What's next for new jobs after Endwalker.

Another "what jobs would be good to add", another moment for Chaz to espouse his love for Mystic Knight. Did I mention I like Mystic Knight? 'Cause I do.

I've been looking through what they've had in the past, and if you wanted to go fully into the past, a tank would be best, with their auto shell and having been a tank in the last MMO (Also I've had Bartz Solo enemies that were Otheewise too tough for the entire team with excessive useage of drain blade). But we have too many of those (sword wielding tanks, no opinion on tanks in general) so I'd rather a DPS. I envision it either with a whip sword cause that plus spell blade would make for some nice visuals, or the double ended sword that can split, so we can dual wield flare blade barrage as our limit break, but I'd be excited for anything.

People are disguisting, the only want 1 thing :

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As OP said, Scouting and a new Ranged Caster are the two that SHOULD be getting new classes.

For caster I want Geomancer big time. I'm a druid player of 17 years, and I'd like my class to FINALLY be implemented here in some form. Weapon should still be bell IMO, tho im certainly open to other ideas. I just love the animation ideas I get in my head for bell. Could be great. The idea that the geomancer would ACTUALLY use its current surroundings would never be a thing. The sheer amount of programming per area would be MASSIVE, literally its own game. I think it would just have tools that have to do with ALL areas, and have several in each element. Gotta remember that they are not gonna make ENTIRE MASSIVE system changes just for a single job, because that would be the only job being played because it would be so massive in design/scope. Lets keep ourselves grounded (pun intended!)

For scouting armor, I'd want something that combines some format of a magic system with a melee system, akin to NIN. Maybe a design opposite of RDM? Spends time in melee, switches to ranged for a bit, then goes back in. Thats kinda risky tho because the RDM displacement already gets them killed a lot. There might be a workaround there tho, not sure what exactly. Maybe like a reverse blink ability? But they'd have to design it to only let them fall back a safe distance, probably too hard to program that, but its a start. Rune Knight comes to mind, tho maybe something else.

As for the MANY MANY comments about Beastmaster, Yoshi has already confirmed Beastmaster for a limited job. The recent interview with Yoshi and Mastuno also 'basically' confirms this. It will VERY likely be a 6.X feature. Or it may be a 7.0 feature, as i'm fairly certain that 7.0 will focus on the clouded area in the center between Garlemald and Bozja/Ala Mhigo.

Thats my take/hopes. :)

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I like the idea of a "reverse" red mage. I do feel puppeteer could be that still, though. Using whip for melee, and then doing some ranged attacks with it as well as it withdraws, but using charges to send out mammets after the enemy. :P

For the sake of job role and gear balance, I also agree that the next two jobs should be a DPS caster and something that uses scouting gear.

Tank: Mystic Knight. Magic-oriented with offensive and defensive spells. Wields a mace.
Healer: Chemist. Uses abilities to add effects to spells. Wields a hand cannon.
Melee: Nightblade. Emphasizes debuffs and DoT. Wields a double-bladed sword and wears Scouting gear.
Phy. Ranged: Hunter. Marks targets for increased damage. Wields a crossbow.
Mag. Ranged: Puppetmaster. Focuses on unaspected offensive magic with some support. Wields an animated doll.

If you think about it isn't Ninja already the reverse Red Mage, in how it works even if not thematically and/or aesthetically

I've been thinking a good job concept and candidate for scouting gear would be a FF15-style Armiger user (Noctis's variety of floating weapons and warping around). That is based on FF15-specific lore, but they could call it the Royal or something, since those power are derived from the Lucis royal bloodline. Their source of power could be a signet ring like what Noctis gets later in the game that granted the ability to use insta-kill banish type spells. And well, when Noctis was travelling around on his bro roadtrip, that was "scouting" in the conventional sense of the word, no? Those unique gimmicks aside, the job would fill the spot of a melee DPS traditional swordsman (not Eastern themed like samurai, and not tank-based like paladin) like what many have wanted over the years, and comparable mobility and tricks to ninja.

