The new abyssos armor is an eye sore

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Nothing is being betrayed. Naturally glowing armor pieces have existed since ARR.

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What ARR gear has even remotely the same animations with these? The weapons were the only gear besides eureka armor (and that is just a glow) and the caster contest winner head piece that had the animation since this armor series. At best we get maybe a faint tone or a glow on a piece like the lvl 50 tome head piece for tanks.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

Those are easy to ignore. Giant glowing hula hoops that float like 2 feet off the body, not so much.

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To be honest I have to really disagree with this. I find frogsuits much harder to ignore than some ring. And I also find them absolutely creepy and up to scary. So it's really personal.

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Originally Posted by Rilifane

Let people wear what they want?
We have people running around in frog suits, 2B bottoms and bikini tops, animal print thongs dyed metallic green - but a raid set having a glow you don't like is where you draw the line and want a toggle?

FFXIV doesn't have a specific aethstic identity, we had glowing armor before, we have animal suits, we have modern streetwear and a lot of other things.
"It's Final Fantasy, so everything goes" is always the reply when someone thinks something doesn't "fit" and it also applies here.

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No one has an issue with the armor. It’s the animation of the giant ring that is the problem. If you want to wear a thong into battle, be my guess, but the glaring giant ring that is 1 foot from the wearer is very noticeable.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

To be honest I have to really disagree with this. I find frogsuits much harder to ignore than some ring. And I also find them absolutely creepy and up to scary. So it's really personal.

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To you, maybe. I've never once heard a single comment about the frog suit, and people complain about the rings constantly.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

To be honest I have to really disagree with this. I find frogsuits much harder to ignore than some ring. And I also find them absolutely creepy and up to scary. So it's really personal.

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Quoted for emphasis.

I find neon-coloured thongs or metallic animal suits harder to ignore. It comes down to personal taste: something that bothers someone more will be harder to ignore for that person. Like the Medica II sound grates my ears amd I despise it but I know there are more obvious and obnoxious sounds that I don't notice as much or not at all because they don't bother me personally.

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

What ARR gear has even remotely the same animations with these? The weapons were the only gear besides eureka armor (and that is just a glow) and the caster contest winner head piece that had the animation since this armor series. At best we get maybe a faint tone or a glow on a piece like the lvl 50 tome head piece for tanks.

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The augmented cashmere healer robe is easily more annoying than the ring in my opinion. The glowing ring knows what it wants to be, the vague uninspired glow on the ARR pieces is just clutter. But this is what this boils down to: personal taste. Everyone claiming that this is some grand hill the identity of the game gets decided upon is looking for moral justification in a vain attempt to convince others that their taste is the correct one.

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

What ARR gear has even remotely the same animations with these? The weapons were the only gear besides eureka armor (and that is just a glow) and the caster contest winner head piece that had the animation since this armor series. At best we get maybe a faint tone or a glow on a piece like the lvl 50 tome head piece for tanks.

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The 'augmented' item level 90 gear from ARR on the marketboard is one of the only other pieces in the game that have actual vfx and not just some quirky emissive texture tricks like the Eurekan gear, so Saraide is technically correct that they've been around since ARR. But when there's literally only three sets with actual vfx in the game (including the newly introduced Abyssos ones) compared to hundreds upon hundreds without, it's pretty accurate to say vfx gear runs heavily counter to the gear design of FF14 as a whole.

Personally, I think the other Abyssos sets are fine. For me, the giant ring of the tank/maiming sets is the problem child due to how huge it is compared to the much more muted shoulder effects of the others. The ring also looks just bad when you're on the move, since its rigged to your character's back so any combat animations or walking/running animations swing it like 100 miles to the left or right.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

To you, maybe. I've never once heard a single comment about the frog suit, and people complain about the rings constantly.

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Tbf, people complain about stuff like the frog suit constantly as well. Typically in the context of immersion breaking.

Personally I actually kind of like the ring thing. I didn't get it myself cause I went for gearing my healer instead, but I've seen some pretty awesome glams with em.
I also kind of hope this is just the start of similar and more varied vfx'd glams.
Looking foward to see if the Savage gear or next alliance gear have a bit of a glow up.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Im sure there's a lot of people who were happy that then sfx armors can be easily obtained and not relegated to hard content

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Is it me or is that a backwards way of thinking? Harder content should reward more unique looking armor/trinkets compared to their easier counterparts, right? Eh, I am arguing against the wind though, lol.
*stares at the wind*
*a participation ribbon slaps me in the face during a gust*
*trade it in for a mount*

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

To you, maybe. I've never once heard a single comment about the frog suit, and people complain about the rings constantly.

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I'll take the armor with the ring over the frog suit any day. At least one of them is an actual high fantasy armor if a bit gaudy vs just a gag joke suit. Every time I do a trial or raid for the first time I pray I don't get one of those ppl in the custscene. I can generally rationalize even the most casual of glams but not those furry suits.

Thank goodness people aren't wearing them as much any more.

I like the armor. It's something different.

The Tank set is probably good for identifying where the Tank is in a fight too.

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Originally Posted by Rilifane

Let people wear what they want?
We have people running around in frog suits, 2B bottoms and bikini tops, animal print thongs dyed metallic green - but a raid set having a glow you don't like is where you draw the line and want a toggle?

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For me, it's not an issue of immersion, it's an issue of the spinning glow specifically.

I'm yet to actually have anyone in my party using it, but when I tried it on at the vendor it actually made me feel a bit nauseous just staring at it for a few seconds.

