Elemental Trials - Fire/Light

[thefinalrune]

The weathers all run in cycles according to the Vana'diel seasons is all. I myself am currently waiting for this coming Weds/Thurs for the coming summer months and more frequent fire weather so that I can get to work on my STR dagger. All it takes is a little planning and calculations and you can set aside the right time for you to get your weather/day of choice. Just because the system is time consuming doesn't mean its broken. The whole game is designed to be needlessly excessive. Would I like more frequent weather, sure. But I'm not going to hold my breath on the matter.

[Nacht]

Would you rather SE revert the change so that weather kills count as 1 again? That way it's more fair? Then you can't bitch about people suggesting you do the trials on firesday instead of fire weather.

The fire element weapons are generally better than any of the other weapons, why shouldn't they be more difficult?

[Seriha]

Just had light weather in Delfukt on firesday (1/17 in game calendar)--was on monsters in light day/weather for a staff.
Magian specs listed it as coming up on Watersday and Windsday too (1/19 and 1/20 on calendar). Enough time to run to Jueno to get bonked on the head and come back for Arcana Killer with weather up.

Congrats, you were in the right place at the right time for about 3 hours of the 8760 in a year. Now, what about the other guy who had to sleep, be at work, take care of his family, or otherwise not be near the game? He could just as easily go 8757 hours and not see the same forecast.

[RAIST]

8760 hours? That's a little off, and a bit extreme. (Game year is right at 8500 hours iirc). As finalrune just stated...it's cyclical. It's actually just over an 86 hour cycle (window should pop once every 3.6 days)--4 Windows roughly every 2 weeks.

Auroras/Stellar Glare become most prominent roughly every 3 months on a cycle, just like the real life auroras in Alaska (most prominent around the equinoxes). The timing may be off from real life, not sure (one peak is December in RL, I just spotted it in the middle of Jan, but it may have been coming off the peak)--but the pattern is similar.

Once you spot when it is taking place, you can plan for it. Having it pop regularly once every 90 or so game days is hardly hard to shoot for if you have access to some sort of vanadiel calendar app--there are tons of them on the web.

[Seriha]

And arguably one should not be forced to look up third-party sites to do something, let alone make a plan they can't even be sure they'll be able to follow. Planning your life around a video game is not A Good Thing(tm). Certain weather just needs to be more common, that's it.

[Meyi]

Do all of the Light trial targets spawn in Delkfutt?

Edit: Guess I should include Tu'Lia in here as well since Light pops there also.

[Seriha]

It may work for general kill-alls and arcana, but others like MNK hands can ask for vermin, aquans, hpmedes, and so on. I'm sure someone will pipe up with, "Why would anyone ever make those?!" when, frankly, that's none of their concern.

[Vangoh]

I dunno if anyone suggested this already regarding light weather kills but the best place to get them is doing Nyzul Isle run since light weather is always up there and tons of mobs. Unless you need to kill a specific type of mob then you're screwed and doomed to wait for the weather to pop up

[RAIST]

And arguably one should not be forced to look up third-party sites to do something, let alone make a plan they can't even be sure they'll be able to follow. Planning your life around a video game is not A Good Thing(tm). Certain weather just needs to be more common, that's it.

make mountains out of mole hills much?

No one is required to use third party tools--it can all be done by simple math. 1 Game day is 57:36 real time, 25 game days to 1 RL day. 30 game days=1 game month, 12 game months = 1 game year (360 game days in a game year).

If you log in, pull up current time (via menu or /clock command) and see it is around the first of March, and you want to hit seasonal weather known to be common starting in July, then you have around 4 game months till that time frame: (30 X 4)/25=4.8 RL days. So, 4 days later, you log in and check current time and adjust accordingly. You see it is 15-24 game days till it hits July, so you know your window is opening within the next 24 hours and you start checking for it. It's not exactly rocket science. It's just that having the calender apps or online calendars make it easier to look it up without crunching the numbers.

As for the question if the targets pop in areas with light weather--that is a moot point. Only certain areas with certain mobs get auroras/glare--changing the frequency of the weather is not going to make trials with other targets any easier to do, they would still have to do it via day kills only.

And that brings up antoher point--I have yet to see any trial that REQUIRES light weather to be present to complete it--they are DAY/WEATHER trials. The only trials restricted to weather only have at LEAST 4 weather types you can use, and have had their kill count reduced drasticly to make them easier to do. As has been stated before, in some cases you actually do better by teaming up and killing on the specific day regardless of weather. I have duoed and tripled 150 kill trials in just one or two day cycles in abyssea. Did a 250 crab via pet kill on the day in Grauberg (A) as a duo in just 4 game day cycles, may have been only 3 but we didn't catch the full day on some of them and only got about 60 kills in.

Again, weather is not REQUIRED to do these trials...all it does is make them easier than they already are--you can put them off and wait for the weather, or you can just head on out and do them by the day only. Time spent is not a factor of difficulty, it is just a matter of time until they are completed. The diffrerent requirements of take down an NM multiple times versus killing 300 EP members of the Beast family in Ice day/weather---THAT is a difference in difficulty, not the difference between if it is done with matching day or matching weather.

[thefinalrune]

Actually, it's SE's official stand point to refer players to community sites for any issue in game that's not directly the fault of a bug or technical mishap. I've had numerous GMs specifically tell me to visit community sites for information about the game.