Really hoping for Time Mage as caster DPS dot based. A bit like an affliction warlock in WoW basically.
You'd have skill to haste DoT tick rate (more like consume duration because you can't haste tick rate, but just for the flavor of things)
The special mechanic would be to set up echoes of yourself / your cast that would trigger later.
Would be fun to have a skill that rewinds it's state 10s earlier
We really need a non elemental caster. I love the rework of smn, but there's more than elemental magic

I'd also like to see the geomancer as next tank. On the other hand, there's no "elemental tank" atm (you can argue about war throwing a rock every 20s).
There are enough cool things you could do with rock water lava sand and whatnot both offensively and defensively for a tank

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Tank: Mystic Knight. Magic-oriented with offensive and defensive spells. Wields a mace.
Healer: Chemist. Uses abilities to add effects to spells. Wields a hand cannon.
Melee: Nightblade. Emphasizes debuffs and DoT. Wields a double-bladed sword and wears Scouting gear.
Phy. Ranged: Hunter. Marks targets for increased damage. Wields a crossbow.
Mag. Ranged: Puppetmaster. Focuses on unaspected offensive magic with some support. Wields an animated doll.

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Yes please to mystic knight and nightblade.

I honestly think they should skip new jobs and reevaluate the roles and progression kits

Due to the many expansions expanding the jobs some have some big growing pains (looking at you BRD and MNK) and others don’t evolve at all past a certain point (looking at you MCH) what I want is every job to be analyzed rather than even more being neglected (looking at you SCH/DRK) or having tacked on skills that don’t do anything for the kit (looking at you DNC) or just shallow “trait upgrades” or finishers (looking at you RDM, and most jobs in EW honestly) with EW I’ve noticed a trend of this which will get a lot worse if more jobs are added rather than improving what we have

If and when they feel comfortable adding new jobs (after/alongside any work they might need to do on existing jobs), I'm still praying for Chemist, especially after

that tease in 5.0 post-MSQ story.

People might use excuses to shoot my hope down, but I've already been right before about RDM and BLU despite that. And I still think they could use the Mudra tech from Ninja to pull Mix off.

I'm also really curious to see just about any of the really popular ones people hope get added, like Mystic Knight, Beastmaster, and Geomancer. (The latter especially after they removed the "geomancy" abilities from WHM despite the supposed refuting lore.)

I'd also love to see Pirate/Privateer. And we could probably use a use for those rifles Limsa has from 1.0, as well as something to let people finally play something pirate, especially since Rogue goes to Ninja and Marauder goes to Warrior, so they lose the pirate-ish theme leaving nothing with that feel at the Job level.

When you are done with 6.0 MSQ, go back to Garlemald, there is an NPC there (one of the main NPCs) who teases Chemist, again... :p

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When you are done with 6.0 MSQ, go back to Garlemald, there is an NPC there (one of the main NPCs) who teases Chemist, again... :p

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Wait, seriously?! o_o I'll need to check this.

As an idea for Geomancer, I'm imagining a caster that uses field effects. Similar to BRD stance dancing, they would lay down fairly wide reaching field effects that are basically long lasting DoTs (think old Flaming Arrow and Shadow Flare).

Then within that field, certain skills take on different effects. To avoid just stacking all your fields and calling it a day, the system would have to work in way that either the field is generated by the Geomancer, or there is a field limit restriction.

The fields don't have to be strictly elemental, like fire, wind, water, ect. They can be environmental, like magma, marsh, desert, tundra, storm, things like that. They could rotate through the fields building up a resource for stronger attacks. Alternatively, something similar to how Requiescat works, using a certain big skill would end the field. Good for if the mobs are about to die or the boss is about to jump.

Skies the limit here. I for one wouldn't mind jobs that were just blends in existing ones or thematically very close. I would like an assassin class, using katars. Combos like a monk, bursty like a sam, with ninja like movement abilities.
You could make two close classes play very differently lile a Ranger vs the "bard"
I would imagine the hardest part is weapon choice for many as that, unfortunately, is locked. Recoloring the books between sch and smn has already been rather disappointing.

I wouldn't mind if they also did more Gunbreaker classes. Distilling past characters into classes. We could get another thief style class out of Zidane with a double blade, a dps 2h sword by combining Auron and Cloud, or maybe some sort of gunner class using Barrett/Laguna/Balthier.

still quite a few ffxi jobs I'd love to see in the future.

