The coming balance changes to jobs

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Blame Gordias Savage for this. It was the hardest raid in the game, the one where healer DPS became mandatory. If not for that, people wouldn't be raging about healer DPS, and healers wouldn't have gotten nerfed due to people wanting to make it "easier" to perform well at.

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Sad that it was too much of an ask to manage just two DoTs on WHM. WHM—you know, the easiest healer in the game. I’m not even talking about Cleric Stance dancing. Just simple DoT management. I’d give anything to have a second DoT with a different timer if it meant my rotation wasn’t DoT > nuke spell ad nauseam > DoT refresh > maybe I get to throw out a heal now in a semi-competent party.

The issue with things consistently becoming more and more easy is that it doesn’t teach improvement. If anything, with things constantly being changed and nerfed, it advocates the mentality of “cry loud enough about it and the devs will nerf it for us” versus “maybe I should practice juggling both Aero and Aero III. It can’t really be that difficult with practice, can it”. That argument was literally made about the current story mode trials in another thread. While not about job design, it’s still applicable to what has become of the healers since I started this game, in my opinion.



But putting all that aside and getting back on topic: the fact that WHM’s MP issues weren’t acknowledged at all in this patch truly astounds me. It needed to be acknowledged, and it just makes me wonder if the developers are out of touch with this concern, or simply don’t think it’s worth addressing. I really think they need to look into the complaints, and maybe add some sort of mana regeneration. Preferably at a pre-50 level because oh my God, the mana management on pre-Assize/pre-Lily WHM is terrible. It would benefit at level cap while providing early-level cushion when you don’t have resource-free healing available.

I guess at least Yoshida acknowledged that DNC’s personal damage was too low?

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

So no mention of healers whatsoever? Goes to show they don’t play their own game lmao.

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I would be with you there if this were some other game company, but our director here is a gamer like you and I (unlike the CEO dude..) and plays BLM. He's also a WoW enthusiast and has played that.

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Originally Posted by kejakalope

It's good to be the king.

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Won't be king anymore if others get buffed.

Buffs feel better than nerf and people get less upset about them, but I don't think they're always healthy for the game.
In Heavensward I remember MCH and BRD being buffed so much that it was better to go with two physical ranged over casters...
And the power creep makes content too easy at some point.

I think some Jobs atm need buffs while others ( like RPR ) needs a nerf.
You can achieve the same effect through buffs too but I dunno.

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Originally Posted by Quintessa

I would be with you there if this were some other game company, but our director here is a gamer like you and I (unlike the CEO dude..) and plays BLM. He's also a WoW enthusiast and has played that.

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I think that, while the developers may play the game, they don’t consider the way the playerbase plays it. Which is what will ultimately matter. It doesn’t matter if the devs had an “intended way to play” if the community plays in another way. You can kind of see this when the community comes up with a strat to handle X mechanic that either completely invalidates it (LB cheesing), or wasn’t at all how the developers wanted them to perform it (UwU’s Woke mechanic).

That said, they are also out of touch with a lot of gameplay aspects in this game. The most prominent being back in SB when they outright admitted they never balanced BRD and MCH with piercing in mind, and then we’re genuinely shocked when any physical ranged player who cared about their damage always wanted to be paired with a DRG. And that the physical ranged were so strong. That was some serious out of touch right there.

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Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas

All that I'll say is that everyone who plays the game should always be free to provide their feedback on how their job feels. You may agree with, you may not. The game designers should however always review said feedback.

This holds for all roles. Neither you nor I can or will know if Yoshi-P will make extensive changes to healing but we are free to ask for them as people who play the game.

By the way, instead of being so dismissive, perhaps if certain roles haven't been happy for quite a while, there could just be a valid reason in some cases?

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the majority of people unhappy with healing... is because they want to do MORE DPS. they dont want to queue as DPS, they want to queue as healers for faster times and only do DPS in dungeons.

so as a healer main, I cannot say there is a "valid reason" since my primary role is a healer, who can DPS on downtime. not as DPS who tosses out a heal or two if people complain about dying

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Originally Posted by Quintessa

I would be with you there if this were some other game company, but our director here is a gamer like you and I (unlike the CEO dude..) and plays BLM. He's also a WoW enthusiast and has played that.

