Elemental Trials - Fire/Light

[Seriha]

Nice little attempt at a personal insult there or even that another forum's rating system somehow correlates to the quality of the game. Since you presume to speak of my own personal progress, I'll spare you my own laundry list of completed items or those in progress. After all, you know me, right?

I'm speaking on this matter because I have no desire to pass off the more excessive tediums to the players that follow in my own or the footsteps of others. The general premise of an MMO is that it is a community game that evolves. As with the general concept of humanity and progress, we have striven to better the lives of future generations, not hold them back because we had to go through some tough stuff and so, they should too. Stop trying to shovel your own personal value of some 0s and 1s you've acquired onto others you'll likely never play with and have shown restraint in talking down to. Meanwhile, I'll be glad that random people I play with in the future could be better equipped if presented issues are addressed.

[RAIST]

Currently on my 7th SMN staff, which will be my 24th elemental weapon to +2 stage in addition to several physical weapons to +1 (one to +2).

I never once specifically formed a party to do these things--I struck out solo and put up the details in /seacom (even set a macro on some jobs to setup the long ones automatically when I logged in). If I happened to run into people on the same target, we teamed up.

Like Eeek said...elemental paths aren't all that bad if you do the prep work and use your time more wisely.

[Raksha]

I've completed about 10 Magian weapons over the course of the past year, and I've had no problems getting them done.

Want to know why? Patience.

Like many other players, I'm not so naive as to believe that I can (and should!) finish any weapon within a day or two. Waiting for the right seasons/weather/days is just part of the process, and so are asinine trial requirements. It's easily surmounted by effort. A little progress here and there added together over enough time will yield a complete trial.

After two weeks, my Cure Potency staff is a little less than halfway done, and I'm perfectly OK with that. I work on it when I have time, and just like my Thunder and Ice Damage staves, I'll complete it eventually. My Daka +2 (WoE Empyrean Dagger) also took about a month to complete. No big deal. Consistent effort over time yields results, but not enough people realize this - they simply cannot look past obstacles in the short term.

I finished 2 daggers in 1 day each, i finished magian staves, solo on SCH (no GA nukes) took about a week per. I think i'm pretty damn patient. Like i said, i dont think it should be over in 1 day, but if 1 week is doable by single target nuking mobs, then i think a STR bow should be comparable WITH A PARTY OF 6-12 PEOPLE.

[RAIST]

I finished 2 daggers in 1 day each, i finished magian staves, solo on SCH (no GA nukes) took about a week per. I think i'm pretty damn patient. Like i said, i dont think it should be over in 1 day, but if 1 week is doable by single target nuking mobs, then i think a STR bow should be comparable WITH A PARTY OF 6-12 PEOPLE.

Just out of curiosity, what leg of the bow trial is holding you up?

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Archery_Trials

Some of those legs can be done just as fast (if not faster) in abyssea on firesday, possibly even not much longer in normal areas--especially if you are getting 6-12 people together.

[Raksha]

Just out of curiosity, what leg of the bow trial is holding you up?

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Archery_Trials

Some of those legs can be done just as fast (if not faster) in abyssea on firesday, possibly even not much longer in normal areas--especially if you are getting 6-12 people together.

Yeah i did all this before abyssea, and it left such bad taste in my mouth i havent bothered to try it anymore (that plus RNG sucks these days).

I gave up on manticores because i started that trial as soon as abyssea came out so everyone (including me) was interested in that and no one was partying up to kill them, and since RNG cant solo worth a damn i just gave up. But even before that flans and wamoura were a PITA also.

Probably not even gonna bother with the bow now anyway, since everyone is all "empy or gtfo" but I was considering doing STR daggers.

[RAIST]

Still see peeps teaming up for manticores on firesday in terrigan on our server. May be more the timing though--it's mostly during JP primetime. Otherwise, only really see people going after manticore in altep (A) on the weekends. I was able to cut through them pretty quick on SAM when I started my +2 StoreTP line. Got to the first 100 WSs really quick, then got sidetracked on some NM hunts...need to get in there and finish that thing one day (700 more WS to do...something for when I'm REALLY bored).

Flans are pretty easy to do in the Visions area (thienne (A) I think it was?) with a strong mage to nuke them down (or at least someone to hold them a minute, then a mage can finish them), and wamoura....grab a MNK friend to rip them up in attowha (A)(well, just about any melee really--PUP makes quick work of them too). Ripped through these things FAST doing MNK STR/ATT in Attowah (A). Killed the NM a lot too for a WAR friend for seals while we were at it. SCH, MNK, and a third melee just eats through roaches.

Fortunately you don't have to do anything special to get the kill credit--just have the item equipped and be in xp range on firesday really.

[bungiefan]

http://ff11info.com/bazaar/en/weather.php

That has a chart for what zones get what weather and how frequently during the in-game months.

[Karbuncle]

You know. Why not just allow us to Add Weather in Moblin Maze Mongers?

Problem Solved. Can only do it once per day (so its restricting in a way, Unless you have friends, or shout group, etc). Offers a chance to Solo Weather Trials when your "Season" isn't there. Can control Mob level so you can do it without syncing.

It fixes almost all the complaints, and its Limiting enough to where it wouldn't completely "Dumb down" The Day/Weather Trials.

I don't know if that has been suggested what with seeing after like, Post 3, It was nothing but back and forth insults. So eh. I don't see how anyone could possibly be jaded enough to think giving us the Ability to chose a Weather (Through Runes) in a personal Dungeon would be a bad idea or not needed.

[Bhujerba]

what ppl are asking is for rarer weathers to be at least in line with other common ones (maybe not as common as lolwind), this will make them more balanced across all trials, and if they cannot for some reason increase the rate of these rare weathers, then they can always reduce number of kill/proc, to balance them out.

[Karbuncle]

If thats in my direction, Read below! if not. Ignore it ! Or Read anyway. Its nothing mean.

MMM Will still fix that Problem. Possible to get ~30 Enemies per maze. With Weather thats 150 points in 1 maze. Team up with ~3 people on the same trial and you can finish any Weather/W/e Trial in ~1:30min.

However you can only do this once per 24 hours, So it has a Balance factor. It allows people to complete trials when they want, It would help everyone universally, every single player!

We could all Benefit from an update to MMM like that. it would give a new use for an Old Event as well.

Seems like a real simple fix. Though increasing Frequency of certain weathers i wouldn't object.