Puppetmaster
Beastmaster
Corsair (physical redmage essentially letting it weave swordplay and gunplay)
Geomancer

You know, reading some of these replies and thinking about it…

In the last expansion, they set precedent for the creation of a job based loosely around the move sets of existing FF characters, instead of the job fantasy of classic jobs (Gunbreaker with Squall/Seifer).

In -this- expansion, they’re tinkering with rotation phases that actively transform the appearance and abilities of your character (Reaper).

What would y’all say to a Scouting job with a double-bladed (thief)sword that emphasizes the building and use of Dynamis as a means to enter a Trance phase, a la Zidane? Dunno what to call it though.

That aside, I love the idea of Geomancer as a support type caster dps (since there isn’t really one) that creates fields of influence that DoT, boost damage/direct/crit and/or bolster defense.

Despite the fact that the devs have said they’re kinda running out of ideas for classic jobs to use (or that they just want the chance to create something new) there’s actually a plethora of classic and more recent jobs they haven’t used yet, with a lot from the Ivalice series coming to mind. Geomancer, Cannoneer, Bishop, Mystic/Oracle, and Seer come to mind. I can imagine Cannoneer in particular as a kind of physical ranged DPS parallel to Black Mage, with a trade off of movement for pure power.

I also saw a suggestion somewhere earlier for a type of DPS involving transforming into monsters. There is actually a FF precedent for that! Morpher, an uninspiringly named Nu Mou job, could transform itself into basically any creature found in battle. I don’t think I’d be able to see that as anything other than a limited job though, because it’s basically a more complicated Blue Mage.

I’ve said this a lot but I’ve much prefer them take a break and reevaluate the jobs they currently have. As the more they add the more difficult they are to balance and means even more jobs will be ignored. If we had fewer jobs we could’ve had more reworks to old ones, or have the reworked ones have more thought put into them.

Also petty quip but I’m sick of them adding new jobs they half-ass, having them start late as hell in content far from new players reach, having very very few weapons to chose from and having crappy rushed job quests. Yea I don’t want lv80 jobs in 7.0 nor lv90 jobs in 8.0

i dont really know final fantasy classes that much but i feel like we need a rogue? the limsa rogue at the start has a very different style and lore then the far eastern ninja for personal lore reasons to like i cant see my character as a ninja but i can see him as a rogue type if that makes sense.

Tank - Viking/Berserker
Dual Axes, Hammer, for Viking would be cool. I don’t think the game has yet been heavy handed with Norse references or having NPCs named for Norse figures so this could work somewhere. Rune Fencer could be cool, but we have enough sword wielders, time for something different.

Healer - Green Mage
Clubs or Hammer. Barrier healer with abilities to undermine enemy attacks and create vulnerabilities. Green Mage, unlike other Healers who spam 1 Ranger attack spell, does a Melee Combo instead. A lot of people *still* want chemist, and honestly I look at Sage and the fact that we have Alchemist and say that’s fine enough. Potion Pitcher is cool in Ragnarok Online, but it’s not ideal here imho.

MDPS - Beastmaster
Whips and/or Monster Jugs.
I do not want limited jobs. [Bring BLU into the fold, ban Instant Death and Overworld cheese spells from queuing and make it the perfect all rounder.] However it could be a compromise for a monster to be captured and equipped in the sub weapon slot, I’d imagine something similar for PUP equipping the Mammet as the weapon.

RDPS - Ranger/Hunter
Crossbows (seriously we have bows and guns but completely skipped the crossbow, well Machinist does have it but it’s not the same…)
No, Bard nor its Archer class is a replacement for a straight up Ranger. Keep orientating Bard towards support. Give the scouting gear to Ranger. Honestly something like Vayne from League of Legends could be cool with a Tumble skill. Alternatively BST could be rolled into a Hunter style job.

CDPS - Geomancer
Bells
Easily the most obvious choice at this point. It would be a positional based caster that fights similar to melee DPS to hit flank, or sides, while also having effects for being in front of an enemy especially for solo. Compass Mage. Alternatively there is Necromancer, but I feel we are ready to finally get GEO.

