Did Astrid Get the Most Votes on Every Server?

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Originally Posted by Sairys

That said, Astrids advice does seem in-line with behaviours of someone I've worked with... he's spend a lot of time in meetings with HR.

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Hah. To be fair good workplace romance does exist, and it isn't as rare as some people make it out to be. Apparently its also more accepted and frequent in Japan. The fallout of them going sour is just a lot more noticable.

Overall, Astrids advice and outcome wasn't that bad. Best case scenario the man awakens to a whole new world of kinks...

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

The viera would have won hands down. Nobody plays roe and they're not cute/waifu enough. If they was, you would see a lot more around opposed to seeing cats,dragons and bunnies around with sprinkles of lala's and midlanders.

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I seem to always default on how said character is made honestly. But I'm picky it seems. I picked Bert cause he was the more lively of the bunch. Most viera I've seen have too big of lips so that's always a turn off :c They do have legs for days tho. so there's that. I'm shocked the playerbase is this upset over this event honestly. Tho to be fair, the Quest giver kindof barks at you if you pick Bert :c so she gets no love from me. I was happy with my choice until she barked under her tongue. :c

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

Honestly, I was open to voting for someone other than Astrid. But after reading the ideas for all three on how to help the guy's love life, hers was the best, in my mind. Not that it was a GOOD idea, mind - romancing your customers sounds like a pretty sketchy business model. Still better than Bert's idea (which is to take up a hobby, for someone whose free time is already extremely limited) or Rodrigault's (to isolate oneself from others completely).

So, she got my vote.

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I am not sure why people believe that Rodrigaults idea was to isolate him. Honestly our NPC had not even a clue at what he wants in life, he does not even know what he would like in someone else. It makes perfect sense that he would need to find out more about himself first before he can even think about dating someone else. Heck I am often told that you need to love yourself first, because if you cant even do that how would you love others? So in that way his advice would give him a better understanding on who he is, what he likes and what he wants in a relationship. After that he could have taken Berts advice and choose a hobby (which he would have found by knowing what he wants) and there he might have found a person he liked..but in the end just going out and doing something else other than work will probably give him a better chance.

Astrid advice means that he should hit on someone that he works with..which can end really bad..heck she even did not know that her choice was already taken thus making this bad for both sides..

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Originally Posted by Lersayil

Overall, Astrids advice and outcome wasn't that bad. Best case scenario the man awakens to a whole new world of kinks...

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Marcette tends to send her research assistants on borderline suicidal missions, so I worry about what kind of kinks his experience might awaken.

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Originally Posted by Alacran

All this Astrid salt and i'm over thinking...

"What's up Lisette, that time of the year again? What that, your sister is in a contest this year? Say no more, i'll help her out, we've been friends for awhile, so a little help is no problem at all. Besides, I can't say no to to a pretty elf girl, if it helps your sister, bonus."

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Not as Advertised!

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

Marcette tends to send her research assistants on borderline suicidal missions, so I worry about what kind of kinks his experience might awaken.

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The path to true perviness is paved with many dangers. On the flipside, I can think of at least 5 different kinks he could pick up from a Morbol encounter.

I didn't even ready any of the tekst.
Tried to actually, just found it boring so after the first 4 lines I just skipped trough it all.

I took blue because I wanted the blue outfit (yes I'm aware you can dye them).

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Originally Posted by TwiibieTwuu

So much HQ Salt just because Astrid won.

Personally Glad i voted for her. Rod came off as a bit of a snob, talks down at you after you picked someone who wasn't him. and Bert was a derp.

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I don't think people would be upset if Astrid won some servers and other candidates won on other servers. People are annoyed that Astrid won EVERY server. I'd have gladly jumped servers to complete the event to see the ending with the person I voted for and see how that turned out, but that option has been removed, now the only option I had was to watch Ywain end up with an abusive girlfriend.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

I don't think people would be upset if Astrid won some servers and other candidates won on other servers. People are annoyed that Astrid won EVERY server. I'd have gladly jumped servers to complete the event to see the ending with the person I voted for and see how that turned out, but that option has been removed, now the only option I had was to watch Ywain end up with an abusive girlfriend.

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https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Bert%27s_Big_Idea

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/R...27s_Revelation

To see the other endings.

