[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Ravensbane]

Um... I guess you didn't read this before you posted it...

If you read the post HQ Pop item isnt 100% they only put the disclaimer for the at least 100% on the ksnm 99's. So you can do 6 KSNM's and get 6 pops for NQ and do 6 NQ's and get 0-1 hq pops. This is how SE works dont fool yourself into thinking you'll get 100% HQ pops. I am HAPPY not concerned about the removal from NQ's because I dont think every monk deserves a black belt. I feel like the blackbelt is your right of passage and you need to earn it through gil or camping/claiming the nms yourself.


I have thought this adjustment through and the point of this is to open the nms up to the public. HNM LS's that bot claimed had access to all three nms every day of the week for years. Why is it silly to give people access to all three nm's once every three days instead of making them only have access to one of the three nms as long as they have 99 ks's and the ppl to do the ksnm. This is a system that will open up access to these nms only so long as they have ks's and that wont last long with ppl having to shell out 99 a pop for one try at an hq pop. I'd rather if they were going to open it up to the public that they'd give us similar access as the hnm bot ls's had.

"...right of passage... earned through gil..." Seriously? This is why the HNM ls's camped the things so much. Idiots that think it is EARNING the BB by paying someone to use RMT like methods to get them the items is just... ... moronic. Sorry, I stuck idiots and moronic in the same sentence... Why not make it so we can just buy the BB for 6mil from an npc, if using gil is a justified "right of passage"?

[MarkovChain]

We've already covered why this update will make it easier for MNKs to get a Black Belt, so there's no reason to go back over it.

Jesus you are an idiot.

[Eeek]

SE went back and edited the original post to clarify it, this updated is not reflected in the OP of this thread. You're just making yourself look dumb.

How so? I didn't see any posts by SE saying "Oops! That was a typo." I'm not following all their posts to see when they edit something unannounced.

[Eeek]

Nope stop copying the orginal poster of this topic you simpleton and go look at the main page it is said how i quoted it.


Infact i'll make it easier for you

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/5774

You see * At least one of these items will be dropped in every battle. In big red like that underneath Fafnir, Behemoth and Ada. Nothing like that under the hq kings so stop pretending you know more than anyone else at the moment cause you don't stupid woman.

Ninja edit on SE's part. I didn't know they typo'd and changed it.

And despite alllllllll the evidence to the contrary over the years, it's still funny to see players who assume all Mithra are women.

Can I borrow your K-Club for some skilling up? I'll give it right back when I'm done! =^.^=

[Gallus]

People actually expected that they wouldn't adjust drop rate on BB item? Let's get real. If they didn't, they'd pretty much be handing everyone a BB with a night's work. While the drop rate is kinda crappy in the KS99, and NQ kings aren't much better, you'd still be giving people 2~3 shots at an item on something that's going to be spammed like crazy. While you'd still have situations where people still get boned on their drop, you'd also have situations where back-to-back 3 items are dropping. They'd end up getting handed out like Halloween candy.

Oh, and the beauty of this update for average joes is it'll give them a very accessible source of gil. I'm sure you'll find plenty of people willing to shell out big bucks for the KS you've accrued just playing around.

[Deadvinta]

I was for this until I saw the adjusted drop rate for Black Belt items...

[Denabond]

I was for this until I saw the adjusted drop rate for Black Belt items...

As I said earlier, the reduced drop rate could be simply be down to 50%. Still a good chance for it to drop.

[Eeek]

I was for this until I saw the adjusted drop rate for Black Belt items...

A few of my friends still don't have Black Belts. Back in the day, they passed BB items all time since they never thought they'd level a melee job, much less MNK. I'll be thrilled once they get their belts, and God knows I'll blow a lot of KS to help them do it.

[Sparthos]

The butthurt around here is commendable considering that this is an improvement over the old system where at best one person would get a BB item from kings - assuming Behe/Fafnir/Adamantoise dropped items which they mostly don't.

Nothing has really changed except now you can use those thousands of KS that have piled up over the years towards KS99 where most MNKs have been getting their BB items, get an NQ king pop which could lead to an HQ pop where you end up getting the BB item. Under the old system if you didn't get the BB item @KS99 you were done.

Now you have leverage to get people to help you with BB items (hi gaiz, i got ebodies and nlegs if you come help me) and overall if you don't feel like doing this just get a Twilight Belt, +2 your MNK set, unlock Victory Smite and enjoy no huge difference between yourself and a BB MNK.

[JovialRat]

I like this idea because it pretty much destroyes those Bot Claimers herherherherher,
but.... a simplier way would have just made the KSNMs the HQ version, get rid of the NMs in the zone and just put them in the KSNM. and have w/e they dropped fall in KSNMs.
ksnm - hqNM - BB items , ad.hauberk. etc... of course the items drop is not 100%.