Lost my Large house in Empyreum. Super, SUPER bummed...

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Originally Posted by Troxbark

Oh then you don't need a vanity in-game house.

Get your priorities straight, ezpz.

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I mean if you're going to talk about priorities, then be honest. This game would be dead because even bothering to log in and play this game shouldn't be anywhere on most people's priority list, including yours.

I'm sorry you lost your house, it's an annoying and devastating thing to have happen, especially due to IRL issues. I understand having a house is a "vanity item" but if you had issues IRL preventing you from logging in and still lost it, then I understand how annoying and sad it can feel, especially if the house was something that made you feel happy in the game.

But as others have said, you could use this opportunity to not have to worry about keeping a sub up and logging in if you want to take a break. If you feel really bummed out, then you can always try to take a break or try a different game or another hobby. These things could help you cheer up.

I hope that eventually you can get another plot and rebuild your house, or maybe even make it different if you wanted to. :)

Please understand and look forward.

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Originally Posted by CNitsah

I'm baffled... I hope this is trolling. (excuse me if it is, but I've seen so much people with that mentality on the forum - not to this point though - that I'm not sure anymore

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No, they're the worst breed of troll, strawmanning what they perceive as shills, so that the streak of negativity stays alive on here.

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Originally Posted by Pratini

Well there is a lesson in that.

Next time actually use your house.

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That could have been said in less snarky fashion...
I too have to remind myself to enter my house too from time to time. Actually I have marked these visitations on my calendar so I will do them at least every 30 days. I like my yard and garden the best. Those are the parts on the plot where I put more thought to make them feel nice to be around. +MB and bell are nearby, and generally the house's location as teleport destination is convenient for me.

Hang in there OP. It sucks, but I'm sure everything turns out alright.

I'm very sorry to hear that, it does sound like you did genuinely love your house. But sadly, you just didn't enter it. You need to enter it.

What people struggle to understand I think, is that yoshi didnt design housing with the idea in mind that most of you wouldnt actually be using it. He designed it with the idea that these would be bustling areas, lively with FCs and people hanging out all around, and cute neighborly dynamics. Instead though, the majority just claim a house and then never go to it, leaving wards completely empty of anybody-you're LUCKY if you see even like..3 members of one FC hanging outside in one. Which is for a multitude of reasons (no certain npcs, no server travel thingy, etc) but even so, a lot of you have adopted this mindset of.. "Well, I'll just visit it once a month to walk in to keep it". I don't know how else to say it but to say it-that was not his vision, I dont think lol. Think the timer is with the idea that..you're probably in your house so often that 1 time in a month is nothing. but for a lot of you, that one time a month is everything-it's the soul reason you have that house. When it wasnt supposed to be.

Your case is a little more understandable because you were actually moving irl. but at the same time...that was just one time in an entire month to log in. It gives you an in-game warning too as well. If you have a house, always check your /timers. Always always always. Ideally, you should be in your house often enough that you shouldnt need to, but if you're going to be doing something for a long time IRL, FOCUS on /TIMERS. THAT is where your attention should be. Check it. Don't rely on "I thought I walked in". Because every single one of these posts amount to that. "I thought I walked in". Well, CHECK to make sure. The means ARE in your hands to be sure.

I lost an FC house once this way. Yeah it's my fault but it I was still bummed. I had max level subs and stuff and all of it was just gone.

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Originally Posted by Denji

i have 0 sympathy for people who never use their house or at the very least check in on it literally once a month.

you're depriving other people from having one. the system's garbage enough as it is, yeah, i get you but uhhh if you're not using it then i will actively cheer when i hear about situations like this.

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Cheering over this situation that is OP is having a hard time irl and due to that lost his house. I see you and some others chose to roleplay as garbage today. How nice of you. When life is hard having your little virtual home can be a comfort and escape. I guess a bit of empathy is beyond you.

As usual there is always spiteful ppl ready to kick when someone is down. Let's hope when something bums you out people don't treat you the same way.