Again, maybe that's an exposure thing, maybe it's not so bad on other people, but I'm yet to find out and at this point I'm a bit wary of it.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

The augmented cashmere healer robe is easily more annoying than the ring in my opinion. The glowing ring knows what it wants to be, the vague uninspired glow on the ARR pieces is just clutter. But this is what this boils down to: personal taste. Everyone claiming that this is some grand hill the identity of the game gets decided upon is looking for moral justification in a vain attempt to convince others that their taste is the correct one.

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You got me on that armor. To be fair no one wears that armor and it’s extremely rare to see someone wear it. Prob because the actual armor is ugly and old. nonetheless, I find that armor less annoying because it is not a giant glowing ring on the back with red or purple hue color. It is a white color that is minimized on the armor set. To be really frank. I don’t have a problem with animations in the armor. It is just the ring.

Now everyone will die in 7 days because they all saw the Rings

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

Can we get a way to turn off the animations? While I have no issues with some of the sets, the giant rings are really obnoxious to look at. At first I thought it was cool, until everyone starting to have the animation on their back. Now it is every where and I am forced to see it on my screen, just like the dark knight ability back in heavensward, it’s an eye sore.

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I would have been happier if the animation sets were reserved for savage raiders. There would have been less around to look at and in the end would have probably gotten more people into the savage community.

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This is why we can't have nice things (armor)

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

Can we get a way to turn off the animations?

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Have you tried closing your eyes?

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Now everyone will die in 7 says because they all saw the Rings

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Ok but it wasn't on a VHS so we should be fine, right?

I would just like a toggle for personal effects on/off and player effects on/off. That way only mine will be visible and I can turn it off when I want, and other people can turn mine off while I can still enjoy my own.
It wasn't as bad for the ARR/PVP armor with a similar, perpetual motion effect but the ring is very big and I wonder how it looks in cutscenes come to think of it. Will it obscure characters standing behind you?

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

I like the armor. It's something different.

The Tank set is probably good for identifying where the Tank is in a fight too.

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I've had more people follow me, especially in P7, since I got the armour, but none of them follow quite far enough to dodge mechanics. I've even had a few healers follow me when I'm moving away with a tank buster just for them to go splat.

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Originally Posted by TheSuperior

I would just like a toggle for personal effects on/off and player effects on/off. That way only mine will be visible and I can turn it off when I want, and other people can turn mine off while I can still enjoy my own.
It wasn't as bad for the ARR/PVP armor with a similar, perpetual motion effect but the ring is very big and I wonder how it looks in cutscenes come to think of it. Will it obscure characters standing behind you?

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In cutscenes is does somewhat block what's on the other side of it, and change the hue of what you are looking at due to the flame ring "radiating", but it doesn't completely block.

if you don't like it then glamour something else over it, there's plenty of different looking gear in this game.

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Originally Posted by Listrella

if you don't like it then glamour something else over it, there's plenty of different looking gear in this game.

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The issue is pretty clearly that everyone and their mother that plays Tank or DRG/RPR is running around with a giant, obnoxious particle effect on their backs. Not that they necessarily like the look of the armor itself. Every weapon with a particle effect, to include ultimate weapons, have their "glow" turned off while sheathed, which trims down visual clutter significantly. The armor is a complete eyesore with how many people are using it. Ez fix would be to just toggle the armor particle on-unsheathe, but not sure if they can do that.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Is it me or is that a backwards way of thinking? Harder content should reward more unique looking armor/trinkets compared to their easier counterparts, right? Eh, I am arguing against the wind though, lol.
*stares at the wind*
*a participation ribbon slaps me in the face during a gust*
*trade it in for a mount*

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No, I also agree that this armor should have been only available in savage.

Yup, I see disco rings everywhere. I don't want this game to turn into GW2 where everyone looks like a Christmas tree.

Hiya all,

I have seen some of you that complain about those armor gear and I think it is reasonable one. It is like all the summoners summons there titans at once and block the view. So there would be an option to turn those effects off from others so you doesn't see them all at once on your screen. So that option would be great if it was there.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

Ok but it wasn't on a VHS so we should be fine, right?

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There were reports of people receiving mysterious phone calls after seeing players with the new raid gear and it was Edda saying "come back to PotD"

"With how many people have it" seems to be a key giveaway here. It's not that it's obnoxious, or lore breaking, or even not cool looking. It's that Savage raiders honestly thought with no evidence or confirmation from the devs that they would have particle effects on the savage gear and the normal version wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

"With how many people have it" seems to be a key giveaway here. It's not that it's obnoxious, or lore breaking, or even not cool looking. It's that Savage raiders honestly thought with no evidence or confirmation from the devs that they would have particle effects on the savage gear and the normal version wouldn't.

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In fairness, I thought that was a pretty safe bet myself. Like I've said before though, I'm not complaining. It was a nice surprise.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

"With how many people have it" seems to be a key giveaway here. It's not that it's obnoxious, or lore breaking, or even not cool looking. It's that Savage raiders honestly thought with no evidence or confirmation from the devs that they would have particle effects on the savage gear and the normal version wouldn't.

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You're reading something into people's statements that isn't necessarily there.

The number of people having access to it does also compound how much of the effect you have to see if you find it visually unpleasant.

Also, personally, I do find the armour (the actual armour, not the VFX) cool-looking and that's why I want a non-glowing version.

And here I am loving all of it lmao

Savage Raiders will be able to dye their gear. Even better if you can change the color of the flames. Plus Savage raiders get the weapons and those that don't raid won't so I dunno what the fuss is all about. Bunch of whining over nothing if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Erinellza

Yup, I see disco rings everywhere. I don't want this game to turn into GW2 where everyone looks like a Christmas tree.

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God, that's one thing I don't miss about GW2, and something I've been so happy about in FFXIV. People just stacked on the ugliest vfx they could find to a point where you couldn't even see their player model. I don't want that here.