I've kinda stopped questioning people being horny on main. It's just something that happens all the time at this point.
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I've kinda stopped questioning people being horny on main. It's just something that happens all the time at this point.
we ALL look at our characters. You don't need to be zoomed in to 10,000% on their ass. Some people just care about how their character looks, and there's nothing wrong with that. Not everyone who makes a character of the other gender wants to beat their meat to it. Hell, whats wrong with picking something that appealing? And that is different to many different people. I for example like midlanders, Elezens and miqo's. While you may like lalas, I can't play a lala but I'll never call you a pedo for playing one. Just food for thought.
Is it so wrong that I want to wave my buttcheeks at people (Thx Yorha Gear)?
LET THIS NUDIST BE FREE! FREEEEE!
To be real though, I dress my chr on a whim. Like uh, Warrior Wednesdays and Succubus Saturdays, if you catch mah drift.
WINK WINK
WINK
Ok I'll stop.
Well there goes any chance of anyone taking you seriously. You are obviously bothered by this given how you decided to go out of your way to create a topic on a public forum about it. It's a Fantasy game, people have differen't aesthetic tastes and like playing dress-up with their characters depending on said tastes. I'm not entirely sure why you keep bringing up ecchi anime into your incoherent rant. People have a variety of tastes, some people like dressing up in cool looking armor and others enjoy wearing bikini's and bathing suits. Can't we seriously leave the dead horse alone? It's been through enough.
It's hard to reply to this without sounding toxic, I'mma just say just cause some people do it doesn't mean everyone does. Sadly all it takes for something to be looked at as odd is one person. That one person ruins it for everyone else. So I'mma ask this to start a convo, cause funny enough this topic is close to me. As a guy who mains a female miqo, I ask you. Why is it odd there are guys who make female characters? I never self insert for many reasons. The biggest reason is there isn't a CC in the world that can make me look at it and saw. " I want to make me" And be able to actually do it. None of them are that good enough to make me want to do it. Two and this is the one that people blow smoke at but I don't know why... is I like looking at women. I'm not into men so by default when I get to a CC I instantly make a female. Not so much as to drool and whatnot.. but I want to look at something that I find appealing. I don't find men appealing in any shape or form so if I have the choice.. I never make them. I always found it odd that people never understood that.
So not trolling or being toxic, I'm generally want to ask you. Why do you think it's odd people DON'T pick their own gender? And why do you do it? Also putting this out there, I don't try to date online either.. as anyone old enough to know what comperserve is... - everyone online is a dude- so the whole " You're not being honest with your gender"- never hit me. I never cared honestly.
#aesthetic
That's really all there is to it.
Because you can't try and hang on the "fantasy game" "fantasy setting" "I'm not trying to self insert cause with fantasy I can be anything I want to be" but then literally make a clone of any ol average irl white chick. The logic just isn't there.
It has nothing to do with "the other camp" (as I'm opposite of the camp you're thinking of) it's just pure ol common sense.
But that's their argument that "I don't want to look at male butt all day" during any type of content you shouldn't be that zoomed in. Even when just afking around town, I personally am not that zoomed in to where my character's butt is center screen...it's weird.
I mean that would make sense if they weren't in bikinis and will only play female characters, at that point there's a bit more to it. Dudes that mix it up, have themes in mind, certain RP things etc aren't the type of dudes that's being discussed here. I used to know a few guys that would play nothing but female characters no matter the game, if it was a gender locked game and their class wasn't female they wouldn't play. These are the type of dudes I'm talking about.Quote:
Some people just care about how their character looks, and there's nothing wrong with that. Not everyone who makes a character of the other gender wants to beat their meat to it.
Trying to say people that play lalafells and dress them normally are the same as dudes that will only play female characters and put them in bikinis or use nude mods aren't even remotely the same.Quote:
I can't play a lala but I'll never call you a pedo for playing one. Just food for thought.
In the end, males that will only play female characters to play "sexy dress up barbie" are just weird imo and is why a lot of women just side eye dudes in general.
Most of my outfits are normal looking, but I do wear the Viera RSE on my DNC and gatherers. I guess for me it’s because it’s fun to wear something you would never dare to in the real world.
Male who only plays female characters reporting for duty o7. All jokes aside, Not every guy plays female characters because they are horndogs 24/7. I just happen to like female cosmetics more and how they look in them, they appeal to my tastes. Are we not allowed to enjoy having our character be pleasing to the eyes because there are a certain small demographic of players out there that can't handle people playing a character gender that they aren't in real life? For as often as this topic comes up and will continue coming up, I'll never understand why people are bothered by this.