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My point was they don’t play their own game as in the roles in that game. It’s very clear they don’t play healers, we know Yoshi plays blm and it’s the job getting constant qol and improvements every expansions. The bias is there and the lack of attention for other roles is there.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

the majority of people unhappy with healing... is because they want to do MORE DPS. they dont want to queue as DPS, they want to queue as healers for faster times and only do DPS in dungeons.

so as a healer main, I cannot say there is a "valid reason" since my primary role is a healer, who can DPS on downtime. not as DPS who tosses out a heal or two if people complain about dying

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You hardly do any healing is the problem though. 90% of healing is Ogcd’s. Which means your main gcd you are spamming is a one button dps. Healers hardly heal anymore especially when most of the dps and tanks have crazy heals and mitigations added this expansion. They then proceed to say that they’re going to make healers heal more this expansion but that literally isn’t the case. It’s still the same ole formula.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

My point was they don’t play their own game as in the roles in that game. It’s very clear they don’t play healers, we know Yoshi plays blm and it’s the job getting constant qol and improvements every expansions. The bias is there and the lack of attention for other roles is there.

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We don't really know that as a fact though, that's purely conjecture. I believe almost all the developers play the game, and I'm sure they play more then just a BLM since Yoshida does.

Do they still think trick attack is 10% or do they only really want ninja to die? TA only brings around 600 rdps, not 1200.

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sam, monk and blm are busy and need buffs

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Is this a joke?

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

So no mention of healers whatsoever? Goes to show they don’t play their own game lmao.

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Just because he is not giving the adjustment you want and labelling him not play his own game is getting old.
Everyone knew he plays Black Mage.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Just because he is not giving the adjustment you want and labelling him not play his own game is getting old.
Everyone knew he plays Black Mage.

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Does he play a healer? Nupe. As a developer you’d think you’d play a bit of everything to feel how it is and if it needs adjustments. Yet every expansion it’s always the same. Dps get the attention, tanks get a bit more but not much, and healers are in their own corner left sulking. They literally didn’t even address the biggest blatant problem which is whm mp so that’s pretty telling as you can notice it as a problem within 5 minutes of playing the job lmao.

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Originally Posted by Floortank

What makes you think number of oGCDs = hard? DRG has tons and tons of oGCD and is one of the easier Jobs.

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Lots of OGCDs means busy, not hard.
If someone says busy i'm assuming they mean they got lots of buttons to press.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Does he play a healer? Nupe. As a developer you’d think you’d play a bit of everything to feel how it is and if it needs adjustments. Yet every expansion it’s always the same. Dps get the attention, tanks get a bit more but not much, and healers are in their own corner left sulking. They literally didn’t even address the biggest blatant problem which is whm mp so that’s pretty telling as you can notice it as a problem within 5 minutes of playing the job lmao.

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I don't touch savage content, so maybe WHM MP is an actual concern there, but I have also seen people complaining about WHM in basic content (MSQ trials, basic roulette content, etc), and that's what is making it hard for me to take the MP complaint that seriously.

Yes, MP does seem to go down a little bit quicker these days, but it's still very manageable if you're using your kit properly.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I don't touch savage content, so maybe WHM MP is an actual concern there, but I have also seen people complaining about WHM in basic content (MSQ trials, basic roulette content, etc), and that's what is making it hard for me to take the MP complaint that seriously.

Yes, MP does seem to go down a little bit quicker these days, but it's still very manageable if you're using your kit properly.

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It's actually terrible at low level too, not just Savage. WHM doesn't get Assize and Thin Air until lv56+. Their GCD heals are the most expensive and they have the least number of oGCD's to supplement them, nor do they have Embrace or Kardia.

It's not that it's unmanageable, it's just that it's far worse than the other healers for no reason.

Love these kind of threads, they do tickle me. Such diverse and well informed opinions here

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

It's not that it's unmanageable, it's just that it's far worse than the other healers for no reason.

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Fair enough if that's the case. I haven't really compared it to the other jobs and was basing it more at face value for how it plays in normal content, at least in my experience.