Imagine how many players feel bummed logging in every day, having played this game for years without ever owning a personal mansion. 8 years and still looking, in my case. All the while some people who are lucky enough to own one don't even enter theirs for a whole month and a half. Hopefully the winner out of those 130 bids is an active player who doesn't have to set reminders to keep their mansion.

There's something good about it too. You can now join the Balmongians self-pity group in the Housing Forum, wallowing in self-pity and memories of lost lotteries.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Imagine how many players feel bummed logging in every day, having played this game for years without ever owning a personal mansion. 8 years and still looking, in my case. All the while some people who are lucky enough to own one don't even enter theirs for a whole month and a half. Hopefully the winner out of those 130 bids is an active player who doesn't have to set reminders to keep their mansion.

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I hate to say it, but with this system, I'm more relieved than bummed to not have a house. And this is coming from someone who started saving gil since day one for the chance to buy a house.

Thank the Twelve I can just settle for an apartment that I can neglect as much as I want. Obtaining and keeping a house in the game sounds like a hassle.

My heart does go out to those who are trying to get one or who lose one, though.

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Originally Posted by Elkanah

People still use rocketmail too. And netzero email. I'm not sure how they've lasted this long past the dinosaur age.

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Honestly surprised. According to google 225 million people still use yahoo.

On topic: It sucks but you can reclaim your stuff at a npc at least. Sounds like you need time to sort yourself irl though so take it as a good opportunity to do so. No obligations to login and do stuff. It can be a positive if you let it be.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Imagine how many players feel bummed logging in every day, having played this game for years without ever owning a personal mansion. 8 years and still looking, in my case. All the while some people who are lucky enough to own one don't even enter theirs for a whole month and a half. Hopefully the winner out of those 130 bids is an active player who doesn't have to set reminders to keep their mansion.

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My friend, when you finally get your house, whatever size it is, you'll have a honeymoon period of maybe 2 months after you finish decorating before you go back to idling between roulettes in a much more convenient and populated place like a capital.

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have bee 45 days. I've literally only been gone less than 4 weeks, and distinctly remember logging into my house just before my move, and I *think* I'd even ran around my house just after the move.

I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days. It's actually impossible.

There's obviously nothing that can be done now, someone else has won the plot. But I would probably say, I do think the devs may want to double-check how their "timer" works, because clearly something wasn't working as intended. Maybe because I wasn't "interacting" with anything in my house, just running around it. I spent way more time *around* my house (outside), and since there's no notification on log-in to *enter* your house, I guess I just forgot to actually *enter* my house.

To be honest, I do kind of wonder why they don't just let people keep their houses merely for staying subbed. I'm honestly probably going to quit, and it's directly over losing the house. It's not a *lot* of money, but that's still one sub they're probably going to lose.

Either way, definitely still really down about it. I poured so much time and effort into getting the gil and buying all the items, and I just really *loved* my house. Especially the dedicated "Holiday" theme, I'd honestly thought about trying to decorate it for each of the major holidays (mainly Halloween and Christmas), and it definitely brought some amount of joy, just logging in and admiring my place, or seeing the journal comments from others who liked the place, too.

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Originally Posted by Terin

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have bee 45 days. I've literally only been gone less than 4 weeks, and distinctly remember logging into my house just before my move, and I *think* I'd even ran around my house just after the move.

I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days. It's actually impossible.

There's obviously nothing that can be done now, someone else has won the plot. But I would probably say, I do think the devs may want to double-check how their "timer" works, because clearly something wasn't working as intended. Maybe because I wasn't "interacting" with anything in my house, just running around it. I spent way more time *around* my house (outside), and since there's no notification on log-in to *enter* your house, I guess I just forgot to actually *enter* my house.

To be honest, I do kind of wonder why they don't just let people keep their houses merely for staying subbed. I'm honestly probably going to quit, and it's directly over losing the house. It's not a *lot* of money, but that's still one sub they're probably going to lose.