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Originally Posted by Klareh

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Bert%27s_Big_Idea

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/R...27s_Revelation

To see the other endings.

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*read

additionally no where can you see the alternate decorative motifs for the other two options.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

I am not sure why people believe that Rodrigaults idea was to isolate him. Honestly our NPC had not even a clue at what he wants in life, he does not even know what he would like in someone else. It makes perfect sense that he would need to find out more about himself first before he can even think about dating someone else. Heck I am often told that you need to love yourself first, because if you cant even do that how would you love others? So in that way his advice would give him a better understanding on who he is, what he likes and what he wants in a relationship. After that he could have taken Berts advice and choose a hobby (which he would have found by knowing what he wants) and there he might have found a person he liked..but in the end just going out and doing something else other than work will probably give him a better chance.

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He did have a handle on what he wants in life, just not what kind of person he would want to be with. What he lacked is experience, not finding himself.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

additionally no where can you see the alternate decorative motifs for the other two options.

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I assume it would have just been the same things tinted yellow/blue where they're currently red.

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Originally Posted by ryouma17

its just an ingame event with no permanent lasting effects on the game not sure why everyones getting their panties in a twist over which character won just pick the one you like the most and move on with your life

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If that was the case, by your line of thinking, then why have any event at all? Why have any choices?

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Why have any choices?

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I wonder if SE is asking themselves the same thing right about now.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

He did have a handle on what he wants in life, just not what kind of person he would want to be with. What he lacked is experience, not finding himself.

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Not really, what you want in life includes the sort of person/people you'd like to share it with.
He hadn't found that in his normal daily life so it makes more sense to explore, spend some time learning more about yourself, trying out new hobbies, meeting new people, etc.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I assume it would have just been the same things tinted yellow/blue where they're currently red.

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Sure but we don't actually know and either way it would have been nice to see. Similar to how it would have been nice to actually get to see the other plans play out rather than just reading them.

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Originally Posted by Sairys

Not really, what you want in life includes the sort of person/people you'd like to share it with.
He hadn't found that in his normal daily life so it makes more sense to explore, spend some time learning more about yourself, trying out new hobbies, meeting new people, etc.

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But he already knew about himself. It was the only thing he actually had an answer for. Astrid is the only one who considered who he was (a person focused on his duty with little free time) and gave a proposal tailored to who he was.

And meeting people was what Astrid's proposal was about, and wasn't what Rodrigault's proposal was likely to get him.

Unfortunately, all three proposals were decent, but the execution of all three were extremely flawed as well. The developers probably took this event less seriously than a lot of the players did.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

He did have a handle on what he wants in life, just not what kind of person he would want to be with. What he lacked is experience, not finding himself.

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They did ask him quite a few questions about himself and he was not able to answer even one of them. Also to know what kind of person you want to be with, you have to know what you want yourself. Do you want children? Do you want someone that share your view or is it fine if they dont. Do you have a moral compass and how would that influence your relationship? Knowing yourself is the first step to even know what you are looking for.

If he is a workaholic and has barely any time for a relationship then he needs a person that can accept it. Would he be willing to change his life for someone else? All of that can imo only be truly found by knowing what you want in your life. And after that you can take up a hobby and maybe meet someone there. Or meet the person that knows your future partner.

Astrid just wanted him to hit on anyone who might not be to dependend on him. This can turn bad fast..and at the end the partner she had for him was already in a relationship herself, making that situation really awkward.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

If he is a workaholic and has barely any time for a relationship then he needs a person that can accept it.

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tbf, this seems like the reason why he's having issues in the first place. His entire life is his work even when he's not working, issues around relationships are why that sort of thing is considered bad heh.

In all honesty, it doesn't seem that odd to me that Astrid won, considering the people who didn't vote for her had a split vote between the two others--and since she's cute and had the Valentine's colour gear, the amount of people who did vote for her isn't surprising at all--despite her advice being terrible. Personally I picked the cute yellow boy because yellow is my favourite colour (yes I know the gear is dyeable but still), he was adorable, and I liked his advice best. I knew he wouldn't win but it was whatever to me

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Originally Posted by Yencat

I wonder if SE is asking themselves the same thing right about now.