First, i dont care if the horse is dead, alive or its making the new Bojack Horseman season. If you dont like to see some kind of topics or you find them repetitive you can just not enter or leave. Easy, right?
Second, thank you for clarifying that there are people with different tastes. The topic is about what they think or what brings them to those who dress their female characters in a certain way. Again, if you don't like it, close on the way out. I don't need any more forum cops to tell me that a topic has been repeated or blablablabla.
And to finish, being a Japanese game with oriental aesthetics it's obvious that it's going to bring mostly weebs. That's why some dress the characters as their favorite pillow. I think it's easy to understand.
In my own topic I say that I myself have created female characters. So I can't find it bad or weird, what I do find strange is that most players have that taste for half-naked or wearing characters that are tanks, for example, with miniskirts and bikinis.
But I say again that the topic is about knowing their points of view. I'm not judging who does it because I don't pay their monthly fee and I'm not interested in looking into other people's lives that deeply tho.
This just proves my point though as we all know female cosmetics are typically more "sexy" while male cosmetics are usually more practical or cool. No matter how many times people try to explain this is it just normally boils down to "I like staring at women because obvious reasons". I'm attracted to males, I don't really make male chars (I have on occasion) because I'm not animalistic (for lack of a better word) and I don't get excited by pixels.
I want to clear the lala point by saying that's pretty much what you just did. I know not every player playing a lala is a pedo, BUT there are people who fall into that group, just like there are men who fall into the group you're calling odd. I'm only saying not ALL of them do that. And was only making a point, also as a side, NOONE is playing what they actually are as lala's, miqos etc don't exist in real life at all. So by that logic.. we're all lying here.
You say it's odd.. WHY? Why is it odd people pick other genders to use in a video game. Even if its because they want to drool at their character... it's THEIR character. If they want to run around in bikinis who cares? I will never understand the judgement people have over others in areas where it doesn't matter what they do at all. The only thing we as players should be worried about as far as other people is.. their skill level. And that has NOTHING to do with what they are glammed or gendered too.
But that's actually not what I did at all and w both know that. There aren't groups of people that will only play lala in every game because lalas aren't in every game lol.
That's not really my point at all...nor a point I even made or implied.Quote:
Hell, whats wrong with picking something that appealing? And that is different to many different people. I for example like midlanders, Elezens and miqo's. While you may like lalas, I can't play a lala but I'll never call you a pedo for playing one. Just food for thought.
Because when you're that sex driven that you can't even play a simple game without that being at the forefront of your mind...how is that not weird? It's the same as dudes that talk about porns starts constantly and even make guild names after porn stars. Get help?Quote:
You say it's odd.. WHY?
Everyone judges, it's human nature to judge and it's nothing wrong with it. In my personal experience the dudes that will only play female chars aren't dudes I like playing with as things always turns sexual, weird, and creepy.Quote:
I will never understand the judgement people have over others in areas where it doesn't matter what they do at all.
It depends on what the person judging does, if someone with my opinion only talked about and complained about guys like you, I'd agree and say it's not that deep. However this is a thread about this topic so it's normal to chime in.
You're using the word "strawman" wrong here. I listed many reasons, nude mods were ONE not the ONLY.
I love it when you take a single sentence from an entire text to twist it and make fun of it. I don't know, it's normal here? it's some kind of like farming or something?
I never said that in the topic. Please read it and find out before you drop things like that.
Jesus Christ man.
You know what I mean tho. Yeah Lalas aren't in every game BUT all a lala is really is a very small young looking character. And those are in almost every game. Is it the best example.. no and I'll freely admit that. But my point was that blanket judgement is covering ALOT of people who aren't those pervs you were talking about. I'm not sitting here clanking out turn tables with my hand cause my character is some pink haired miqo.
I dunno, I might be taking too much offense to this and I'll admit to that. But it hits close to home cause as I think I mentioned I have friends who do nothing but complain that I use female characters in mmos. And they hate my reasons, which are men/dudes/guys are boring as hell to me. I'm a guy in real life and have NO interest in looking at them for prolong periods of time no matter how zoomed in or out the camera is. If I have a choice I'll always pick the more appealing option. And not because I'm some incel that can't real life. And I'm willing to bet there are alot of guys like me then the pervs who makes all of us look bad. I'm not saying they don't exist... but every time this topic comes up it's ALL people bring up. It gets old.