Just give Thin Air a latent effect "Latent effect: "Becomes ShB version of Thin Air"" Latent effect trigger: X amount of ppl in party dead on the ground. OR give WHM a MP cost reduction effect on Temperance but less powerful then Thin Air's current effect.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

So no mention of healers whatsoever? Goes to show they don’t play their own game lmao.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Have you not seen whm mp issues? Lol

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This is a balance patch, not a gameplay patch. I'm guessing they do not yet see the MP issues you see. Is that issue widespread across the community or an individual player skill issue? I've yet to play my WHM this expansion, but I've run content with a few and have yet to see one run out of MP. If it becomes widespread it might show up in a later patch.

Trying to remember, don't they do more than one balance patch across the lifespan of an expansion?

I would hope so, and I would hope each such patch would be small - measured steps rather than major changes.

As for whether or not healers are happy - I'm guessing they judge this by different metrics than forums rants. People who are essentially happy don't tend to say much, so it's harder to gauge where they stand - but player activity is one way to do it.

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Originally Posted by OtakuSempai

I am so tired of people claiming they understand what a job needs and is when they don't even play it or even bothered leveling it, and we wonder why jobs are continually getting slower and simplified into the ground.

MNK is objectively a lot slower than SHB since they removed all but 1 of their ogcds and added them back as gcds. That's the rework in a nutshell, since the core rotation hasn't really changed since SHB. If you're going to claim removing ogcds make a job busier then you're just trolling or just plain wrong.

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You are the troll here.

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Originally Posted by Makeda

This is a balance patch, not a gameplay patch. I'm guessing they do not yet see the MP issues you see. Is that issue widespread across the community or an individual player skill issue? I've yet to play my WHM this expansion, but I've run content with a few and have yet to see one run out of MP. If it becomes widespread it might show up in a later patch.

Trying to remember, don't they do more than one balance patch across the lifespan of an expansion?

I would hope so, and I would hope each such patch would be small - measured steps rather than major changes.

As for whether or not healers are happy - I'm guessing they judge this by different metrics than forums rants. People who are essentially happy don't tend to say much, so it's harder to gauge where they stand - but player activity is one way to do it.

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Healers are literally the least played role though. Considering how quickly that became a reality despite the role getting a new job should be pretty telling on how the role is perceived as a whole. They do a couple balance patches but the first patch is in history supposed to be one of the biggest ones and it literally has nothing for healers. Neither does this next one coming up either apparently. They don’t even use these forums for input anymore according to their own words. They use social media the likes of twitter and reddit more. Also why are we bringing up gameplay/balance? Mp issue addressing is a part of balancing lmao.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Healers are literally the least played role though. Considering how quickly that became a reality despite the role getting a new job should be pretty telling on how the role is perceived as a whole. They do a couple balance patches but the first patch is in history supposed to be one of the biggest ones and it literally has nothing for healers. Neither does this next one coming up either apparently. They don’t even use these forums for input anymore according to their own words. They use social media the likes of twitter and reddit more. Also why are we bringing up gameplay/balance? Mp issue addressing is a part of balancing lmao.

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Curiously, how do you know healers are the least played role? I know for myself I used to always play both a healer and a tank, recently changing to DPS and a healer with tank as the back role for Endwalker. And please don't list something silly like Lucky Bancho as the metric, since last I checked they base it on weapon item level, and while many easily have 530 gear now at 80, even back in ShB people oddly were mostly Augmented Exarchic for the casual populace.

I know on Sage at least, no MP issues at all. Stuck to the same mantra I've had since ShB of popping Lucid at 7k. And SGE has "MP issues" if they don't want to "waste their Addersgall", yet never experienced it so far.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Healers are literally the least played role though. Considering how quickly that became a reality despite the role getting a new job should be pretty telling on how the role is perceived as a whole. They do a couple balance patches but the first patch is in history supposed to be one of the biggest ones and it literally has nothing for healers. Neither does this next one coming up either apparently. They don’t even use these forums for input anymore according to their own words. They use social media the likes of twitter and reddit more. Also why are we bringing up gameplay/balance? Mp issue addressing is a part of balancing lmao.

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Except there are more logged parses of white mage than nearly every job, rivalling reaper. So much for being the least played job.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I don't touch savage content, so maybe WHM MP is an actual concern there, but I have also seen people complaining about WHM in basic content (MSQ trials, basic roulette content, etc), and that's what is making it hard for me to take the MP complaint that seriously.

