[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Runespider]

I really hope they increase the level on the NQ/HQ mobs keeping the KS99 mobs the same. If for not other reason the hilarity of seeing people wipe to what used difficult first time NM fights.

[SNK]

No it is not.

Old way > new way for getting BB items chance.

If the old way is better then how is it you spent 5 years building a Yochi but couldn't be bothered to spend three damn hours a day camping NQ mobs for Black Belt? You finally decided to go after an egg after the system is now being changed. You obviously didn't think it was worth the effort to camp NQ with the drop rate being crap as it is so I'm surprised that all of a sudden it's important to you to go after it now that the spawn conditions are being made better.

[Tsuneo]

I still don't agree with it being better, but I've come to realize that these people can have fun with their obsolete gear when we're all getting shiny new gear.

[Flunklesnarkin]

ehh I've tried claiming hnm's before.. even a couple weeks ago i tried to claim adamantoise 4 days in a row..

could never manage to get claim...

I'd rather just farm up kindred seals than deal with the hassle of wasting 3 hours to not even get to fight something

Overall I could see this bringing more black belt items into the game than the old system... multiple kings each day vs one king per day... its obviously gonna increase the items hah

If the triggers are bazaarable then it wouldn't be a huge hassle to get a kings trigger if you don't have a huge stockpile of kindred seals

[Dazusu]

Love the crying in this thread. Considering 90% of you cried for force pop, you don't seem to be enjoying the result of your endeavors.

Maybe next time you'll think before you ask for something you assume will make life easier for you.

[darkShirou]

This isn't an improvement, it's a retarded kick in the balls to monks that are still struggling to get BB, and only a partial solution to the trolls who have everything handed to them on a silver platter. I can't say I didn't expect it of SE, their track record has been piss-poor forever. They didn't even bother to confirm whether BB items will still drop from the KS99's or not, which can only be assumed that it won't drop anymore. The mobs are still incredibly camped by huge groups of people, and now the zones AND the KS areas are going to be congested to hell. SE, this is a farcry from what anyone has wanted, to make matters worse you created these forums yet you don't listen to the player base or ask for their feedback before coming up with these silly and outrageous changes... Thanks SE, yet another reason for people to stop playing the game. It's no wonder you have to start merging servers again, you're chasing players away with everything you do...

[darkShirou]

Been trying to get turtle for months, and the large group of campers I have to compete daily with has never changed, only increased in size. This update is pathetic and doesn't address the issues at all.

[hiko]

you do not that people will make shouts, assuming what people will do is invalid, and what if people shout when i have ls events?

what if hnm windows are when i have LSevent ? odds to see a shout when no LSevent (and on line) are way bigger than odd of windows open

it is only an improvement if you assume people have a large store of seals, which is not fair. so i call that an invalid argument.

you take more time farming for KS and trying to get BB drop with old system then new system.

old:
you camp NM for 3 hours, good chance of egg.
you farm 99 KSNM for small chance of egg.

new:
you farm 99 KS, small chance of drop.
you get pop item
you get chance of HQ drop.
you have even smaller chance of drop.

it is a step back

or you can only camp witch is less time then farming for ksnm seals ( TIME YOU HAVE TO SPEND PLAYING, not real time of omg we can do more then one in a day)

i got more than 99 KS killing monster between windows while camping ada and not a single egg on the one I claimed!
if you camp with >2 friends just split your pt in allis of 3pts to get more ks

[Octaviane]

I'll take my chances with KS99's. I have absolutely no issues with getting KS and no issues getting the help to do the KS's, at least not now. Thank you LS Drop rates are less than 30% for BB items, but, I choose to look on the bright side. Good luck to all of us career MNK's on finishing BB.

SE has listened to all the people who have said there is no content outside of Abyssea, xp and skill-ups are improved substantially in the old areas, and farming seals for BB items or D-ring is another way to get you out of Abyssea. I am not anti-Abyssea, I love it, but on my terms and with friends of like mind. I do think however, that SE went a bit too far with it and I believe they are acutely aware of it. VoS, DA and BD will be lag-city for awhile but we will survive.

OOHHHHH! Question! I keep hearing about bandwagon MNK's, WAR's and NIN's. Are you referring to players who all of a sudden have decided to level these jobs from 1 - 90? Hence the price of Utsusemi: Ni going from 200k or less to 900k.

[darkShirou]

I'll take my chances with KS99's. I have absolutely no issues with getting KS and no issues getting the help to do the KS's, at least not now. Thank you LS Drop rates are less than 30% for BB items, but, I choose to look on the bright side. Good luck to all of us career MNK's on finishing BB.

SE has listened to all the people who have said there is no content outside of Abyssea, xp and skill-ups are improved substantially in the old areas, and farming seals for BB items or D-ring is another way to get you out of Abyssea. I am not anti-Abyssea, I love it, but on my terms and with friends of like mind. I do think however, that SE went a bit too far with it and I believe they are acutely aware of it. VoS, DA and BD will be lag-city for awhile but we will survive.

OOHHHHH! Question! I keep hearing about bandwagon MNK's, WAR's and NIN's. Are you referring to players who all of a sudden have decided to level these jobs from 1 - 90? Hence the price of Utsusemi: Ni going from 200k or less to 900k.

Yeah, the jerks that have no interest in actually playing the jobs, they're just trying to take advantage of the sudden "usefulness" of them in abyssea. The worst part is that these people get "preferential treatment" by some LS's who go ahead and hand these people everything they want/need on a silver platter, while the rest of us who actually make these jobs our careers still have to fight for everything, and still fall short of the bandwagon wannabees.