Either way, definitely still really down about it. I poured so much time and effort into getting the gil and buying all the items, and I just really *loved* my house. Especially the dedicated "Holiday" theme, I'd honestly thought about trying to decorate it for each of the major holidays (mainly Halloween and Christmas), and it definitely brought some amount of joy, just logging in and admiring my place, or seeing the journal comments from others who liked the place, too.

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Auto demo doesnt go off before 45 days, never has, never will. Now you're just finding excuses.

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Originally Posted by Terin

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have bee 45 days. I've literally only been gone less than 4 weeks, and distinctly remember logging into my house just before my move, and I *think* I'd even ran around my house just after the move.

I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days. It's actually impossible.

There's obviously nothing that can be done now, someone else has won the plot. But I would probably say, I do think the devs may want to double-check how their "timer" works, because clearly something wasn't working as intended. Maybe because I wasn't "interacting" with anything in my house, just running around it. I spent way more time *around* my house (outside), and since there's no notification on log-in to *enter* your house, I guess I just forgot to actually *enter* my house.

To be honest, I do kind of wonder why they don't just let people keep their houses merely for staying subbed. I'm honestly probably going to quit, and it's directly over losing the house. It's not a *lot* of money, but that's still one sub they're probably going to lose.

Either way, definitely still really down about it. I poured so much time and effort into getting the gil and buying all the items, and I just really *loved* my house. Especially the dedicated "Holiday" theme, I'd honestly thought about trying to decorate it for each of the major holidays (mainly Halloween and Christmas), and it definitely brought some amount of joy, just logging in and admiring my place, or seeing the journal comments from others who liked the place, too.

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I had a friend quit over a medium. Never saw him back. It does suck losing one.

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Originally Posted by Terin

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have bee 45 days. I've literally only been gone less than 4 weeks, and distinctly remember logging into my house just before my move, and I *think* I'd even ran around my house just after the move.

I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days. It's actually impossible.

There's obviously nothing that can be done now, someone else has won the plot. But I would probably say, I do think the devs may want to double-check how their "timer" works, because clearly something wasn't working as intended. Maybe because I wasn't "interacting" with anything in my house, just running around it. I spent way more time *around* my house (outside), and since there's no notification on log-in to *enter* your house, I guess I just forgot to actually *enter* my house.

To be honest, I do kind of wonder why they don't just let people keep their houses merely for staying subbed. I'm honestly probably going to quit, and it's directly over losing the house. It's not a *lot* of money, but that's still one sub they're probably going to lose.

Either way, definitely still really down about it. I poured so much time and effort into getting the gil and buying all the items, and I just really *loved* my house. Especially the dedicated "Holiday" theme, I'd honestly thought about trying to decorate it for each of the major holidays (mainly Halloween and Christmas), and it definitely brought some amount of joy, just logging in and admiring my place, or seeing the journal comments from others who liked the place, too.

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1.) Auto-demo does not go off until 45 days. Full stop.
2.) If that one aspect of the game bothering you is enough for you to quit...maybe you SHOULD take a break for a while, for yourself. (That's not to bash, I did so myself a few years back when housing was all I was interested in and I lost a *SMALL* in Shiro (which was the new great area at the time) after having to get up at 2am to try and win the click war for it. Taking a break lets you go enjoy other things and maybe come back with a fresh pair of eyes (or, if not, find your next adventure).

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Originally Posted by Terin

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have bee 45 days. I've literally only been gone less than 4 weeks, and distinctly remember logging into my house just before my move, and I *think* I'd even ran around my house just after the move..

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I defended you before, and I'm sorry that happened to you, but this is bullshit, automatic timers don't miss. I'd trust them over your memory, sorry buddy.

Regardless, I agree with you that autodemo should not be a thing. But I guess they'd rather encourage new, wide-eyed players to try and get a vacated house, than let old souls who could unsub for any reason anyway keep theirs.

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Originally Posted by Celine_Aurora

My friend, when you finally get your house, whatever size it is, you'll have a honeymoon period of maybe 2 months after you finish decorating before you go back to idling between roulettes in a much more convenient and populated place like a capital.

