The Truly 'Elite' Player

[HFX7686]

Nothing is difficult after you've successfully completed it a couple of times. Practice makes perfect.

This is a video game, it's supposed to be enjoyable not difficult to the point of undoable by most people.

I think Abyssea has made most of the game accessible by most of the players and is a really good addition the way it is. A larger group can do everything and more skilled players (i.e. more practised players) can do things with less.

Besides, everyone who has been around the block a couple of times knows that it really doesn't matter how you level to the cap. Your skill and ability at playing the game comes from practice after you hit the cap, not things learnt on the way to the cap.

[Novax]

You could easily make a mob where you're unable to counter/shadow tank/or kite and half the population couldn't kill it.

[Randwolf]

Introducing new content that will be reasonably hard, require more than 2 jobs and where players need to pay attention - without the atma-crutch - will suffice for me. Hopefully that's what we are getting next update.

Elite players hahaha dont make me laugh. I haven't even seen too many players who who know how to play their jobs properly.

That's pretty much the idea. Get S/E to add stuff that if you can't play your job correctly, you can't beat the boss, battle, quest, bcnm, whatever. Although they will whine about it, there is no reason people shouldn't be able to play their jobs. Well, at least there shouldn't be as many as we have who can't play their jobs currently.

[Soundwave]

What the crap are you trying to create AV 2.0?

[Meyi]

Elite players are people who dedicate much time and attention to the game mechanics.

[Andylynn]

Elite players hahaha dont make me laugh. I haven't even seen too many players who who know how to play their jobs properly.

Exactly, there was no such thing as 'skill' back in the day, just time consumption and throwing bodies at NMs until they died.

[wish12oz]

The problem with your idea is that we'll end up with AV/PW before the nerf, and SE will refuse to tell us the proper way to fight them, and no one will be able to figure it out in 3+ years. Instead we'll find ways to glitch the shit and burn it down, then they'll make it so you can't do that, and maybe ban some people, like goblinfootprinting or wallofjusticing AV, or God forbid another LS spending 18 hours fighting an NM cause they don't know how to do it the way SE intended, then giving up out of exhaustion.

But other then that, making mobs that offer a challenge beyond 'zomg it spams this bad AOE' would be a welcome addition.

EDIT: Elite players are the ones who understand the game's mechanics and can play the most efficiently according to them.

[Tamoa]

Exactly, there was no such thing as 'skill' back in the day, just time consumption and throwing bodies at NMs until they died.

When you have been playing FFXI for 6 months total, saying something like this is NOT a good idea.

[wish12oz]

Exactly, there was no such thing as 'skill' back in the day, just time consumption and throwing bodies at NMs until they died.

This was only the strategy employed by terrible LS's.

[Andylynn]

When you have been playing FFXI for 6 months total, saying something like this is NOT a good idea.

Because FFXI was sooooo hard.
HNM? - Throw bodies at it.
AV? - glitch it, or throw drks at it.
Relic? - Invest more time than a part time job on it.
Difficulty? - none
Time Consuming? - Yes