Yes, MP does seem to go down a little bit quicker these days, but it's still very manageable if you're using your kit properly.

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I’ve been in dungeons with WHM, done some trials on it myself, and done the old Alliance raids. Keeping up with your ABC is manageable with very proactive Lucid management—but Raising outside of Thin Air, or being forced to GCD heal with anything other than Rapture is immensely costly. And it makes recovering incredibly difficult for the supposed “pure, burst healer” in this game. SGE is fairly punishing when you die on it, because you lose any stored stacks, and you already don’t have many burst heal options on the GCD. But I’ve found recovering with it far easier due to things like Rhizomata to grant me an Addersgall stack just to blow on healing myself and getting some mana back to hold me over until Lucid comes off cooldown.

Compare that to WHM: if you die, you can’t use Thin Air anymore to grant yourself a few seconds to recover the mana you’ve lost. You lose your lilies, so you have to hope you have Tetra or Bene to top yourself if your cohealer doesn’t help you out there. WHM doesn’t have that much recovery from a death now, in my opinion. And it also cannot carry a bad Alliance in an Alliance raid with anywhere near the reliability it could in SB or ShB.

And as Liam said, pre-Assize/Thin Air content is even worse because all you have are your costly GCD spells. I may not be the greatest WHM, but I’ve played it enough to know that, before now, I wasn’t going OOM just from casting a couple Medica IIs when people eat crap in World of Darkness (or when those gods forsaken meteor towers explode…). And I won’t touch Cure III with a 50-foot pole at its 1500 MP per cast when I’m standing there with 50-60% after a raise and here comes a raidwide. Pre-50 MP was never that great, but it was far more manageable pre-EW than it is now.

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

Except there are more logged parses of white mage than nearly every job, rivalling reaper. So much for being the least played job.

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To be fair, they said least played ROLE. Not job. They’re talking about healers in general.

WHM has high uploads because of its ease of play versus the other healers and its usual counterpart AST. AST is, by comparison, very busy; WHM is very simple and a little braindead in terms of play. It’s also chosen for early Savage because it’s a very good prog healer due to raw potency and previous god-tier mana economy. I don’t know how it manages in Week 1 Savage right now, but my cohealer opted for AST strictly due to AST’s near-bottomless mana pool being very appealing for early progression. And, quite frankly, AST has just as good of healing as WHM.

WHM having high uploads isn’t anything new. And just because it has them doesn’t mean it doesn’t have issues that should be addressed.

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Originally Posted by Komarimono

Curiously, how do you know healers are the least played role? I know for myself I used to always play both a healer and a tank, recently changing to DPS and a healer with tank as the back role for Endwalker. And please don't list something silly like Lucky Bancho as the metric, since last I checked they base it on weapon item level, and while many easily have 530 gear now at 80, even back in ShB people oddly were mostly Augmented Exarchic for the casual populace.

I know on Sage at least, no MP issues at all. Stuck to the same mantra I've had since ShB of popping Lucid at 7k. And SGE has "MP issues" if they don't want to "waste their Addersgall", yet never experienced it so far.

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Mp issues are a whm thing. When at all did i mention sage?

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Mp issues are a whm thing. When at all did i mention sage?

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And the question asked? . . .

Many healers are saying they have MP issues if look at role forums, I listed SGE's example.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Mp issues are a whm thing. When at all did i mention sage?

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

Except there are more logged parses of white mage than nearly every job, rivalling reaper. So much for being the least played job.

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Is there a reading problem going on here? When did i say whm was the least played job. I said healers are the least played role.As for how i know, outside of parse uploads, just look at the constant "healer in need" for roulettes for some basic understanding of it.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Does he play a healer? Nupe. As a developer you’d think you’d play a bit of everything to feel how it is and if it needs adjustments. Yet every expansion it’s always the same. Dps get the attention, tanks get a bit more but not much, and healers are in their own corner left sulking. They literally didn’t even address the biggest blatant problem which is whm mp so that’s pretty telling as you can notice it as a problem within 5 minutes of playing the job lmao.

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You are just nitpicking.
you won't find a game producer going to play every job creates, there is team of internal testers they hired (surprise? something Blizzard stop doing it) for that.
All he need to do is actually playing a job and understand what is current going on in the game, that is already makes him far better game prodcuer

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Originally Posted by Komarimono

And the question asked? . . .