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Are you speaking from experience? Sweetie, I bought my first house in 2015 and have never accidentally lost one to auto-demolition because I idle at my house and do my retainer business there every time I log in. You should do the same so you don't end up like OP did.

Can't wait for EU auto-demolition and the chance to finally claim a personal mansion that some inactive user forgot to enter.

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Originally Posted by Terin

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have bee 45 days. I've literally only been gone less than 4 weeks, and distinctly remember logging into my house just before my move, and I *think* I'd even ran around my house just after the move.

I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days. It's actually impossible.

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That's just pure copium my dude.

Sorry your lost house, but next time take better care of it.

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Originally Posted by Terin

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have bee 45 days. I've literally only been gone less than 4 weeks, and distinctly remember logging into my house just before my move, and I *think* I'd even ran around my house just after the move.

I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days. It's actually impossible.

There's obviously nothing that can be done now, someone else has won the plot. But I would probably say, I do think the devs may want to double-check how their "timer" works, because clearly something wasn't working as intended. Maybe because I wasn't "interacting" with anything in my house, just running around it. I spent way more time *around* my house (outside), and since there's no notification on log-in to *enter* your house, I guess I just forgot to actually *enter* my house.

To be honest, I do kind of wonder why they don't just let people keep their houses merely for staying subbed. I'm honestly probably going to quit, and it's directly over losing the house. It's not a *lot* of money, but that's still one sub they're probably going to lose.

Either way, definitely still really down about it. I poured so much time and effort into getting the gil and buying all the items, and I just really *loved* my house. Especially the dedicated "Holiday" theme, I'd honestly thought about trying to decorate it for each of the major holidays (mainly Halloween and Christmas), and it definitely brought some amount of joy, just logging in and admiring my place, or seeing the journal comments from others who liked the place, too.

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You want to fully quit the game because you lost the house? Thats extreme. I think you should take a long break but not because of the house but because you clearly need to. I took a break before so I lost a good house but I didn’t get this upset. Should they have held my house for me? No. I wasn’t using it.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Wow... Game creates housing, doesn't need to create reasons for players to use them.... where do I send you a game design award?

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FFXIV didn't create housing. It's been a concept in RPGs and MMORPGs for a long time. What FFXIV did is add it as game content.

What's been the point of player housing in RPGs? To give the player character a home they can customize and make use of through their imagination.

If that isn't reason enough, why buy a house in the first place? Why tell SE they need to create other reasons to own one? You could just skip it as content and focus on other things, much like I skip PvP.

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Originally Posted by Terin

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have bee 45 days. I've literally only been gone less than 4 weeks, and distinctly remember logging into my house just before my move, and I *think* I'd even ran around my house just after the move.

I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days. It's actually impossible.

There's obviously nothing that can be done now, someone else has won the plot. But I would probably say, I do think the devs may want to double-check how their "timer" works, because clearly something wasn't working as intended. Maybe because I wasn't "interacting" with anything in my house, just running around it. I spent way more time *around* my house (outside), and since there's no notification on log-in to *enter* your house, I guess I just forgot to actually *enter* my house.

To be honest, I do kind of wonder why they don't just let people keep their houses merely for staying subbed. I'm honestly probably going to quit, and it's directly over losing the house. It's not a *lot* of money, but that's still one sub they're probably going to lose.

Either way, definitely still really down about it. I poured so much time and effort into getting the gil and buying all the items, and I just really *loved* my house. Especially the dedicated "Holiday" theme, I'd honestly thought about trying to decorate it for each of the major holidays (mainly Halloween and Christmas), and it definitely brought some amount of joy, just logging in and admiring my place, or seeing the journal comments from others who liked the place, too.

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But what do you mean by "logging into your house"? Do you mean log into the game while at your house or do you mean entering your house?

Being outside of your house but within the plot borders doesn't reset the demolition timer. You have to enter it to reset the timer.

They don't let people keep their houses simply by being subbed because there are other players who are likewise subbed that would like a house but can't get one on their home world. They want the wards to appear active and populated (even though that's rarely going to happen in practice) so that means getting houses into the hands of players that will use them, not those who buy a house then ignore it.