The part you just quoted wasn't even directed at you genius, I was responding to another poster in the thread. We get it dude, trying to comprehend people playing scantily clad characters in a fantasy video game is clearly too much for your masculinity to handle. You literally both admitted it makes you uncomfortable and referred to them as "mediocre ecchi anime characters". Given the fact that you are unable to have a discussion with someone that argues you're own point against you and instead you resort to ad hominem with stellar responses like this: "But stop bothering adults and go to the Crunchyroll forum, which surely there can give you all the content you need on a subject that has never been touched before." makes this all obvious that this is nothing more than a troll thread, one that I'm done responding to. Good luck out there kid.
Then your example falls flat, which is my point. We're talking about dudes that will only play female chars, besides Lalas are small cutesy characters that look like potatoes. There's no sexual appeal involved here and it's harder to prove if there is (not saying that's ok that's legit just as weird). A lot of people play lala (male and female) simply because they're cute and or ridiculous. Males that will only play female chars play them because of sex appeal. We're not the same.
But it wasn't as most males will literally say themselves that they play because "I don't want to stare at a dude's butt all day" "I like looking at women" "Sex sells" and "I'm not attracted to men". Are there dudes that don't play female chars for these reasons? Yeah and I already mentioned them and stated those aren't the dudes we're talking about because those type of dudes aren't that fixated on the female form and there's usually a legit reason why they're playing female the times they do. (Please keep in mind that I'm talking about dudes that will only (or 95% of the time) play female characters)Quote:
But my point was that blanket judgement...
Idk man the only time people take offense to this type of stuff is when it's partially true lmao. I've heard the "lala people are pedos irl" stuff before and I pay it no mind because I know it's simply not true. It doesn't "hit close to home" to me because there's no home for it to hit.Quote:
But it hits close to home
Also the "It's more appealing" is the same as the other excuses the males give the "I don't want to stare at male butt" it's just put more eloquently.
So let me ask you this.. why do you care what these dudes are doing? Does it matter what their -excuses- are really? This is why we can't have nice things.. everyone is too busy worried about random person who doesn't matter 1974.32 instead of just enjoying the video game.
Edit.. I'm not trying to be toxic.. but instead of trying to explain or defend anything. I just want to know why does it matter?
I guess that would depend on how you define "care".
If you're implying that, this is all I think about or spend a good chunk of my time talking about...I don't. I sorta forgot about you guys until this thread came up, which again it's normal for someone to respond to threads....
If you're implying "care" as in why do I have an opinion on them, then that's weird. Are you saying I shouldn't have opinions because you don't like them? Either way I have these opinions on your type because every one that I have met, has been down right creepy and or objectified women while trying to hide behind the "It's a fantasy game bro".
Overall it's safe to say that normal guys with normal non sexual intent don't have these problems, they aren't offended and they don't care because well...they're normal.
Protip: If you play female chars because you're that sexually driven just own it. I've seen dudes say their reason is because they like "tiddies", there's nothing that can really be argued there, is it creepy? Yep but there's nothing to argue. The dudes that do what you do "males are boring" yadda yadda, it doesn't make sense, there's too many holes, it's just BS and people can argue it. Just own what you are and what you do and if that's playing female chars because you have to look at the female form so be it.
It is in the topic I have created and makes indirect reference to what I put in it. With which it has to do with me, "genius".
Now you are talking about my masculinity with zero arguments when i said i had female characters too.
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I dont know man, this must be a hidden camera prank or something.
Where?, i didnt say that, lol.
Yeah, this lamentable spectacle you're putting on doesn't do you any good.
Have a nice trip.
My bad I wasn't clear on that point, it's normal to speak up in threads but I was talking about the taking offense part and it hitting close to home. Like I stated I've seen the reference to pedos and lalas before I may joke about it with them in a way to make them see they're crazy. Or just not argue at all, I definitely wouldn't tell them I'm offended. |
I hate when people do this, there's a societal normal and then there's like sub culture/small groups normal and even smaller. In a large group (I guess societal?), like the gaming community dudes that will only play females chars aren't seen as normal, hence why you're having this "problem". Also when most males state their reason and when it's so bad that games are even catering to it (Like Blade and Soul, that one Ariagames mmo where all the chicks had massive boobs and it was female only) because it makes them that much more money, it's safe to say it's not a blanket statement but just what it is. At this point dudes that only play female chars but not for sexual reasons (which I'm not going to lie I'm not buying that, but I don't know everyone) are outliers, the exceptions...not the rule.Quote:
And your normal isn't my normal
I never admitted anything makes me uncomfortable, I said it's weird, you can think something is weird without being uncomfortable. The only uncomfortable part about dudes like you guys are the ones that down right and openly say things that objectify women but as a woman I think I'm allowed to feel uncomfortable around that....no?