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Their takeaway from the event should be that any future voting system needs to be tweaked to not be so unfairly stacked in favour of one candidate. Personally I think the winner should have only affected the decorations and the Warrior of Light should have been able to go through with the quest chain associated with their chosen candidate. That'd be a fair compromise.

Additionally, we should have had the option to flirt with Ywain ourselves if we wished to. Being complimented in such a way by the saviour of the world would have done wonders for the guy's confidence even if he wasn't interested in returning the feelings.

Reading some of the responses here, it sounds like some players are reaching for reasons why their preferred pick didn't win.

I personally voted for Astrid, so did my husband, because we came to the same conclusion: hers made the most sense.

• Rodrigalt suggests take time to know yourself. NPC says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Rodrigault disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Bert suggests a change of profession. NPC, again, says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Bert disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Astrid suggests finding someone within the same profession (unlike some people's posts, I did not read to hit on employers or co-workers, as that is equally terrible advise in real life, but at least it did not go against the known details of the NPC).

Imagine going to school for a career you love, but it takes up most of your time. You love your work and you know it. It gives you fulfillment. You still want to find a companion and seek advise. Adviser tells you to quit your job and do something else. That's terrible advice, especially with how evanescent relationships can be. Even fictional, I wouldn't give that kind of counselling to anyone.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Their takeaway from the event should be that any future voting system needs to be tweaked to not be so unfairly stacked in favour of one candidate. Personally I think the winner should have only affected the decorations and the Warrior of Light should have been able to go through with the quest chain associated with their chosen candidate. That'd be a fair compromise.

Additionally, we should have had the option to flirt with Ywain ourselves if we wished to. Being complimented in such a way by the saviour of the world would have done wonders for the guy's confidence even if he wasn't interested in returning the feelings.

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I don't know how they would do that though, people had already decided they would vote for Astrid when the event was announced and before even seeing the quest or her advice. If they'd put her up against say, Khloe and T'Kebbe, I doubt Astrid would have even gotten any votes. Even though I don't really care for any of these characters there will always be a cuter one.

I don't know about our character flirting with Ywain, that feels a little condescending (and apparently he stank too) but I would have liked to see the quest play out with the one I picked so I agree.

In the end it's just a cute little event so I doubt they expected this much response to it, maybe they'll take it into consideration for the future.

Not gonna lie. If a five minute quest has everyone up in arms just because a elf girl won, I hope i can vote for her next year.

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Originally Posted by TwiibieTwuu

Not gonna lie. If a five minute quest has everyone up in arms just because a elf girl won, I hope i can vote for her next year.

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I voted for her with my many alts.. Guess I helped skew the election.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Reading some of the responses here, it sounds like some players are reaching for reasons why their preferred pick didn't win.

I personally voted for Astrid, so did my husband, because we came to the same conclusion: hers made the most sense.

• Rodrigalt suggests take time to know yourself. NPC says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Rodrigault disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Bert suggests a change of profession. NPC, again, says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Bert disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Astrid suggests finding someone within the same profession (unlike some people's posts, I did not read to hit on employers or co-workers, as that is equally terrible advise in real life, but at least it did not go against the known details of the NPC).

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Feel like you might want to re-read the quest text lol, Astrid suggested he try to find someone among his client list, i.e the people that pay him. We saw how well that went down when he actually followed her advice and continuing could have cost him that job he loves so much if he gets a bad rep among those clients.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Imagine going to school for a career you love, but it takes up most of your time. You love your work and you know it. It gives you fulfillment. You still want to find a companion and seek advise. Adviser tells you to quit your job and do something else. That's terrible advice, especially with how evanescent relationships can be. Even fictional, I wouldn't give that kind of counselling to anyone.

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This is also kinda a misreading issue, Bert and Rodrigalt's suggestions aren't to quit his job, they're that he needs work-life balance. Which is what any decent counsellor would advise if you told them that your entire waking life is dedicated to your job and you have no space for anything else in your life lol.

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Originally Posted by Sairys

Feel like you might want to re-read the quest text lol, Astrid suggested he try to find someone among his client list, i.e the people that pay him. We saw how well that went down when he actually followed her advice and continuing could have cost him that job he loves so much if he gets a bad rep among those clients.