Beastmaster in my humble opinion has already been confirmed through the current seasonal quest line. Primary weapon would be an auspice pet who would call beasts in and the NPC who would cover this would be none other than Godbert who owns the Gold Saucer and which would then include a Battle Arena as a new event square at the GS. I would ASK Yoshida-San to confirm or deny or will also accept if he decides to “Plead the Fifth” (yes American here, so will accept it). Based on how’d the opening quest plays, and past experience at Hell’s Lid in the Ruby Sea - hard for this to not be a huge hint to Beastmaster coming sometime in 6.x storyline. Looking forward to hearing or through a live letter, seeing Yoshida explain away this one as a mere happenstance.

As some people expressed, yes, I would say it would be good for them to work on polishing some of the more needing jobs, for sure. But the guesstimates I made were more so done on the basis of 1. What would be the next logical step in terms of roles, 2. What could fit well with the lore (puppetmaster being easily tied to mammets and a more tech savvy scenario like sharlayan/garlemald or even maybe eventually meracydia, and the whip portion just being my personal preference for it, really to make it fun and ranged with a bit of melee, and geomancer being already teased as well back in stormblood quite a bit, and being a good alternative caster.) Other than that, yeah, I'd think chemist could be an interesting next healer for later, and I actually feel mimic would be more fun and achievement-based than beastmaster, but I know people want to play pokemon in xiv badly, especially if island sanctuary is involved. LOL.

Overall, I'm trying to go less for wishful thinking with my picks, and more trying to feel what would actually throw in more diversity in gameplay and what would make sense lore-wise that we haven't seen yet.

I do agree with Oracle too as well since ying-yang magic would be interesting and thematically similar to Sage, but I would rather see chemist, to be honest. As for assassins, hunters, and the likes, I feel these jobs are a bit too obvious and won't add much to the game. I would however be curious to see something more piratey like cannoneers and such, I will say, since yeah, I felt a bit underwhelmed that rogues for instance go for a ninja route, despite understanding why.

If it were up to me I'd do something like this...

7.0 Jobs

Tank: Puppetmaster
I'd like to see a new tank with a different general vibe to the ones we're familiar with. The Puppetmaster's weapon of choice would be the puppet itself, rather than using it as a pet. With the animated puppet standing in front of the Puppetmaster, it creates the illusion of the puppet acting as a sort of bodyguard and would feature defensive abilities that have the puppet taking different stances to handle different types of damage. One unique--yet ambitious--concept for this job would be the ability to consume a portion of your current HP to place your puppet in the world as a temporary "pet" that takes your aggro. While in this state, you can run around freely while your melee weaponskills still eminate from the puppet, allowing you to position yourself without moving the boss or the trash enemies until you either recast the ability and heal for the puppet's remaining HP, or the puppet "breaks" and snaps back to you (returning all your aggro). To compensate, they'd need a bit of self-sustain, but you could also use this ability to eat a tankbuster for you.

I'd also consider having Krile become the NPC representative of this job and be a more prominent ally in the expansion, and it would be interesting to see her become a tank without drastically changing her aesthetic since she can wield her puppet with magic.

Caster DPS: Onmyoji
I think it's about time we see a fresh new caster enter the game, and while I'd really love to see Blue Mage ascend to an unlimited status with a refined skillset for balancing reasons, we've now gone the longest time without seeing a caster DPS, and I think we have room to try something unique like Reaper. The Omnyoji uses paper talismans as weapons and would pick up the pieces as a dedicated Damage over Time job. Now that SMN has abandoned DoTs, and Bard's future with them looking grim, building up a new concept of a job with the ability to own that identity would I think be a well-apperciated addition to the game, and this is an idea that I think would also capture a large visual diversity in style and weapons than to the other casters we have so far.

Beyond 7.0
Geomancer is a hot topic that's been name dropped back in Stormblood as a healer, and while I think there's room in the story to introduce a subset of Geomancers that are more offensive, I think taking advantage of the roots that we've already planted would be the better path to take. It feels like such a long time to wait for Geomancer, but we're likely not going to be getting another healer next expansion, and I can only hope we avoid another double DPS expansion just so that we can reach Geomancer within the next decade. Let's not forget that we may one day hit a point where new jobs aren't getting added, or perhaps only one will. I just hope we have room for another tank and healer or two before then.

Still waiting on them rifles to be used. They're in limsa, haukke manor, and a few other locations.