If you're going to quit over losing the house, then you weren't enjoying the game any way. It sound like losing the house was in your personal best interest. There are other games with housing that you don't have to worry about losing. You might want to look into the Sims 4, which is focused around housing and socialization instead of a house being minor side content.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

FFXIV didn't create housing. It's been a concept in RPGs and MMORPGs for a long time. What FFXIV did is add it as game content.

What's been the point of player housing in RPGs? To give the player character a home they can customize and make use of through their imagination.

If that isn't reason enough, why buy a house in the first place? Why tell SE they need to create other reasons to own one? You could just skip it as content and focus on other things, much like I skip PvP.

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No, I have a mansion and its ridiculous we have a piece of furniture a ton of players use, some daily, that can't be placed in a house. A house that has an entire industry of furniture revolving around it and yet it doesn't have the option to be equipped with what is arguably the most important furniture piece of all. And if this were available more people would step into their houses more often.

There's no need to defend SE at every turn. Yoshi P isn't going to call you and thank personally for defending them against feedback in the forums. I think hearing what players don't like or would like added is the reason they created the forums to begin with.

What good are you doing exactly to anyone by saying it's their fault and they need to find reasons because the game shouldn't make any? The take is beyond useless.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

What's been the point of player housing in RPGs? To give the player character a home they can customize and make use of through their imagination.

If that isn't reason enough, why buy a house in the first place? Why tell SE they need to create other reasons to own one? You could just skip it as content and focus on other things, much like I skip PvP.

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PvP is a niche. It's neglected content. You cannot possibly relate this to housing.
Housing which is a highly desirable commodity and is very much NOT neglected. SE creates all the reason for players to want to have housing. You can tell that by just how many housing items are on the marketboard and all those furniture design competitions and all those people who design houses and show them off. Hell there's a whole sub community around housing design itself. This game, which centers itself around characterisation, has made a house a limited resource. Housing which is arguably a very large part of a player's characterisation experience. If this wasn't true we wouldn't be having this argument.

Imagine if SE put out the much desirable long hair with actual non-plank board physics. Anyone can buy one. Here's the kicker: it's limited in supply.
A lot of people would not appreciate the "just skip it" sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

Tbh if you don't use your house for 45 days you don't need a house. Plain and simple.

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you right
let's start demo on those apartments and those fc rooms, free up some resources

We're here blaming each other for experiencing the symptoms of a broken system. YoshiP is too goddamn stubborn to budge on the housing situation out of "community", though if I had my pick at his brain he probably sees that it's just not worth the effort. The game is neither young nor has great infrastructure.

Why quit over a lost house? Theres so much other content to do

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Originally Posted by Terin

I suppose it's worth adding, while I wasn't playing as actively as I should have, there's honestly no way it could have been 45 days.
I mean, it could have totally been like 3 weeks (and to be fair, I actually thought that *was* the auto-demo timer), but definitely not 45 days.
I do think the devs may want to double-check how their "timer" works, because clearly something wasn't working as intended.
Maybe because I was just running around it. I spent way more time *around* my house (outside), and since there's no notification on log-in to *enter* your house, I guess I just forgot to actually *enter* my house.
To be honest, I do kind of wonder why they don't just let people keep their houses merely for staying subbed.

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1. You lost track of time. 45 days had passed, it just did not feel like 45 days to you.
2. It worked perfectly as intended. Your house was demolished because it was not used for over a month.
3. Yes, you have to go inside your house, otherwise you will lose it. This is well known. Standing outside does not count.
4. They don't do this because then all houses would be taken and no one would ever have any hope of getting a house outside of new wards.

Some of you get a house and then immediately forget what it's like to want a house lol.
People go from 'ugh all the houses are full, id do anything for a chance to get one' to 'why on earth should MY house be taken just because i dont use it??'
Which, again. Not entirely the same case with you. Again, I do understand that you were busy and moving irl and that you did love your house. So that makes this quite sad, really. but the facts are unfortunately, you did not enter your house within that 45 days. It's the one rule they give you. It's the one rule they give home owners that some just can't help but break anyway and then come here and tell us how outraged they are.