This is also kinda a misreading issue, Bert and Rodrigalt's suggestions aren't to quit his job, they're that he needs work-life balance. Which is what any decent counsellor would advise if you told them that your entire waking life is dedicated to your job and you have no space for anything else in your life lol.

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The completed quest log doesn't give the dialogues, only an overview of the quests. If you've found them, though, I'd love a posting of them to re-read them, especially since my husband and I both didn't pick up on that if it's true. Yes, Rodrigault's overall advise is work-life balance, but then suggests doing it in a way that the NPC already said he had little to none of (taking time to figure out what he wants). Again, try telling someone that in reality - a job has demands and if you're unwilling to make sacrifices for it, especially for one you love, often times, you'll see yourself lose said job. It's still absolutely terrible advise.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Reading some of the responses here, it sounds like some players are reaching for reasons why their preferred pick didn't win.

I personally voted for Astrid, so did my husband, because we came to the same conclusion: hers made the most sense.

• Rodrigalt suggests take time to know yourself. NPC says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Rodrigault disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Bert suggests a change of profession. NPC, again, says they don't have much in the way of free time and loves their work greatly. Bert disregards the NPC's lifestyle/choice.
• Astrid suggests finding someone within the same profession (unlike some people's posts, I did not read to hit on employers or co-workers, as that is equally terrible advise in real life, but at least it did not go against the known details of the NPC).

Imagine going to school for a career you love, but it takes up most of your time. You love your work and you know it. It gives you fulfillment. You still want to find a companion and seek advise. Adviser tells you to quit your job and do something else. That's terrible advice, especially with how evanescent relationships can be. Even fictional, I wouldn't give that kind of counselling to anyone.

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Astrid gives him what he wants.
Bert and Rodriguez what he needs.

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Originally Posted by hasana

Astrid gives him what he wants.
Bert and Rodriguez what he needs.

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I don't see it. Leaving your job and pursuing a hobby or career that you might not even be good with, let alone sustain yourself with, doesn't sound like a need to me. It sounds like a gamble and for something that may not even work out.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

I don't see it. Leaving your job and pursuing a hobby or career that you might not even be good with, let alone sustain yourself with, doesn't sound like a need to me. It sounds like a gamble and for something that may not even work out.

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Since when does picking up a hobby mean you had to quit your job? I know plenty of employed gamers....

They should've put Aymeric and Hien instead of unknown guys. Things would look different.

I was so indecisive that I ended up just casting 3 different votes on my 3 characters, each picking the one that best matched their own personality.

Sooo I effectively abstained from voting XD

But I am still a little disappointed that it was so one-sided across the globe because that means 2/3 of the content created for this event's second phase has gone to waste. I wish there was still a way we could see the alternative cutscenes via The Unending Journey or something.

Helluuuuuuuu

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

The completed quest log doesn't give the dialogues, only an overview of the quests. If you've found them, though, I'd love a posting of them to re-read them, especially since my husband and I both didn't pick up on that if it's true. Yes, Rodrigault's overall advise is work-life balance, but then suggests doing it in a way that the NPC already said he had little to none of (taking time to figure out what he wants). Again, try telling someone that in reality - a job has demands and if you're unwilling to make sacrifices for it, especially for one you love, often times, you'll see yourself lose said job. It's still absolutely terrible advise.

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Here you go: https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/O...r_and_Argument
You can find the links to each of the "vote" quests in the "unlocks" section on that page as well, and each of those quests is linked to the three potential "outcome" quests thanks to datamining.


I think what you're pointing out as an issue with the guys suggestions is actually what other people are picking up on why Ywain is having issues in the first place?
His comments indicate his entire life is just like... wake up > work > training for work > sleep > repeat
There's no space for anything else, he's having issues forming a relationship, that's a sign his current lifestyle is having a negative effect on him.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

I don't see it. Leaving your job and pursuing a hobby or career that you might not even be good with, let alone sustain yourself with, doesn't sound like a need to me. It sounds like a gamble and for something that may not even work out.

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Why do you believe they want him to quit his job? Thats was nowhere in any dialogue. No they want him to focus on something else other than his job. Not just being a workaholic because often that does not get you love. They want to have him either find himself and thus know what he wants or take up a hobby that have him meet people.