Obvious beastmaster is obvious, though perhaps a revamp of the companion system would be nicer. Allow the player to tame and/or breed a Pugil, change its colors, maybe attach armor to it, raise it, teach it new abilities, etc, and fight alongside it. Give the companions better AI, have them step out of AoEs (or do the WoW thing and give pets a 90% damage reduction for incoming AoE damage). That way the player can have their pet but can also play the class they want.

With Conjurer's earthy themed spells having been replaced by generic holy priest themed spells, we are now in need of a new earthy elemental themed class.

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Caster DPS: Onmyoji
I think it's about time we see a fresh new caster enter the game, and while I'd really love to see Blue Mage ascend to an unlimited status with a refined skillset for balancing reasons, we've now gone the longest time without seeing a caster DPS, and I think we have room to try something unique like Reaper. The Omnyoji uses paper talismans as weapons and would pick up the pieces as a dedicated Damage over Time job. Now that SMN has abandoned DoTs, and Bard's future with them looking grim, building up a new concept of a job with the ability to own that identity would I think be a well-apperciated addition to the game, and this is an idea that I think would also capture a large visual diversity in style and weapons than to the other casters we have so far.

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This taurus fellow has some good ideas.

If they're going the smallaxe/sheild combo for BST if the Bozja content is anything to go by, then maybe it's not too far-fetched for a whip ranged DPS job.

I recall an ill-fated PS2/3 Castlevania game where the whip would stretch out quite a distance, and perhaps the whip user could use sub weapons like Holy Water, throwing axes, and some items to support the party. So it is a bit Castlevania inspired, but it would be cool.

Since is kind of given that the next 2 jobs are going to be DPSers... I'd say:

Caster - Geomancer
Weapon: 1h Hammer + bell
Armor category: Casting
Specialty: Damage over time from several sources.
Niche: Slightly below BLM in selfish damage, although it brings small party utility with a small +dmg% taken debuff.

Physical DPS - Gambler
Weapon: Whip
Armor category: Scouting
Specialty: medium range whip + ranged rotation moments with "Tricks and Stunts" inspired by Setzer from FF6
Niche: Analogous to NIN, meant to fill the same role. Brings utility comparable to Trick Attack, but applied to the party instead of the enemy.

The real physical ranged DPS Beastmaster:

https://i.imgur.com/f2vpsmO.gif

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Beastmaster in my humble opinion has already been confirmed through the current seasonal quest line. Primary weapon would be an auspice pet who would call beasts in and the NPC who would cover this would be none other than Godbert who owns the Gold Saucer and which would then include a Battle Arena as a new event square at the GS. I would ASK Yoshida-San to confirm or deny or will also accept if he decides to “Plead the Fifth” (yes American here, so will accept it). Based on how’d the opening quest plays, and past experience at Hell’s Lid in the Ruby Sea - hard for this to not be a huge hint to Beastmaster coming sometime in 6.x storyline. Looking forward to hearing or through a live letter, seeing Yoshida explain away this one as a mere happenstance.

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I could definitely see us getting a Beastmaster class. That said, if we do I suspect it'll be a limited class. They made it pretty clear they find pet based classes rough to do with the game's engine, which is part of why Summoner and scholar had their pet elements slowly stripped away until Summoner's were completely removed and Scholar's were limited in EW. I don't think they'd do all that then turn around and have another pet job as a "true" class. And also making it a limited class opens up more room for you to go around recruiting random monsters to fight with. They wouldn't have an element like that for a "true" class since that would be harder to balance, unless the pet was purely cosmetic (which I know would make some feel like what's the point).

Personally, I still want a Mystic Knight class. Honestly, I thought EW would have been the perfect opportunity for it, since the classic Mystic Knight/Minwu aesthetic would fit perfectly with Thavnair, but we got Reaper instead. Don't get me wrong, I like Reaper, but Mystic Knight is like my one hold out class that I really want. And I could have seen it being a maiming class. Though maybe it could be a casting class instead.

I wonder if they'll start experimenting with what roles mean exactly. I still sorta think that Dancer should have gotten scouting gear. Same primary stats as aiming, but the scouting aesthetic makes much more sense for DNC than Aiming's generally long coats.