I get the feeling with demolition on and working now after what-almost 2 years of having it off or something??, that we're going to see a lot more of these posts pretty often now. People who were so used to never having to care suddenly being caught and insisting something else must have gone wrong. Nothing went wrong. You didnt go in, and you didn't check your /timers to make sure you were safe. I'm sorry to hear about it. Please remind your friends to check their /timers to avoid the same fate.

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Originally Posted by VirusOnline

you right
let's start demo on those apartments and those fc rooms, free up some resources

We're here blaming each other for experiencing the symptoms of a broken system. YoshiP is too goddamn stubborn to budge on the housing situation out of "community", though if I had my pick at his brain he probably sees that it's just not worth the effort. The game is neither young nor has great infrastructure.

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A house is not an apartment or fc room. I think that much you know hopefully.

I see tons of houses which lay barren after being bought for months. Some put just a chair in it. Some lose them cause they can't be bothered to look into the house or take care of it for like one day in one and a half months.

So it's only fair that the house gets torn down and the plot sold to another player, heck they even give you part of your money back for that and your furniture and send you a warning email. All stuff they don't have to do.

Maybe the next person will appreciate the plot and house more.

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Originally Posted by VirusOnline

PvP is a niche. It's neglected content. You cannot possibly relate this to housing.
Housing which is a highly desirable commodity and is very much NOT neglected. SE creates all the reason for players to want to have housing. You can tell that by just how many housing items are on the marketboard and all those furniture design competitions and all those people who design houses and show them off. Hell there's a whole sub community around housing design itself. This game, which centers itself around characterisation, has made a house a limited resource. Housing which is arguably a very large part of a player's characterisation experience. If this wasn't true we wouldn't be having this argument.

Imagine if SE put out the much desirable long hair with actual non-plank board physics. Anyone can buy one. Here's the kicker: it's limited in supply.
A lot of people would not appreciate the "just skip it" sentiment.




you right
let's start demo on those apartments and those fc rooms, free up some resources

We're here blaming each other for experiencing the symptoms of a broken system. YoshiP is too goddamn stubborn to budge on the housing situation out of "community", though if I had my pick at his brain he probably sees that it's just not worth the effort. The game is neither young nor has great infrastructure.

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I dont agree with fc rooms as there is no reason to as anyone in a fc can get one but apartments I think wouldn’t be a bad idea to start demolishing. There is probably people who quit 10 years ago with one.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Are you speaking from experience? Sweetie, I bought my first house in 2015 and have never accidentally lost one to auto-demolition because I idle at my house and do my retainer business there every time I log in. You should do the same so you don't end up like OP did.

Can't wait for EU auto-demolition and the chance to finally claim a personal mansion that some inactive user forgot to enter.

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Of course I'm speaking from experience. Of all the people I know, only one idles at their hosue regularly - but that's because they have a mansion and like hosting a lot of people from their circle of friends, organizing events for us, even. Everyone else furnishes their house and then chooses a different hangout spot where they have actually people who they can interact with in /say. Might be their FC house, might be a bench in a capital.

Retainer business can be done at your house, or anywhere else. The problem is that anywhere else also offers services you will have to eventually leave not your house, but the whole residential quarter for. And if your house is in shirogane and Empyreum, you can't even use the aethernet to quickly get into a capital for stuff like GC turn-ins. The game just does nothing to make owning a personal house compelling from a gameplay standpoint; it's just a vanity item.

Edited to add: I think EU auto-demo is on now? I forgot, they keep going back and forth about it.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

No, I have a mansion and its ridiculous we have a piece of furniture a ton of players use, some daily, that can't be placed in a house. A house that has an entire industry of furniture revolving around it and yet it doesn't have the option to be equipped with what is arguably the most important furniture piece of all. And if this were available more people would step into their houses more often.