Nims It's hilarious how your logic only applies to certain group! Yet, it's even more amusing how you feelt the need to clarify why you play as a Lala.
To be fair... I'm not the best with words on forums so I'm sure my points could've been made better but since it's me.. they weren't. And I don't follow the societal normals on everything.. cause to be honest... gamers aren't normal by those standards. That includes you. You by that standard aren't any better then the people you're calling out. We're all nerds geeks and whatever else simply by being on this site playing a game named Final Fantasy. Can we get nerdier? But that's why I said my normal isn't yours and you may hate that.. but it's the truth. I rarely run into these pervs. I run into more judgemental pricks then anything else. So yeah.. I guess in that logic we're the same as everytime I see people being overly judgely I instantly scoff. I met too many people like that to not react.
I don't think I ever stated why I personally play as lala (also this is my alt, my main is an au ra :p) Also my logic only applies to certain groups of people? No I think I apply logic to all groups of people. If most people that played lala were saying disgusting things about children and that they like to play Lala because they remind them of children I'd feel the same way with them.
Yikes it's almost like I specifically, mentioned "the gaming community" in my previous posts. Also the opinion that society has on gamers and gaming culture is a different beast than dudes that only play female chars for sexual reasons, again we're not the same.
The part that I hate is when people go "There's no real normal so haha!" when there is usually a norm in every group of people.
...Because you're a male. If you want I can honestly add you to discord and show you the 3 nude requests I got in the last 24 hours by males that only play female characters for sexual reasons.... Straight males aren't going to act like pervs to another straight male lol.Quote:
I rarely run into these pervs.
Imagine spending your playtime obsessing over this.
Is this is about dressing like you're waiting for a good time, or just what is your reason for dressing your character the way you do?
Your mind defaulted to "white girl, blond haired, blue eyed" if we are talking about this game specifically and the weebs playing it you will find a ton of asian looking au ra, and anime styled characters with blue hair and Heterochromia eyed cat girls, etc. If we want to get real. Actually, I'd say I see a ton of half naked blue skinned au ra around as well.
No... There are actually a lot of people who play lalas for that reason..
I do have a bikini outfit I wear, but that's when I'm out at the beach. Got the sun hat so I don't get burned!
Because that's what I see mostly. I do not see as many differently colored chars as I see white chars, most chars are white/pale skinned. The off chance I do see a truly unique character the person behind the screen is usually female.
Going to need proof on that one for there to be "a lot" are there probably some? Won't deny it, pedos exist. But I can provide thread after thread, post after post (hell even in this thread) of males saying they play female characters for sex appeal aka "Males are boring".Quote:
No... There are actually a lot of people who play lalas for that reason..
Because female and feminine forms are more appealing to me, feel comfortable to play and are funner to dress up which is 50% of what i like to do, either modestly or otherwise. I guess I'm a creeper according to Nims standards? I'm not sure honestly with all the anecdotes and rough generalizations... but I don't know how I'm gonna explain this one to my female friends...You think they'll forgive me for liking girls and feminine things while also respecting them as people who are more than just their bodies and forms? :(
Been playing off and on since 2.0
You aren't going to find proof or even tell me where to google because there is no proof. As pedos usually stay behind the scenes they aren't going to be out in the open about liking children.
Most people that play lala's aren't pedos and there's simply no proof for that claim (pedos exist, they play chars like Elin/Lalas/Dwarves in AA, and they're awful I'm not denying their existence at all but they aren't the majority). Unlike the opposite with dudes in this thread basically admitting to such. Like, why play a female char for those reasons and then be ashamed of it? Just own up to it, if it's truly normal, it's not a problem, it's not weird and people can do whatever, just own up to it lol.
I see the true intent of this thread has surfaced..but I'm not gonna get involved in "that" discussion..
My character is dressed very close to how my mom would and she kind of looks her too. I never see her, so it's nice to have a reminder...
Oh, there is proof, and you don't even need to look that hard to find it. I just cannot link, or tell you where to go here, or I'll get banned immediately (and probably permanently). I never said a majority, I said "a lot" just like the same can be said about those guys playing females for eye candy there are "a lot" of those. There are also a lot of people who plays males for eye candy too though, especially in this game. A lot of people are into cat boys, or hrothgar, male hyur, roe, etc...
Ive had male friends play as females and dress them in those kinda ways because the alternative is looking at dude butt all day. Im just coming here to say that and nothing else lol I have no opinion.