Personally I am hoping we still receive multiple jobs released for the 7.0 expansion (2 as they have been doing), but I could see us receiving only one new job due to the exponential development load that adding any additional jobs to our current job list must create for balancing for a new expansion release. I am rooting for Corsair and Time Mage specifically, and here's why:

Corsair as Melee DPS - Now that Dragoon has a buddy for its Maiming gear with Reaper, "obviously" we cannot leave Ninja all alone with their Scouting gear!! To make a 6th melee would then perfectly balance the DPS roles across melee and ranged (6 melee, 6 ranged (ignoring Blue Mage cause it's limited)). And after all the experiences in Limsa Lominsa and the Merlwyb hype we've had all throughout the MSQ and other quest lines, we're due an awesome pirate-aesthetic job (that doesn't then just turn into Ninja at level 30). Perhaps the best weapon(s) for this job could be a "blade and barrel(pistol)" combo, and leave it open-ended so it could include cutlasses, daggers, scimitars, etc. and pistols, blunderbusses, etc. Abilities could range aesthetically with bombs, grapples (for movement?), gadgets, poisons, even "grog" as a self buff, perhaps? The pistol and potential bomb and gadget abilities would mirror well the ranged abilities that Ninja has from its ninjutsus. And of course, it would have a vulnerability debuff for enemies similar to Ninja as well.

Time Mage as Magical Ranged DPS (as many in this thread have mentioned, YAY) - I think we also are due a new caster DPS, since we haven't seen a new caster DPS since Red Mage released in Stormblood, which by 7.0, will be three expansions prior! In previous Final Fantasy titles, Time Mage has held a supportive role, and I could see arguments for it to be either a DPS or a healer. However, as several so far have discussed, I think with the job changes that occurred in 6.0, completely removing DOT damage abilities from Summoner and minimizing the importance of DOT damage on Bard, we are now missing a token DOT damage job identity from our DPS job lineup. What better way to aesthetically use "damage over time" than with the use of time magic? And yes, I know there has been some "time magic" in Astrologian's kit, but much of it has been removed bit by bit since its initial release in 3.0, hasn't it? How very convenient, one might say. This job's weapon(s) could be a floating crystal "ball" or foci, or even a single wand with particular flourishes for casting (though I could see how this may conflict with certain existing White Mage and Black Mage weapons from ARR). Perhaps one of the job's signature abilities could be an "Inflict the Past" style ability, where, similar to Machinist's Wildfire, some amount of damage is compiled over an X second duration and then applied, based on however many Weaponskills are activated while the ability is active, except that it is affected by the entire party's applied Weaponskills during the active window.

Notable other potential jobs that I would not feel Too Terrible to see in place of these jobs that I've seen mentioned in this thread are Geomancer, Chemist, - especially Rune Fencer or Mystic Knight (Listen, I want this so badly too, I do, but my heart belongs to pirates and time magic first). And like some have commented already, I thought they would keep holding onto Beastmaster and Puppetmaster for potential limited jobs in the future. Also, perhaps there's even better ideas fresh to the FF series, such as Reaper and Astrologian were. Guess we'll just have to wait and see! :)

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Personally, I still want a Mystic Knight class. Honestly, I thought EW would have been the perfect opportunity for it, since the classic Mystic Knight/Minwu aesthetic would fit perfectly with Thavnair, but we got Reaper instead. Don't get me wrong, I like Reaper, but Mystic Knight is like my one hold out class that I really want. And I could have seen it being a maiming class. Though maybe it could be a casting class instead.

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I'll be honest, I think I mentioned it in another thread but I feel the new Summoner, conceptually if not execution, would have made for a great Mystic Knight, on the topic of missed opportunities. Cast a spell/use an ability, enter a state with a specific playstyle, repeat a few times with different elements for different combat styles, etc... Just you know, Melee.

You know, if I'm being honest, I made a joke of this with Angelo Cannon, but I really wouldn't hate a physical ranged Beastmaster based on Rinoa. In Dissidia NT, half of her gameplay was magic-based, but I think her normal form both makes the concept of her pinwheel weapon work and also offers a really interesting concept with how you handle your pet.