Many healers are saying they have MP issues if look at role forums, I listed SGE's example.

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SGE is MP positive—although its mana does drain faster versus SCH or AST, since both have other sources of mana regen in Energy Drain and Draw where as SGE doesn’t if you don’t use your Addersgall for it. However, proper play to maintain mana is to blow an Addersgall stack on a random party member for mana if you won’t need it for healing. It can be a bit taxing to chain raise on SGE, but manageable.

WHM, by comparison, is crying if it has to chain raise and doesn’t have Thin Air available.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Mmmm delicious that Reaper privilege. It won't be nerfed. Others will be buffed.

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Why nerf down and not buff up? That is a mistake Blizzard and other devs make all the time.

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Originally Posted by Komarimono

And the question asked? . . .

Many healers are saying they have MP issues if look at role forums, I listed SGE's example.

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whm and sge's issues are different though.

Sage is kinda forced into using addersgall even if it doesn't want to because its tied to its mp management, depending on the content that you run that can very much mean you only press heals to regen mana which is weird to say the least. it does however not have any mp issues under normal circumstances, if anything the only way to get mp issues as sage would be downtimes because those encourage you to put up eukrasian diagnosis on up to 3 players to recover addersting stacks but those also aren't necessary as long as your movement in general is on point. so all in all sages issues are mostly "keeping your mana topped sometimes feels bad and relatively short downtimes actually hurt your mana". aside from those factors sages mana is perfectly fine.

whm mana on the other hand literally runs dry if the fight drags on even while playing perfectly, and if you mess up even a little you are boned. theres also the point that square quite obviously expects you to use your lillies as a "mana tool", yet using them is a dps loss.

honestly whm issues aren't even hard to solve, make the lillies dps neutral (or even a very slight gain) and make them keep the lillies after death, nerf glare by 10 or whatever if that would make whm to strong and than up assize to 8% mana or so.
all in all its not even a question of "can whm get by with its given mana regeneration?" the fact of the matter is simply that every other healer has WAY better mana tools and that in itself is enough reason to buff whitemages mana regen, this by itself wouldn't raise its damage ceiling and also wouldn't raise its burst healing output so it would do literally nothing if everything runs as smooth as its supposed to, it would however help tremendously when it doesn't.

THEY ARE BUFFING PLD DPS HALLELUJAH.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

You are just nitpicking.
you won't find a game producer going to play every job creates, there is team of internal testers they hired (surprise? something Blizzard stop doing it) for that.
All he need to do is actually playing a job and understand what is current going on in the game, that is already makes him far better game prodcuer

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the same team that did not tell him that healers want to heal others and instead whm got lilybell that trigger when that same player only gets hit?
the same team that tested ast and did not tell that minor arcana is giving ast a button bloat for no reason?
the same team that tested sch and said it was fine when in fact sch had major issues with his skills all contradicting and even preventing usage of one another and major pet delay issues? the only thing ew fixed was pet responsiveness and nothing else.

i would say fire that team really ,none of them played healer even for 10s i doubt they even tested a healer in their QA runs otherwise i doubt we would have seen such big train wrecks and mismanage/out of context/copyPasted spells and abilities at healers and tanks, especially with tanks now being the new blue healer it seems.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

SGE is MP positive—although its mana does drain faster versus SCH or AST, since both have other sources of mana regen in Energy Drain and Draw where as SGE doesn’t if you don’t use your Addersgall for it. However, proper play to maintain mana is to blow an Addersgall stack on a random party member for mana if you won’t need it for healing. It can be a bit taxing to chain raise on SGE, but manageable.

WHM, by comparison, is crying if it has to chain raise and doesn’t have Thin Air available.