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I find my Goblet house quite useful and made it my base where I go whenever I am not in a duty. It’s cheap travel from anywhere, I have all the vendors I need, an fc chest, retainer bell, aesthetician, armoire and it’s just by a MB too (practicality was my main criteria when I bid). I switched my GC allegiance to that location so it’s a just a few gil to travel to Ul’dah to turn in gear to the GC which is right by the Aetheryte and has a dresser too.

My neighbors also use their houses regularly as I see them around.

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Originally Posted by Celine_Aurora

Of course I'm speaking from experience. Of all the people I know, only one idles at their house regularly - but that's because they have a mansion and like hosting a lot of people from their circle of friends, organizing events for us, even. Everyone else furnishes their house and then chooses a different hangout spot where they have actually people who they can interact with in /say. Might be their FC house, might be a bench in a capital.

Retainer business can be done at your house, or anywhere else. The problem is that anywhere else also offers services you will have to eventually leave not your house, but the whole residential quarter for. And if your hosue is in shirogane and Empyreum, you can't even use the aethernet to quickly get into a capital for stuff like GC turn-ins. The game just does nothing to make owning a personal house compelling from a gameplay standpoint; it's just a vanity item.

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Everyone plays in their own way. Your friends who are Limsa regulars don't represent all players and you really aren't in a position to tell me how I'm going to interact with housing when I currently have a personal house and had several in the past 7 years.

Housing has social, creative and vanity uses and while more interactive furnishings would be nice, housing doesn't need any more game play features than it already has. The people who don't have a reason for owning a house will eventually lose it and make room for someone who might use it more. Every time there is a thread like this, I know auto-demo fulfilled its purpose.

I'm just surprised the counter carries over from one plot to another. If I had bet on this I would have lost.

With how island sanctuary starting to allow you to add housing items to your island, I kinda neglected my large and "kinda" don't mind if it's gone...

Only outdoor items last time I checked and since outdoors doesn't have the same glitches available for designing the look it will still be more restricted than an actual house. Granted those glitches should ideally just be a normal placement feature anyway.

Lol @ all of the "auto-demolition is good, actually" takes in here. Yeeees, yeeeees, keep simping for the horrible housing system and its artificial scarcity. Someone taking a month off Saint FFXIV's treadmill to touch some grass should be punished I say, punished

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

Lol @ all of the "auto-demolition is good, actually" takes in here. Yeeees, yeeeees, keep simping for the horrible housing system and its artificial scarcity.

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There's a difference between "the system is good" and "given that we have this system, auto-demolition is a good aspect of it".

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

Lol @ all of the "auto-demolition is good, actually" takes in here. Yeeees, yeeeees, keep simping for the horrible housing system and its artificial scarcity. Someone taking a month off Saint FFXIV's treadmill to touch some grass should be punished I say, punished

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But we actually have to if were going to be still having this system where plots are limited. So we have to care that some houses get demo'd to allow others who want one that opportunity.


This doesnt change that the current system is crap anyway. Nobody is trying to argue that this system is actually good. Please use your brain more my dude

You need to enter the house and interact with something inside it. Not just hang out. Summon a retainer. If you entered ran around inside for a bit and left it may not have counted. Sorry you lost the house, that sucks.

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Originally Posted by Mirikh

You need to enter the house and interact with something inside it. Not just hang out. Summon a retainer. If you entered ran around inside for a bit and left it may not have counted. Sorry you lost the house, that sucks.

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My dude looks like he jumped out of the Matrix

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

Do people never check their spam folder? Yahoo mail is also awful at sometimes putting legit e-mails and filtered messages into the spam folder.

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Imagine using yahoo mail in 2023 to begin with.

Maybe this will come off mean, but. I don't really have much sympathy for a house owner if they don't even use the house, it should be demoed and let go to someone who would use it.

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Originally Posted by Mirikh

You need to enter the house and interact with something inside it. Not just hang out. Summon a retainer. If you entered ran around inside for a bit and left it may not have counted. Sorry you lost the house, that sucks.

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This isn't true. You simply have to enter the house and the timer will reset. If you use your house, this will never be an issue.