Rather than thinking of your animal companion as a pet using in-game terminology, we could instead think of it like a resource that reacts to your actions rather than just acting on AI. I also think it would be cool if they took a FFX-2 kind of approach and offered us a few different animal companions as options. This could just be cosmetic so that we all don't have the same pet following us around, but maybe you actually do call them at different points in your rotation.

For anyone not familiar...
Rinoa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-qrbXF-fKM
FFX-2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfzQpGR0b70

I think this Heavensturn was the first time the game has shown Onmyoji as job and not in a negative light. So far we only see them as villains in Fates throughout Othard and Bozja. They are showing a lot of Far Eastern inspired magic having to do with divination/warding against spirits this expansion.

Has Heavensturn always been about Onmyoji warding against spirits or is this new?

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I think this Heavensturn was the first time the game has shown Onmyoji as job and not in a negative light. So far we only see them as villains in Fates throughout Othard and Bozja. They are showing a lot of Far Eastern inspired magic having to do with divination/warding against spirits this expansion.

Has Heavensturn always been about Onmyoji warding against spirits or is this new?

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completely new. Usually its about mashing rice and it comes alive or other shinanigans

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I think this Heavensturn was the first time the game has shown Onmyoji as job and not in a negative light. So far we only see them as villains in Fates throughout Othard and Bozja. They are showing a lot of Far Eastern inspired magic having to do with divination/warding against spirits this expansion.

Has Heavensturn always been about Onmyoji warding against spirits or is this new?

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It's nearly a given that the next jobs added are going to be dpsers, and one of them is certainly a caster, as that roster is pretty limited with the same 3 jobs for quite a while. And Onmyoji is def. a contender branded as Mystic. Maybe it could be a dpser focusing on dots for once, now that this aspect is nearly dead on all the other jobs.

If they would be fair with roster balance, it would be this Mystic and a new ranged physical.

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It's nearly a given that the next jobs added are going to be dpsers, and one of them is certainly a caster, as that roster is pretty limited with the same 3 jobs for quite a while. And Onmyoji is def. a contender branded as Mystic. Maybe it could be a dpser focusing on dots for once, now that this aspect is nearly dead on all the other jobs.

If they would be fair with roster balance, it would be this Mystic and a new ranged physical.

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I wouldn't be so confident as to say that the next jobs will both be DPS jobs at this point. This logic is based around the pattern we've established thus far over the last 3 expansions, but we haven't seen this pattern actually loop, therefore it may not be a pattern at all. It's certainly a possibility, but I would not say it's a given just yet. It's also possible that we may see 1 DPS and 1 Tank and establish DPS/Tank > DPS/Healer > etc. As a potential rhythm for the next few expansions, but there's also the possibility that we'll start only seeing 1 job sometime soon. The main aspect about this that I dread is the prospect that we might only see DPS jobs after crossing that threshold, and so I hope we continue getting 2 for at least a few more expansions.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

I wouldn't be so confident as to say that the next jobs will both be DPS jobs at this point. This logic is based around the pattern we've established thus far over the last 3 expansions, but we haven't seen this pattern actually loop, therefore it may not be a pattern at all. It's certainly a possibility, but I would not say it's a given just yet. It's also possible that we may see 1 DPS and 1 Tank and establish DPS/Tank > DPS/Healer > etc. As a potential rhythm for the next few expansions, but there's also the possibility that we'll start only seeing 1 job sometime soon. The main aspect about this that I dread is the prospect that we might only see DPS jobs after crossing that threshold, and so I hope we continue getting 2 for at least a few more expansions.

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That is the main reason why I think we will never get only one job per expansion.
They already said that they want to release at least 1 DPS in each expansion, because this is the role that attracts the most players.
And new jobs are of course one of the main source of advertisement for the expansions...so I doubt they would release an expansion without a new job, except maybe if they do a complete combat overall, which is unlikely at this point in my opinion.
Also, with the game aiming for another 10 years, it means 5 more expansions, and there is no way we go through 5 expansions without new healers/tanks.
With that, it means, theoretically, we would get 10 more jobs, for a total of 29. Which is a decent number, when compared to the main competitor, which has 12 classes, each with about 3 different specs.

I want a magic based pet class, that focused more on the creature for damage, unlike pre endwalker summoner

That is a straight my main if they ever release that