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Just a minor note, Energy Drain doesn't give MP anymore, so Aetherflow is SCH's only MP recovery tool outside of Lucid unlike AST's near limitless well of MP through Draw and Astrodyne.

true but its 2k instant every 60s which is pretty insane

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Originally Posted by CrimsonGunner

the same team that did not tell him that healers want to heal others and instead whm got lilybell that trigger when that same player only gets hit?
the same team that tested ast and did not tell that minor arcana is giving ast a button bloat for no reason?
the same team that tested sch and said it was fine when in fact sch had major issues with his skills all contradicting and even preventing usage of one another and major pet delay issues? the only thing ew fixed was pet responsiveness and nothing else.

i would say fire that team really ,none of them played healer even for 10s i doubt they even tested a healer in their QA runs otherwise i doubt we would have seen such big train wrecks and mismanage/out of context/copyPasted spells and abilities at healers and tanks, especially with tanks now being the new blue healer it seems.

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Don’t forget yoshi p going on record saying healers would be healing more this expansion and it remains to be seen. Currently at the end of P3S and haven’t noticed a difference from ShB.

Definitely, it's not bad at all, especially when compared to WHM. Which IMO should have MP regen attached to Thin Air.

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

Just a minor note, Energy Drain doesn't give MP anymore, so Aetherflow is SCH's only MP recovery tool outside of Lucid unlike AST's near limitless well of MP through Draw and Astrodyne.

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Forgot about that change. Apologies, I don’t play SCH that often. I’ll be the first to admit it’s my weakest of the four.

Be that as it may, though—SCH still can stagger MP regen every 30 seconds with proper timing with Lucid. Versus SGE really only has Lucid, so Addersgall dumping becomes a necessity at times when you aren’t actively using them for healing. As someone else mentioned, its MP “issues” are vastly different than WHM. Within the confines of just this thread, it was only WHM mana that has been brought up; so the SGE “complaint” was a bit out of left field and irrelevant to what was being discussed.

Back to WHM—It would be nice if the lilies offered mana regen. Would maybe make it a bit more worth it to use them. Or even two charges on Assize would be nice. Yeah, both would likely be blown during buff windows—but for the casual player, they can easily just hold on to a stack for some quick mana regen if they start running low. But perhaps lower level options would be better versus one locked to level 56+. Though, I’d also just take them reverting Thin Air to the way it was. Make it a bit more flexible since it was handy for more than just back to back raising.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Don’t forget yoshi p going on record saying healers would be healing more this expansion and it remains to be seen. Currently at the end of P3S and haven’t noticed a difference from ShB.

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its every time an expansion comes out it seems so nothing new there really.

whm mp issues and even the lily system i would say need to be looked at.

it was already clear whm will have mp issues identical to pre 50 level stage due to thin air changes, you didn't need to see the future when that change was revealed but doing nothing to prepare for it is pretty blind/lazy developing from the balance and job design team, not including the fact that ast beats whm in every healing advantage/non dps utility aspect known in ff14 right now.

saying the dev/balance/yoshi-p himself actually play the game can be considered fiction in this point of time cause tbh is shocking such unbalanced and undeveloped jobs/traits being released as expansion and actual balance/gameplay issues being ignored and not mentioned is actually done by devs and game producer that actually play their own game.

but i guess its all fine if blm plays well... oh wait he isn't doing enough damage for yoshi-p liking so lets meme him up again like in 5.0 and make him throw every caster and range to the banned list and maybe throw some melee as well in the mix.(sorry nin mains its probably a repeat of 5.0)

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

the majority of people unhappy with healing... is because they want to do MORE DPS. they dont want to queue as DPS, they want to queue as healers for faster times and only do DPS in dungeons.

so as a healer main, I cannot say there is a "valid reason" since my primary role is a healer, who can DPS on downtime. not as DPS who tosses out a heal or two if people complain about dying

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Interesting, I'm also a healer main, I have all healers at 90, yet I disagree with you. As a healer I try to heal only when necessary. In some groups, there can be issues, I need to heal more than I should have to, no problem.. I prefer to 'always be casting" and that means that I'm normally DPSing more than healing (ahem, unless I screw up, in which case, well , healer adjust ASAP)

Some of the issues that I've noted, whether its MP management, of button bloat, or (prior to EW) an unresponsive fairy, have nothing whatsoever to my wanting to be a wannabe DPS. I also want more that a single DPS spell, SGE has been more fun for me, that doesn't mean that I don't heal people.

All of this to say that I very surprised to hear that someone who mains a healer would think that all of the feedback from healers just comes from people who want to bypass DF queues or the infamous "only DPS" healer boogeyman.