is a ray of sunshine on these forums. If we're sticking to old school biblical references, let's go with "you reap what you sow".

I understand Stormy now, so I don't personally have any issues with her, but don't pretend she hasn't given as much nastiness as she's gotten.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

It's a good rule, but it should apply to everyone, not just the people that are being aggressive towards someone equally aggressive.

How about "If you're going to respond to people aggressively, expect to be treated the same"? Let's not pretend that Stormy is a ray of sunshine on these forums. If we're sticking to old school biblical references, let's go with "you reap what you sow".

I understand Stormy now, so I don't personally have any issues with her, but don't pretend she hasn't given as much nastiness as she's gotten.

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I treat everyone how I'd want to be treated...until they give me reason not to.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

It's a good rule, but it should apply to everyone, not just the people that are being aggressive towards someone equally aggressive.

How about "If you're going to respond to people aggressively, expect to be treated the same"? Let's not pretend that Stormy is a ray of sunshine on these forums. If we're sticking to old school biblical references, let's go with "you reap what you sow".

I understand Stormy now, so I don't personally have any issues with her, but don't pretend she hasn't given as much nastiness as she's gotten.

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A lot of the vitriolic responses I give are to people either straight up telling people to quit because they dislike X or X which at this point is the most obnoxious response possible, you are providing no decent feedback to the person complaining, you provide nothing by telling them "haha you dont like island sanctuary ? just quit bro !!" You're literally just being a nuisance and trying to make the complaint/feedback invalid by just telling them to quit (to clarify I am not saying you're doing that, I am talking in general)

I give vitriol to people giving me or others vitriol in 95% of the cases if you look, and I dont see why I wouldnt.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

It's a good rule, but it should apply to everyone, not just the people that are being aggressive towards someone equally aggressive.

How about "If you're going to respond to people aggressively, expect to be treated the same"? Let's not pretend that Stormy is a ray of sunshine on these forums. If we're sticking to old school biblical references, let's go with "you reap what you sow".

I understand Stormy now, so I don't personally have any issues with her, but don't pretend she hasn't given as much nastiness as she's gotten.

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My point was some people can't "see the forest for the trees" so to speak, so instead of engaging with Storm's point they'll proceed to ignore it and hyperfixate on something else/just attack Storm. I'm not saying Storm has been perfect, one of my previous posts in this thread even said he was abrasive. But I just don't like the whole "disregard point because of poster" nonsense. If you don't like the poster just don't engage, it's not hard.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

As much as I appreciate you for doing what you're doing, you really are wasting your time, but thank you : p and for housing you can poke me in game at the end of the week whenever I still have an NA char I'll come take a look at what you've done

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I've been wasting my life on Ark Survival Evolved (bad game don't play it) and my friend wants to play more Outlast Trials so I'll try to remember LOL

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

That's great for you, but for others like myself, respect is a two-way street. Certain people are quite aggressive here, are typically first to go on the offensive on numerous occasions. So they reaped what they sowed if people ignore and don't care what they have to say now.

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Yes I agree respect is a two way street, but if you're just going to resort to childish levels of "I'm gonna get this poster I hate!" then you might as well not even respond instead of twisting what the person says or, you know, doing the thing you are against.

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

Yes I agree respect is a two way street, but if you're just going to resort to childish levels of "I'm gonna get this poster I hate!" then you might as well not even respond instead of twisting what the person says or, you know, doing the thing you are against.

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Edit: As an aside I took a peek at some of Stormpeaks more recent discussions and this Stormpeaks seems fine to me. Wish I knew this Stormpeaks months ago. So maybe there is somthing to taking things one day at a time. She (he?) seems like any other poster so maybe I'm a bit outdated.

Removed my earlier content as there really is no need to critique her further for something that happened months ago.

To Stormpeaks: I'm sorry I called you a troll in the past. I honestly thought that was your intentions. While things can get heated and we don't often agree, it doesn't make you a troll. I am able to own up to something I said or my own behavior that was wrong, so I can say that.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

I treat everyone how I'd want to be treated...until they give me reason not to.

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This is a very good way to go about things. I typically try to be open minded to other people (not to the point of denying objective truth and reality, but as much as I can otherwise) but there are definitely a few posters on the forums that have given me a reason not to.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

If we're sticking to old school biblical references, let's go with "you reap what you sow". I understand Stormy now, so I don't personally have any issues with her, but don't pretend she hasn't given as much nastiness as she's gotten.

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The kinds of people who react to posters like Stormpeaks have a tendency to react in a manner that far exceeds how problematic the original post they're reacting to was. (assuming it really ever even was in the first place) Perhaps the saying should be "you reap what you sow, and then some more for good measure"

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

To Stormpeaks: I'm sorry I called you a troll in the past. I honestly thought that was your intentions. While things can get heated and we don't often agree, it doesn't make you a troll. I am able to own up to something I said or my own behavior that was wrong, so I can say that.

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I do wish that the forums in general would stop flinging around the word 'troll' so flippantly and save it for the people who are actually trolls. Perhaps this post here can serve as an example for others to follow.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Well, it's worth saying that this is at least something we can do here.

I mean, the forum of the game I used to play is so adverse to negative comments about the game that the CM/moderators will either edit the post, removing the negative remarks or simply outright ban the player who dared express a negative opinion in the first place.

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New world? i vaguely remember this being an issue with that game

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Edit: As an aside I took a peek at some of Stormpeaks more recent discussions and this Stormpeaks seems fine to me. Wish I knew this Stormpeaks months ago. So maybe there is somthing to taking things one day at a time. She (he?) seems like any other poster so maybe I'm a bit outdated.

Removed my earlier content as there really is no need to critique her further for something that happened months ago.

To Stormpeaks: I'm sorry I called you a troll in the past. I honestly thought that was your intentions. While things can get heated and we don't often agree, it doesn't make you a troll. I am able to own up to something I said or my own behavior that was wrong, so I can say that.

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No hard feelings, glad you took a look at my latest discussions with people to see that you had the wrong idea at least to some extent, I am not the nicest poster on the forums, nor do I claim that lol, but my posts are actually not trolling, I have strong opinions and I defend them but I do think thats fair : p

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

No hard feelings, glad you took a look at my latest discussions with people to see that you had the wrong idea at least to some extent, I am not the nicest poster on the forums, nor do I claim that lol, but my posts are actually not trolling, I have strong opinions and I defend them but I do think thats fair : p

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It's on me as well. I can be very stubborn and takes quite a bit to change my mind once it's set - but I was being overly dismissive of what you were actually saying. It's easy when someone (in this case me) is doing that to get irritated. I am glad I understand you more now and sorry again for unfairly judging you for too long.

I was guilty of being pretty rude also in some of my responses to you.

You two are so cute!!!

https://media.tenor.com/VUrU4Vf6k1oA...ly-peanuts.gif

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

You two are so cute!!!

https://media.tenor.com/VUrU4Vf6k1oA...ly-peanuts.gif

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We'll probably disagree on something soon lol.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

It's on me as well. I can be very stubborn and takes quite a bit to change my mind once it's set - but I was being overly dismissive of what you were actually saying. It's easy when someone (in this case me) is doing that to get irritated. I am glad I understand you more now and sorry again for unfairly judging you for too long.

I was guilty of being pretty rude also in some of my responses to you.

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You're all good, it was both ways anyway I wasnt any better so let's just forget about that part and move on lol

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

You two are so cute!!!

https://media.tenor.com/VUrU4Vf6k1oA...ly-peanuts.gif

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dont push it lmao

Is it? Or are you trying to score some brownie points?